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Old 23rd December 2009, 23:09   #1
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This week I bought a new digicam - Canon Vixia HF S10.

The issue is...
I have bought this digicam for my father in law who is not computer savvy. I was looking for a convenient option that he can use to archive and store the videos that he will record and found this divice DW-100 DVD Burner. It can be attached to the camcorder to burn discs. I think this is a great solution who doesn't wants to do any editing and would hate to use a computer.

This burner can only use a regular DVD as a media to record. The camcorder records in AVCHD format and the DVD burned from it can be played in a regular Blue Ray player that supports this feature. But there's a small question that I have. Burning HD video to a regular DVD - is it a good idea? Will it lose any details? I am asking this as I am novice to anything HD and I understand that Blue Ray discs use different burning format. Am I confusing two things - recording and burning formats?

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Old 23rd December 2009, 23:29   #2
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I use the same digicam (I have had it for over a year now). Please note that the DVD burner does not convert AVCHD to standard DVD only HD DVD so you will also need to get HD DVD discs to be used with this burner and a HD DVD player to playback the same discs.

Other PC based options are Ulead VideoStudio 11 plis, Pinnacle Studio 12, Nero Vision 9or Sony Vegas. These softwars allow you to burn SD or HD discs (to burn HD discs you need a suitable burner). VideoSutdio need a few upgrades that need to be downloaded from Ulead after installing. Nero 9 will work with the HF10 or HF100 but not with the HF11 or HF20 as they record at daa rates higher than 17Mbps.

If you need a simple converter without any need to edit the video footage then something like this can do too AVCHD Converter, Best AVCHD Video Converter Free Download I have not tried this software (I use Ulead VideoStudio) though so cannot offer any personal experience.

However if he purely wants the DVD burner to archive the video from the SD card then the DVD burner is a good tool and is simple to use.
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navin, little bit of snag here, in the war of HD-DVD backed by toshiba and Blueray supported by rest especially sony . Toshiba lost badly and HD-DVD format is no longer in existence except for toshiba people who may have kept it as memorabilia. \

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Relax man AVCHD is 100% compatble with blueray, which is the current common format for HD content.

Does this also comes with pixela like other canon, if yes the software is pretty straight forward
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Thanks Navin and SirAlec

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Please note that the DVD burner does not convert AVCHD to standard DVD only HD DVD so you will also need to get HD DVD discs to be used with this burner and a HD DVD player to playback the same discs.
Correct, no conversion. But the digicam has an option to record in standart format.

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so you will also need to get HD DVD discs to be used with this burner and a HD DVD player to playback the same discs.
This is where my dilemma originates. The DW-100 burner only records standard DVD format. No HD DVD or Blue Ray discs. If I burn AVCHD on a standard DVD - are their any odds? As I asked in my original question - am I confusing two different formats - recording format and burning format?



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Does this also comes with pixela like other canon, if yes the software is pretty straight forward
It comes with a bunch of software but as I mentioned in my earlier post, I want a simple non computer/laptop based solution and that's how I stumbled upon DW-100
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dw100 is practical and wight for your purpose . you might want to check other models. one is also made by sony , dunno the model number.
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Correct, no conversion. But the digicam has an option to record in standart format.

This is where my dilemma originates. The DW-100 burner only records standard DVD format.
Standard Definition is not a recording option with the HF-10. WHy would you use a HD video camera to record is SD anyway.

The DW-100 will archive your video in AVCHD format for playbackon a machine like a PS3.

[quote=SirAlec;1650221
Toshiba lost badly and HD-DVD format is no longer in existence except for toshiba people who may have kept it as memorabilia.

Relax man AVCHD is 100% compatble with blueray, which is the current common format for HD content.[/QUOTE]

Pixela does not convert AVCHD to HD DVD.

Oh we know Bluray won but HD DVD is still a good format.
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Standard Definition is not a recording option with the HF-10.
I had misunderstood that some of the lower bit rate options are standard definition. Thanks for enlightening me. I went back to the manual and yes all the different recording options record in AVCHD.

This is interesting. Although the compression and encoding is high-def but in some of the lower bit rate options, the video quality may be sub par to standard definition. I may be wrong though.


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dw100 is practical and wight for your purpose . you might want to check other models. one is also made by sony , dunno the model number.
My research is saying that if one has to record from the digicam, the only burners compatible are the provided by the same company and sold as compatible models. The sony one is for Sony digicam.

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I just read in the manual that I cannot use DW-100 to burn DVDs if I use the MXP setting (the option that lets you record at 24 mbps) to record my videos. That's a limitation - you can only burn videos recorded upto 17 mbps .

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I had misunderstood that some of the lower bit rate options are standard definition.

I just read in the manual that I cannot use DW-100 to burn DVDs if I use the MXP setting (the option that lets you record at 24 mbps) to record my videos. That's a limitation - you can only burn videos recorded upto 17 mbps .
The HF10/100 do not have MXP only FXP (17Mbps). the HF11/20 have MXP.
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The HF10/100 do not have MXP only FXP (17Mbps). the HF11/20 have MXP.
Mine is HF S10 and it has MXP. From what I undersand, the HF S10 models have a bigger CMOS sensor, a HD lens, and the latest image processor.

However I am now worried about another thing. This model records in NTSC. When I pair it with DW-100, I am sure the disc written will be a NTSC DVD. I am only getting more n more confused about this whole thing. Please help me answering followign questions...

1. The camacorder has component out (3 video and 2 audio cables) to connect to television. Does it really matter - because my understanding is NTSC/PAL should only matter when using composite or s-video inputs. If my understanding is correct, there should not be any issues in playing back from the camcorder on a high def tv.

2. Will the blue ray players available in India play a NTSC DVD?

3. Do blue ray players use component in for the hi def tv?

Thanks very much for your help.
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