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Old 23rd July 2008, 19:26   #541
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A regular amp is an integrated amp(for stereo) or receiver(for multi-channel). In a Pre - Power setup, the preamplifier and power amplifier are housed in separate chassis. In the extreme case one can have monoblock power amplifiers for each individual channel.

The preamplifier essentially allows you to switch between various inputs/sources for audio and also performs the job of initial voltage amplification (typically 12dB-24dB) and feeds this signal to the power amplifier.

The job of the power amplifier is simple... take the input of the preamp and perform current amplification to drive the speakers.
Thanks indeed!Chaos,is it like dual mono?Seprate power supplies n etc....
from your explaination i think for customer is Budget, integrated is the way to go,because the Pre+power setup might be way way costlier.
Anyviews on Norge amps?
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In the extreme case one can have monoblock power amplifiers for each individual channel.
Thanks indeed!Chaos,is it like dual mono?Seprate power supplies n etc....
yes, in an ideal dual mono setup, it will be like having two monoblocks in one enclosure , but in the real world some common elements will be there
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from your explaination i think for customer is Budget, integrated is the way to go,because the Pre+power setup might be way way costlier.
Yes, integrated amps make more sense for entry level
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Can't pair them with anything. No money for such high end. A friend mentioned their names and described them as the best thing in amps, so got curious about it. Thanks for the explanation. I would probably never buy one such thing given so many other options.

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VTL is supposed to be very high end and very serious two channel audio. They are an all tube design and hence very very expensive to purchase and also to maintain as power tubes will need replacement every 1000-2000 hours. I've never heard them personally but I've only read good things about them.

What are you planning to pair them with?
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yes, in an ideal dual mono setup, it will be like having two monoblocks in one enclosure , but in the real world some common elements will be there
Yes, integrated amps make more sense for entry level
In an ideal monoblock setup, each channel is housed in a separate chassis. It has its own power supply, its own filtering, own circuitry completely isolated from the other channel. Dual mono designs house two power supplies in the same chassis and typically have a single PCB for both channels. It is a compromise compared to a true monoblock.

Pre+Power is typically more expensive than an integrated but there are exceptions like Accuphase. They have some seriously solid integrateds and some folks say that they are so overbuilt, you'd die before the amp dies .

Norge is absolute basic entry level. It is decent for the price you pay but if you have the budget, there are way more options.

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Guys,

I do not have Denons, Yamaha, Bose etc...

But according me I have one of good system available in market that is not so costly but sound quality is awesome.

My System is Panasonic SC VK950 (10000 Watts PMPO) 880 watt RMS, 5.2 channel, 5 DVD changers, twin cassette deck (although useless), FM, Auxiliarry in. It has total 6 sub woofers in it. Two each in two subwoofer box and one each in FR and FL speakers.

FL Speakers have tweeter, mid range and subwoofer. Centre have two midrange and one tweeter (high frequency). RL and RR have same specification as of centre but dimensions are different. When I see some hollywood movie in this system, my complete building shakes like anything.

However I must agree it is not comparable with specialist home theaters, but it is not a way less around. I enjoy it completely. When I purchased its price was 32,700 Rupees from Panasonic brand shop.

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When I see some hollywood movie in this system, my complete building shakes like anything.
hahaha. Quite a scene that must be. You should actually run up and down the stairs screaming, "Earthquake, Earthquake."

Thats a few too many subwoofers (and in too many varying sizes) for my taste, but great to hear you like it.
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Has anybody tried Onkyo LS-V501 all in one system??
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hahaha. Quite a scene that must be. You should actually run up and down the stairs screaming, "Earthquake, Earthquake."

Thats a few too many subwoofers (and in too many varying sizes) for my taste, but great to hear you like it.

Haha, Yes but I did do some over statement but one old uncle who is staying in ground floor complained me that his all open doors were vibrating when I was watching movie 88 minutes of Al Pachino ( This is first DTS DVD I got in the market). It is because of low frequency sound. I stay in third floor.
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That system will definitely go Boom boom boom boom . But in terms of sound quality.... god help !
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I had a Sony system RV7 that looked like that or perhaps a little less. As expected of Sony, I had to get the lens changed every 9-12 months. Of course the lens replacement also went off after 4-5 months, but because of inertia, it was changed after 9-12 mths. Thank God, I have vowed off Sony forever, at least in audio.
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My current setup is a Denon DHT-487DV, though it's an HTIB the sound quality is good and I'm pretty satisfied with it's performance. It has got good reviews all over and some even called it as a 'Component in the Box'. There is a scope for upgrade and I'm looking to start with the front speakers in few months time.

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Speakers: 6-ohms, 2-way
Number of speakers: 5 plus powered subwoofer
Watts per channel: 5 x 75/receiver, 100/subwoofer
Features: component DVD player with HDMI output, full featured A/V component receiver
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That system will definitely go Boom boom boom boom . But in terms of sound quality.... god help !

Do you mean that spending too much money will buy you sound quality ?

Also, I request to you, do listen/experience before comment anywhere. I have listen to Yamaha, Denon, Bose, etc... I don't think there is too much difference in Sound Quality. Yes aesthetically they are far more better than this Panasonic system and will best suit for living room.

Also how do you define Sound Quality ? Any specific measurement parameter ?

You are most invited at my home to see and listen and judge the sound quality.
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Do you mean that spending too much money will buy you sound quality ?

Also, I request to you, do listen/experience before comment anywhere. I have listen to Yamaha, Denon, Bose, etc... I don't think there is too much difference in Sound Quality. Yes aesthetically they are far more better than this Panasonic system and will best suit for living room.

Also how do you define Sound Quality ? Any specific measurement parameter ?

You are most invited at my home to see and listen and judge the sound quality.
Sure I'd love to come over and listen... however as long as you promise to come over to my place first . I have nothing against you or your purchase... its the fact that I typically can't stand mass market audio.

How do you measure sound quality? Interesting... I suggest you read the subjectivist vs objectivist debate.

Audio quality measurement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Audio equipment testing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I had a Sony system RV7 that looked like that or perhaps a little less. As expected of Sony, I had to get the lens changed every 9-12 months. Of course the lens replacement also went off after 4-5 months, but because of inertia, it was changed after 9-12 mths. Thank God, I have vowed off Sony forever, at least in audio.
Thats very strange. I have had the RV7 for over 4 years now and my house in del had a penchant for accumulating lotts of dust so much so that the system always had a layer of dust on it. My fav way of cleaning the dust from the speakers was to play it on full volume every few days .It has also survived 3 relocations del -blr, blr- del, del - blr. But It still performs like the way it used to. Havent spent a single penny on it till now.

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chaos you're being too mean. Let the poor guy be happy with his audio setup.

Besides , what if he is unable to discern the difference
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