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Old 21st November 2013, 19:24   #17026
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The trouble is with all these steps, the phone typically has no advantage over a smart feature phone like the Nokia Asha. The whole point of getting a smart phone is to be able to use it without having to keep turning things on and off.
Exactly.

You said it man. It is really pointless to do all these things- owning a phone should add fun and joy in your life, not become a chore to sort out every 15 mins.
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Old 21st November 2013, 20:00   #17027
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The trouble is with all these steps, the phone typically has no advantage over a smart feature phone like the Nokia Asha. The whole point of getting a smart phone is to be able to use it without having to keep turning things on and off.
Actually it has. If you desire, it can do all this on-off jugglery quietly in the background without you moving a finger. Features phone can't do that. Atleast yet.
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I personally have been on a quest for the best battery life, even since I first got the nexus one and was horrified to find it lasted barely half a day (less if it was on 3g, which was a royal pain).
I then went to my blackberry curve and then the bold 9780. They had great battery life (on 2G) but we're incredibly slow.
Battery life is also a function of usage pattern. For someone who uses the phone for his/her music/video needs extensively and/or wants instant push notification for everything - a mail, a tweet to a like, battery life would obviously be less.

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I've also experimented with tons of Roms on the nexus one, the HTC sensation xe and the HTC One but despite custom kernels and cpu governors, I couldn't get them to work and palmed them off to my brother.
Under volting and under clocking worked wonders for me.

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The point I'm making is that across the board, for some reason, manufacturers don't want to focus on battery life which I think is the Achilles Heel of the smartphone.
True that. I wonder what stops them from putting more powerful batteries. Maybe the form factor and space constraint?

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While Google promised a better battery life with KitKat, my colleague who just got the nexus 5 this week from the US can barely get 11 hours from his phone. I think that's a fail.
Oh come on sir, it's just a week old phone, let the guy enjoy it a little. Talk to him about the battery life after a month or so.

But yes, I don't see any significant increase in battery life on my Nexus after installing KitKat. About the same as 4.3. With a bigger battery on 5, it might still be an improvement though.

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Old 21st November 2013, 20:17   #17028
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@dry ice. I get your point sir. But here's a screenshot of what my usage is like on my phone. I get approximately 700 emails a day on my work email. I'm obsessive compulsive and so I read every single one. I read a lot of forums on my phone including teambhp. I listen to music and use gps to track my cycle rides in the morning and evening and play music on my bluetooth earphones at that time, as well as use noom coach to pace myself while bicycling. In addition to that, I make about an hour of telephone calls.

I need to be able to do all this before I make it home because I am always in and out of places and don't want to be walking around looking for a charger when I go to meetings or press conferences.

Yes. It's excessive but I think that's me. I leave Wifi, bluetooth, gps turned on at all hours, and I'm always on 3G and have my screen at 50 percent auto brightness. I have 6 accounts set up on sync, including Facebook, Twitter, exchange, Gmail, and soundcloud (oh what the hell. The last account is whatsapp)


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The above is how the g2 held up. For me, if a phone can get me through the day doing all that, then I am a happy camper..
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The point I'm making is that across the board, for some reason, manufacturers don't want to focus on battery life which I think is the Achilles Heel of the smartphone.
I guess going forward, we will see development on the battery front
Part of the reason is, while the phones are electronic devices, the battery is a chemical device. It is difficult to expect same kind of development speed between these. The battery technology hasn't changed much in years' and I am not talking just about phone batteries but overall battery technology. The Li-Ion or Li-Poly are very recent technologies, I believe and still it hasn't improved the performance drastically.
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BTW can you use LG G2's battery in Nexus 5? Since the hardware is practically the same? If yes then that should make the Nexus last a lot longer.
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Hi All,

I am facing a problem with my note for the last couple of days.whenever i update the apps it says memory full.

i tried deleting the photographs but then realised that it was the device memory and i didnt know how to clear it.

attaching the screeshot for your reference,please let me know how to get rid of this problem
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Hi All,

I am facing a problem with my note for the last couple of days.whenever i update the apps it says memory full.

i tried deleting the photographs but then realised that it was the device memory and i didnt know how to clear it.

attaching the screeshot for your reference,please let me know how to get rid of this problem
You can free up heaps of storage space by deleting all the log files in the device memory. Just dial *#9900# on the phone and select option 2 “Delete dumpstate/logcat” in the prompted menu. It's not necessary to root your phone either.
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Old 21st November 2013, 22:10   #17033
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BTW can you use LG G2's battery in Nexus 5? Since the hardware is practically the same? If yes then that should make the Nexus last a lot longer.
I doubt. G2 has 700mAh 'extra'. There ought to be some physical difference. Plus both have non removable batteries. Unless you are a hands-on guy with proper tools and expertise, it will not be easy.
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BTW can you use LG G2's battery in Nexus 5? Since the hardware is practically the same? If yes then that should make the Nexus last a lot longer.
Nexus 5 and LG G2's hardware are far from practically same. All that's common between the two is the Snapdragon 800 processor and probably the OIS module in the camera.
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I doubt. G2 has 700mAh 'extra'. There ought to be some physical difference. Plus both have non removable batteries. Unless you are a hands-on guy with proper tools and expertise, it will not be easy.
Nope. Although that would have been awesome. Even if that weren't possible, a Google play edition would have been brilliant. The g2 has different internals. More here:
http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/1...ery+from+LG+G2
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I noticed that Google Play Services results in a major battery drain. Any solutions ?
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I noticed that Google Play Services results in a major battery drain. Any solutions ?
Something seems to be going on with Google Play Services since last couple of days. Everyone is seeing high battery usage by it.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11...ery-hog-today/
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Its taken 23 days in arriving.. 4.4 Kitkat was pushed to my Nexus 4 last night
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Thankfully the update isn't too heavy and didn't make any difference to the memory available..
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Replaced message app with Hangouts manually. It seems fine for SMS too.
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Very interesting. Although markets tend not to be impressed by people who go and come --- they might come and go!
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they have a trick up their sleeve. That is great specs , latest Android at a reasonable cost.
Another first from Motorola... root your phone without voiding the warranty.

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/201...nnouncing.html

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Requesting an unlock code will no longer void the device’s warranty
We will start posting return-to-factory software images

For customers who have previously purchased a 2012 or 2013 Developer Edition device directly from Motorola and who have requested a bootloader unlock code, we will reinstate the warranty effective from the date of original purchase.
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The trouble is with all these steps, the phone typically has no advantage over a smart feature phone like the Nokia Asha. The whole point of getting a smart phone is to be able to use it without having to keep turning things on and off.
I wholeheartedly agree to your point! But till the time manufacturers come up with phones that have batteries that won't induce "battery drainout anxiety", why not use Tasker to program your phone to do all these things to save battery (and much, much more)?


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Something seems to be going on with Google Play Services since last couple of days. Everyone is seeing high battery usage by it.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11...ery-hog-today/
Thanks, so it's not just me who had the issue!

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