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View Poll Results: MNP: Will you switch operators ?
Yes, I will definitely switch. I think there is a better service provider available in the market. 148 34.91%
Nopes, I am happy with my mobile operator so won't switch. 105 24.76%
No, I will not switch. I am not happy with my operator but I know the others are equally bad. 83 19.58%
Not Sure: Will wait and watch. 88 20.75%
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Old 2nd September 2016, 10:17   #481
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I am fed up of rationing data on my airtel postpaid. The prepaid data plan that is out now is very interesting and well thought out. I calculated that if I use 3Gb a month for a year, the prepaid data cost will work out to ~275 a month or 125 per GB. I may just switch to prepaid soon.
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Old 2nd September 2016, 10:42   #482
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On Jio, they will keep the the network capacity same for some time even with added customers. I will wait for few months to see if they keep delivering on data speeds. Giving cheap data rates without much speed is useless.
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I read a report that currently, the Jio SIM works on a set of specific cellphone models only, which are approved by Jio. Is it true? My friend was using his SIM on his Mi5 phone which isn't covered by Jio. So how does it work?

I use an iPhone 5s and as much as I want to experience the Jio, I am not ready to get another just for that SIM. Can anyone shed some more light on this?
There are multiple versions out there in the sense that, the invite which I got from JIO states I need to surely buy a LYF Smartphone and the cheapest is around 2999. I guess this is if you want to avail the preview offer which is "everything free till Dec 31st".

However, if you look deeper into it, you are paying almost 1000 per month to have free internet and calls which I dont think is a good option in anyway.

Now, I visited their website to check if other phones are also eligible for the preview offer but the list is limited. Here is a link to it
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Old 2nd September 2016, 12:09   #484
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I am not looking to switch from my current operator due to the Jio launch. I would rather wait for my current operator to drop tariff rates and take advantage of that rather than moving to Jio.

Just wanted to check - Are Jio's plans that good?
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Old 2nd September 2016, 13:47   #485
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Actually, I do not mind paying similar or slightly higher fares but the service levels have got to improve.

The voice and network quality on Airtel & Vodafone is pathetic now and I will definitely consider switching if the voice quality to all networks is good.
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Old 2nd September 2016, 23:32   #487
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Here is more on their data rates.
Also Rs. 250 per GB would be charged after exhausting the data balance but to avoid that you can top up your data balance. These top-ups will come into play after exhausting the data allowance on their existing plans. Users can get add on data packs starting at Rs 151, which gives 1GB of 4G LTE data and 1GB of JioNet Wi-Fi, similarly, there are other top-up packs priced between Rs 251 to Rs 5,000, offering between 2GB to 75GB of 4G LTE data, and the same amount of JioNet Wi-Fi data. In other words, if you do the math, even in top up plans, it is only Rs 50/GB if you add both 4G LTE and Wi-Fi data allowance and that too only for plans that are priced higher. The entry-level top up plans are more expensive that Rs 50/GB.
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Old 3rd September 2016, 02:13   #488
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I am using JIO from past week or so. The Free calls are showing that only 15 minutes or so remaining. While the data speed in suburban town like Muvattupuzha is restricted at 7-8mbps which is comparable to Idea. They are migrating pre-launch users also to the welcome offer. Don't know what it really means.
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I am already on Jio Preview Offer, what is the impact on my plan? Will I not get the unlimited offer any more?

If you are an existing Jio Preview Offer customer, you will be automatically migrated to the Free Welcome Offer on 05th Sept, 2016. As a part of this Offer, you will continue to enjoy unlimited HD voice & video calling, unlimited SMS, high-speed data and access to a host of Jio premium apps till 31st Dec, 2016.
https://www.jio.com/preview/partner
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Old 3rd September 2016, 08:53   #489
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I have copied this from a Facebook group. Seems to be quite a logical analysis.

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RELIANCE JIO ... An ANALYSIS!!!

This came from a friend ..

Interesting input from an acquaintance - those with a head for calculations, please indulge yourselves.

Reliance Jio: The Champion of Revolutionary Digital India or Evolutionary Analog India?

I must admit that I was euphoric over the Reliance Jio launch today morning. Also, thanks to the media hype, I initially believed that it was a "revolutionary" service for data users like me who are glued to the internet all the time. But as the hours passed, reality began to sink in.
After some quick analysis, I have come to the conclusion that it is not for data users lke me who are constantly browsing the internet, but instead, it is actually for those who are constantly chattering on phone. i.e It is not for data (Digital India), but for voice (Analog India).

Let me take up some of the hyped up highlights & try to explain why it does not convince me to make a switch.

1) First & foremost, it is portrayed as the messiah for data users. All the news channels have been highlighting that the data charges on Reliance Jio is as low as Rs 50/GB. This is actually highly misleading because that low rate of Rs 50/GB would be applicable only when you buy the high end monthly pack of Rs 4,999 !! In that pack, you get around 75 GB which roughly translates to Rs 50/GB. But in a normal pack like Rs 499 per month, you get only 4 GB, which translates to around Rs 100/GB. And if you consider the Rs 19 pack which gives 100 MB, it translates to around Rs 190/GB.

2) In the entry level package of Rs 149 per month, although you get unlimited voice calls (which is highly appreciated), you get only 300 MB of data. So, it is definitely not for a data user like me, but for someone who hardly uses internet, and wants unlimited calling facility.

3) The Rs 19/day pack is marketed as the entry level chota pack which can cater to casual users who want to browse internet occasionally on a need basis. But there is nothing revolutionary about it because it offers only 100 MB for Rs 19 & the validity is 1 day. Suppose I am on the Rs 149/month pack and I exhaust my 300 MB within few days and one fine day I want to book an Ola cab or watch a 1 min YouTube video, then I must shell out a minimum of Rs 19. (There is no pack smaller than that). But if I am on Airtel/Idea/Vodafone, I can go for their Rs 9 pack and get 35 MB. i.e Instead of spending Rs 19 on Reliance Jio to book an Ola cab, I can recharge Rs 9 on Airtel & get the work done. Also, it is to be noted that Airtel/Idea offer 100 MB of 4G data for Rs 24 which has a validity of 3 days, which I feel is much better than Jio's 100 MB of 4G data for Rs 19 which has a validity of just 1 day.

4) As explained above, the Rs 149/month pack makes no sense for data users because it gives only 300 MB. The next pack is the Rs 499/month pack which has 4 GB of data (along with the default unlimited calling feature). Since unlimited calling is available in both the Rs 149 pack as well as Rs 499 pack, then the only difference is that the 499 pack gives you additional 3.7 GB of data at an additional cost of Rs 350.
=> Rs 350 for 3.7 GB? Sorry, not convincing. Your own brother Anil Ambani & his competiors been offering 5-10 GB of data for less than Rs 400. Yes, I agree that while they are offering 3G, you are offering 4G, but at the end of the day, the total data remains the same. I mean, the incentive is not good enough to call your Rs 499 plan a "revolutionary"

5) Let me take up the next pack. Rs 999. I get 10 GB of data (along with the default unlimited calling feature).
Compared to the Rs 149 pack which already has unlimited calling feature, what I get in this pack is effectively 9.7 GB of data for Rs 850.
I am not impressed because if I spend a little extra, I can get unlimited 3G from BSNL. Yes, Unlimited 3G by BSNL for Rs 1099.
Check this:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/…...…/53858131.cms

6) Now that I have seen how even the Rs 999 pack fails to impress me, due to much better offering from BSNL. Why should I pay Rs 999 to Reliance for 10 GB data, when BSNL is offering me unlimited data for
Rs 1099?

What is my conclusion finally?
For a data user, Reliance Jio is not impressive. If the usage is more than 1 GB per month, then the Rs 149 pack should not even be considered because it has only 300 MB. In the next pack, Jio offers 4 GB data for Rs 499 which is not revolutionary, but since it says night time is unlimited, I think it can be called "evolutionary". But still that is not such a great incentive to switch.
In the next plan which costs Rs 999, it offers only 10 GB, whereas BSNL gives me unlimited data for almost the same price.

That's about my personal requirements.
Now let's look at the overall benefit for the masses.

The only major advantage for the masses is the unlimited voice calling which can be availed for Rs 149 per month. In today's scenario, most of the mobile users, especially among the working class, are actually prepaid users with free lifetime validity connections, upon which they regularly recharge Rs 20-30 which usually lasts for almost a month for them. For example, I personally know many taxi drivers, vegetable vendors, mechanics etc who hardly make outgoing calls. Even if they make an outgoing call, it would not last for more than a minute. Such people tend to use only Rs 30-50 talktime per month, for which only Rs 50 top-up recharge is sufficient. (Such recharges have unlimited validity and they usually prolong it for 2 months as well).
Now, if they must go for Jio just because the free voice calling is tempting, then it means they must shell out Rs 149, which lapses after 28 days (It has 28 days validity), after which they must again recharge Rs 149 and so on. For someone who is used to topup of Rs 20-30 per month (and that too on a need basis), such a mandatory cost of Rs 149/month sounds very expensive. That translates to around 149*12 = Rs 1800 per annum, compared to their existing habit of regular topups which might come up to a total of just 20*12 = Rs 240 per annum which is sufficient for their practical purposes.
That's a whopping 6 times higher, just for unlimited voice calling, whether you really do unlimited calling or not.

(Some people might say that Rs 149 per month is very cheap, but let's not forget that we are a nation where every rupee matters. We are a nation which does not give up even LPG subsidy so easily because even Rs 100 is important. So, the logic of "Rs 149 per month is nothing" might hold good for urban elite but not for rest of India).

So, as we can see, the only upside is unlimited voice, and not data. Even the unlimited voice for Rs 149 sounds high for the majority who are happy with their Rs 20-30 topup once in every 20-30 days.

Hence, it is difficult to categorize Reliance Jio as a revolutionary data service, but it can be a good voice service if one is into chattering regularly for 1 hour outgoing call every day.

Now that we have analyzed that the Jio plans are not revolutionary, can we atleast call it evolutionary? Not really. By claiming itself as a path for Digital India & provide internet to the masses, it might actually end up becoming popular only for its unlimited voice, and since voice services are considered "backward" (corollary of the rhetoric "data services are the future"), it is certainly not evolutionary. Mukesh Ambani says he wants Indians to "move up" to data, and expects Jio services to be used mainly for data, but it might eventually be used mainly for voice.

This way, Jio, according to my analysis is chalking out the vision of "Analog India" (voice), but not "Digital India" (data).
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Am on jio preview. 3 to 4mbps download and 1mbps upload. Not really impressive
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Am on jio preview. 3 to 4mbps download and 1mbps upload. Not really impressive
I thought the preview was going to start only from Sept 5th? Atleast thats what the email I got says
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I have copied this from a Facebook group. Seems to be quite a logical analysis.
Thank you very much. I am clear this is not for me. I top up an aircel sim for prepaid calls, Rs1,000, and it can last me six months or more, and I pay Rs.265 to Artel for 28-days-validity 3G/4G, and usually only use a few hundred Mb.

However, my wife's postpaid mobile bill for talking is often over Rs.800, so Jio might be good for her.

I've had my mobile number for over ten years (and I get Rs0.10 SMSs which is almost as good as free) and i would not want to shift it unless I was very sure.
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I have copied this from a Facebook group. Seems to be quite a logical analysis.
I found it illogical. He has written that only taking Data into account and totally ignored the cost saved by unlimited free calling. For any comparison between rivals, you need to assess the final monthly bill and not just the bill for data services. The final bill will be much less in Jio.
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I found it illogical. He has written that only taking Data into account and totally ignored the cost saved by unlimited free calling.
I think he has made it clear that it's good if you only use calling. But everyone also consumes data.

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For any comparison between rivals, you need to assess the final monthly bill and not just the bill for data services. The final bill will be much less in Jio.
Use more than 300 mb data (I think everyone uses more than that) and you need to opt for at least the 499 plan.
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I think he has made it clear that it's good if you only use calling. But everyone also consumes data.

Use more than 300 mb data (I think everyone uses more than that) and you need to opt for at least the 499 plan.
But don't you need to make calls too in your daily usage? And each call is charged. So technically that compensates for the other parameter. Also 1GB data will be sufficient for most users. I am more concerned about the network. If the calls will keep dropping or voice clarity is not good then there is no point.

Like someone else mentioned above, I would too rather wait for Airtel to come out with more offers to retain its customers.
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