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Old 9th November 2016, 22:21   #1846
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Thanks for the suggestion and it looks like a great camera but I am looking for something in the price range of Sony A6000. This is not really going to be my main camera as I am not looking to replace my 70D, so hard to justify spending more than a grand in USD on another camera.
I got my e-m5 mkii refurb for 575$ 6 months ago. I only suggested this option because there is good change the camera will be on sale this thanksgiving. The E-M10 is also smaller and cheaper. Also take a look at the E-P5 and Panasonic GM1. Not driving you away from the A6000 but the lens options are great for the m4/3 making up for the smaller sensor.
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Old 10th November 2016, 01:37   #1847
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For those that like to see some results of the new AF at work:

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/...auto_focusing/
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For those that like to see some results of the new AF at work:

http://www.photographyblog.com/news/...auto_focusing/
Seems very good for a mirrorless. Though the flight path could be anticipated, and the bird was large and not that fast while spanning that distance. But what matters is retention of focus on the head/eye, which the camera seemed to do very well.

Cross posting from another thread. This one shot with a poor Nikon with a slow f/5.6 lens (sight, what wouldn't I give for a 400mm f/2.8E), on an overcast day (that is why the high ISO to get a fast enough shutter speed).
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3 shot sequence of red-rumped swallows. You would know how fast and unpredictably they move. The entire sequence lasted for 0.5 seconds - from shot 1 to shot 3. I was using auto ISO, the first two were taken at ISO 10000, the last at ISO 9000 (that shot was a little darker too).

Waiting. Coming.
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Feeding time!
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Old 11th November 2016, 09:42   #1849
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2016 Roundup: Interchangeable Lens Cameras $900-1200

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/201...as-900-1200/12

Panasonic G85 is the choice overall, especially for those who also shoot video. Didn't know that it was that good, never researched Panasonic. Wonder why Sony a6300 didn't win.
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2016 Roundup: Interchangeable Lens Cameras $900-1200

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/201...as-900-1200/12

Panasonic G85 is the choice overall, especially for those who also shoot video. Didn't know that it was that good, never researched Panasonic. Wonder why Sony a6300 didn't win.
The Panasonic GH4 was holding the flag for a long time. It's a favorite among video shooters. I've seen many use canon lenses with the famous metabones adapter.

BTW here's some pics that I took with the EM5 MKII with the metabones adapter and canon lens combo.. I returned the adapter because AF was not that accurate and there was a lot purple fringing when used with the canon 24-70 f2.8 II. The 3rd pic is with the Olympus 45mm f1.8. The canon performs best with the FF body but comparing just for kicks in similar apertures.

Canon 85mm f1.2 II L - EXIF - f1.8, 1/40th sec, ISO 640
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canon 85mm f1.2 II L - EXIF - f1.8, 1/60th sec, ISO 640
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Olympus 45mm f1.8 - EXIF - f1.8, 1/1250 sec, ISO 2500
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Wonder why Sony a6300 didn't win.
The a6000 won the 500-900 category
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/201...ameras-500-900
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The a6000 won the 500-900 category
For the price point it surely is a nice camera. I got one as second body and also some thing which can be shoved into a bag at a moment's notice. Add that with a rather thin 16-50 is for travel. And yes the Sony 50mm prime is a also a brilliant lens to have.
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For the price point it surely is a nice camera. I got one as second body and also some thing which can be shoved into a bag at a moment's notice. Add that with a rather thin 16-50 is for travel. And yes the Sony 50mm prime is a also a brilliant lens to have.
Exactly the purpose I have in mind for this camera. I was thinking of getting just the body and the sigma 30mm to go with it. The Sony prime lenses are too expensive and as per reviews the Sigma 30mm is well worth the money. But it seems Sony is going to offer the body with 16-50 lens for just $550!
https://www.bfads.net/stores/sony-st...-friday/page-1
For another $150, you get the 55-210mm as well! But given that my existing set of zoom lenses are heavily under utilized, I think I will stick with the 16-50 kit lens.
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Exactly the purpose I have in mind for this camera. I was thinking of getting just the body and the sigma 30mm to go with it. The Sony prime lenses are too expensive and as per reviews the Sigma 30mm is well worth the money. But it seems Sony is going to offer the body with 16-50 lens for just $550!
I have decided against getting a zoom for this camera. It then defeats the purpose of carrying it in pouch. I have left the zooms for Canon.

The 50mm is superb for portraits and is very sharp. When compared to Canons and Nikons its costly no doubt. But it's not too costly to give it a miss. Ideal for indoor family events as well.

I now use this 16-50 for landscapes and general snaps and carry it mostly for family events and general travel. Its turned out to be a brilliant all rounder. Add to it the fact that it charges on a micro-USB! You dont need an extra charger!
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I was thinking, a mirrorless - with at least a DX sized sensor - would be nice for the landscape shots during the safaris. Would fit in my cargo pockets or jacket pockets lol. Maybe time to take the plunge :-)

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I was thinking, a mirrorless - with at least a DX sized sensor - would be nice for the landscape shots during the safaris. Would fit in my cargo pockets or jacket pockets lol. Maybe time to take the plunge :-)
Make it medium format !!

Fujifilm GFX50S. Mirrorless medium format. It is not fitting any pockets but should be "good" for landscape photography.
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Make it medium format !!

Fujifilm GFX50S. Mirrorless medium format. It is not fitting any pockets but should be "good" for landscape photography.
I would opt for a mirrorless camera only for size and portability. Medium format has different uses, is too expensive, and bulky.

My ancient D7100 is still doing ok re impromptu landscapes, as I found out during a recent trip to the Terai forests. All shot with the basic 18-105 kit lens. It was kept on the seat since I was using another body and lens for wildlife, and only picked up occasionally. But a smaller form factor would have helped, especially in a safari vehicle. Or when walking around.

So, a small mirrorless with at least a DX sized sensor, and as good image quality as the best crop sensor bodies in the market. Decent AF, need not be really good. Ability to shoot 14 bit RAW. A good wide angle zoom. And good ergonomics with a lot of manual control (no deep diving into menus to change simple settings) - e.g. one should be able to focus on point A, meter (lock exposure) for point B, and then recompose in an instant. I can do it very easily on my Nikons (using AF-ON for focus lock + shutter button for exposure lock), is it that simple on the mirrorless cameras?

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The Olympus OMD E1 MkII wins the Gold Award at DPReview.

https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/oly...-m1-mark-ii/11
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I know there are quite a few Sony lovers here. For those looking to buy in the US, BH photo has the A6000 body for 398$ and you get a 50$ GC as well. Sweet deal.
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I know there are quite a few Sony lovers here. For those looking to buy in the US, BH photo has the A6000 body for 398$ and you get a 50$ GC as well. Sweet deal.

I know nothing about this Sony, but if you are buying in the USA, B&H is an excellent place online.

Or even better, if you ever find yourself in NewYork, look up their store. It is truly amazing. Bring a credit card (or two!)

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