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Old 9th July 2007, 17:17   #16
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Swift is a good car, but definitely not as a first car. I own it for more than a year and even now get new dents and scratches once in a while. Its the wheel-arch flaring and low bumper that take most of the hits. I've made four insurance claims in the first year, all for dents and scratches.

Otherwise the car is good. My wife, 5 ft, also drives it comfortably everywhere except at tight parking places.

Santro would be a better choice, in fact much easier for city driving than Swift.

Also make sure that you learn driving, at least some lessons, on the car you intend to buy.

PS: There is no real issue with the power steering of Swift. In fact it is one of the best. The test drive car your friend tried might be having some problems.

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Old 9th July 2007, 17:18   #17
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Better to go for a new gen hatch like Chevy Spark!

But, please test drive it before you decide, also suggest a test drive of Palio Stile 1.1 too!
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Better to go for a new gen hatch like Chevy Spark!

But, please test drive it before you decide, also suggest a test drive of Palio Stile 1.1 too!
Why the 1.1, shouldnt she try the 1.6?
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Why the 1.1, shouldnt she try the 1.6?
EMD pal, 1.6 is too hot for a first timer to handle!

Stile 1.1 is good enough & will serve her very well!
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Check Spark otherwise Santro, for your height these are the most comfortable ones to drive around.

Any reason why you left Alto out? It will save you some money and will be very convenient to use.
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Old 9th July 2007, 17:55   #21
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Hi Nids,

Was in the same situation as you a few months back..and I chose the Spark.

Why? replies below:


Price Range: 4.5 Lac OTR in Delhi max.

- Spark LS will be comfortably within budget and so would the LT.

Maintenance: Should be as low as possible.

- Spark has low cost of maintenance. yet to experience but claimed!!

Monthly Travel: 800 to 1000 km. Within Delhi, with an occasional once a week visit to Gurgaon Office on the NH8

- Mainly city with an occasional letting loose. Sparky wont disappoint at all.

Totally Self driven. By myself and brother. Want comfortable seating for 4 adults and one kid

- 4 Adults and 1 kid should be comfy


- I am a gal.

: Really doesnt matter. Sparky doesnt discriminate

- 5 feet in height. This is a major factor in me deciding which car to buy. It has to be a car that can be driven comfortably by someone of my height.

: SHorter you are the better suited you are for the Spark. But do sit and see..


- I am a first time driver. Will start my lessons this week

: One of the easiest cars to drive and it forgives any mistakes.. handles very well.. Tubeless tires and gas shocks.. what else do you need?


I have done a little bit of research on the cars that I have shortlisted:

- Wagon R: Ruled out the moment I sat in it. The driver seat did not have a position which would enable me to reach the pedals comfortably. Either I had to stretch or there would be too little leg space.

(Me never considered this as I dont lke the looks)

- Swift: Found this to be comfortable. And it just about fits in my budget too. But slight apprehension is whether its a good "first" car. I mean, it is bigger dimensionwise so will it be tougher to drive compared to smaller hatches ?
Also, the friend who drove it thought the power steering was a bit hard compared to other cars ? Is this the case with swift ?

(Fun to drive. I liked it. Bigger dimensions dont matter. You will get used to it while driving. But everyone else and the lamppost has a Swift)

- Spark: My initial thought was that the dash + steering were very high and would obstruct my vision. But will have to recheck on that ? Anyone has any info on it ?

(There you are... nope.. not at all.. Hardly obstructs. You may find the A pillar on the right a little in the way but its not worth a worry)

- Estilo: Apart from the fact that the driving position looked comfortable, I generally dont like this car. Will be my last choice if it comes to that.

(Eeekkkkkssssss....noooooooooo)

- Santro: Does it make sense to buy it considering that its about to be phased out / replaced ?

(Well.. its a good car. But am against Korean stuff..personally as my work has opened my eyes on how they do R & D. And in the highways I find it a little lacking)

What does the team think?

Well I think Sparky.. Go Sparky Go..

But as most of the team has said. Its best to TD before you buy. Suggest you start your lessons, TD and then buy. Reviews /opinions all serve as a guide..but in the end its the TD and your experience that matters.


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Old 9th July 2007, 21:17   #22
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Hi Nids,
If you drive mostly in the city then Santro is the perfect choice. It is an amazing car to drive in the city with good steering response. I have Santro Xing for the past 3 years and I am totally happy with the car. Maintenance is less and the after sales service is good. The seating position is high and it gives a good view of the road which makes easy to drive. If you consider the budget just go with AC and power steering.
The recent "car and bike show" comments that there is no new version of Santro at least a year, and they have recently launched CNG Santro. All the best.
May be they should explain why there are test cars flying down the highways.

I hope you saw the thread with the spy pics from one of our members.
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Check Spark otherwise Santro, for your height these are the most comfortable ones to drive around.

Any reason why you left Alto out? It will save you some money and will be very convenient to use.
Thanks Jaggu. Left out the Alto because I thought one of the ones that I shortlisted will be good enough. Lets see


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Was in the same situation as you a few months back..and I chose the Spark.

: SHorter you are the better suited you are for the Spark. But do sit and see..

Nimz
Thanks for the detailed reply Nimz.

Are you sure that the dash / steering is not higher in Spark compared to a WR or an Estilo ?

What is the FE you get ?
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I feel the Alto is yet perfect for a first-time driver. Its the ideal city car.
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May be they should explain why there are test cars flying down the highways.

I hope you saw the thread with the spy pics from one of our members.
My fear exactly. Have been hearing this news / rumour of an upgrade or a replacement by PA. Otherwise it would have been a very good choice.

BTW, which thread ? Can you pl provide the link ?
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Since you are just going to learn to drive and this will be your first car, I would definitely recommend going for Spark.

Its an amazingly small car - Great to drive in traffic also great for new learner for perfecting his/her judgment.
Has more than sufficient power - 1L engine is more than enough for this car.
Has very good A/C - Thanks to its bigger engine than Matiz, even when A/C is ON car has good drivability. And its very good A/C will keep you cool in hot summer.
Central Dash controversy - Don't fall for people saying central dash is distracting and all. It takes no more than 2 minutes to get used to, and is not distracting at all.
Lower maintenance cost - From what data GM is giving it will be cheap to maintain.


As for your query about High mounted steering - That one is you gonna have to decide for yourself. Maybe another detailed visit to GM dealer would be of help.
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Hi Nids,

I would suggest you to go far Chevvy Spark. This is the Best suited for your requirements.

With Best Regards
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Old 9th July 2007, 22:46   #28
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Hi, Nids,

Since this is your 1st car, my recommendation would be go for Alto-LXI (FE-16kmpl) with ac in city. Next, Santro (FE-14 kmpl city); and third Swift -VXi. As the other guys has put it,even if their minor dents, it will not hurt much. Maruti has a better A.S.S than other manufacturers.

Do take the test drive first and then decide.......
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Old 9th July 2007, 23:16   #29
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My wife drives cars pretty well. She is short too, we have an old Zen (not the estillo) and she's able to drive it w/o any hassles.

My suggestion would be to consider a second hand car (say a two-three year old car) as your first car. Any dents or scratches will only hurt your pocket and not your heart. Also you'll get used to car driving/maintainence/financing without much ado.

In this segment, you might want to consider the old Zen as well.

If you still want to go for a first hand, my choice would be the swift or the spark.

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I solemnly agree lol.

For first car owners I would recommend that as said above try to get yourself comfy with cars by purchasing a second hand car. (costs less, resale good, hurts less if dents caused etc..m800, alto wud be good itc)

Santro is also a v.good choice for a second hand or new car. If you plan to keep the car for 5 years I think you should buy the current model. Very easy to get used to car, visibility is excellent, steering is sweet even without the PS.

Maybe after a year or so with experience driving your own car and driving other cars you may be able to judge the perfect car for you (new model coming soon..) and but it brand new.

This would be sensible for any new car owner and first time driver.
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Hi Team,

Need your help and inputs on deciding a car for myself.

Cars short listed: Swift (P), Spark, Santro, Estilo ( In order of preference going just by the looks and comfortable seating). ( Have decidedly ruled out UVA and Wagon R)
Go for Swift VXI.
Spark if you think Swift is too common.
Santro is the best hatchback in-city IMO, though its quite old now!!
Would have recommended Palio Stile 1.1, alas for the torturous A.S.S
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