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Old 11th March 2008, 12:31   #46 (permalink)
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If modding is your intention go for a second hand petrol swift.You might save atleast a lakh from the new one and still around 60 k from the diesel.I think the difference of 1.6 lakh would take care of a turbo in the petrol swift.Then again you got the 25k to be spend on the petes box for the other mods you feel for.
So think about it and decide,lol.
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Old 28th April 2008, 20:55   #47 (permalink)
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as observed in the forums,its said by many that diesels are better choices if the monthly drive is about 1200 kms!
and with this driving distance,the extra cash on the diesel can be made up within 3 to 4 years time.
what if the monthly run is 700-750 kms and if the car was planned to be kept for a period of 8-8.5 years!!would it still be worth buying the diesel or should i opt for petrol??
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Old 28th April 2008, 22:07   #48 (permalink)
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as observed in the forums,its said by many that diesels are better choices if the monthly drive is about 1200 kms!
and with this driving distance,the extra cash on the diesel can be made up within 3 to 4 years time.
what if the monthly run is 700-750 kms and if the car was planned to be kept for a period of 8-8.5 years!!would it still be worth buying the diesel or should i opt for petrol??
I was also in a dilemma between Petrol vs Diesel. I stuck to the petrol cos my running is not more than 800 kms p.m. Since you have almost same usage i would suggest you to stick to Petrol. If you do make quite a lot of trips regularly side by side then give a shot at the diesel. But i would suggest you the Petrol any day for your running. Cheers!
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Old 28th April 2008, 22:29   #49 (permalink)
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if you get the diesel, you will automatically drive more. and if its the petrol, you will always be calculating how much its costing you to travel.
suppose you wake up one sunday morning and want to take a long drive, say 300kms,it will cost you-20 litres of diesel(worst case scenario) which is roughly Rs650
or if its a petrol-23 litres(best case scenario) which will cost you roughly Rs1200

Rs 1200 is not an easy amount to spend on an impulse drive.
Rs650 might not be an easy expenditure either, but its easier than 1200.

what i'm trying to say is- once you get the diesel, you'll be ruled by the bank balance a lot less.

i prefer taking the extra 1 lac hit and paying a fixed amount every EMI than calculating everytime I go to the fuel pump. peace of mind, and fun to drive.

why bother buying petrol swift? its a great car, but our govts stupid fuel pricing policy tilts the balance in favour of the diesel. heavily.
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Old 29th April 2008, 15:46   #50 (permalink)
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Higher monthly running or not.... DIESEL ROCKS!!!
And trust me, when you fill her up and you see the phenomenal mileage, you will certainly consider driving more ofter....so fill her up again.....DIESEL ROCKS!!!
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Old 29th April 2008, 15:59   #51 (permalink)
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dont bother about monthly running and everything else.
I would suggest the Swift ZDi definitely.
The new gen Diesel engine has the same performance as the petrol Swift.

Better car. Superb Diesel Engine. Great price on Fuel. Why not? Provided you have the budget of course even if it is a bit of a stretch.

Ive been on Diesel for a few years now and despite my monthly running being around 1000 kms on average, am clearly finding the pinch to be less.

which is why, despite living in bangalore (read congested city with horrible traffic), I still use my Diesel Scorp rather than the Petrol Swift, most days, for most things - except when Im going deep into severely congested places where parking is a problem.

In your case with the Diesel Swift you should not face even that problem.

whatever you decide finally, wish you a happy and enjoyable new car
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Old 30th April 2008, 08:46   #52 (permalink)
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My usage is hardly 400 km per month, but still went ahead to buy a Swift Diesel. Believe me, Swift D is more easy to drive in city (Bangalore) - read stop and go traffic. Also my other car in my home town (Coimbatore) is Swift petrol and comparatively Swift D rocks!
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Old 2nd May 2008, 23:49   #53 (permalink)
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Here is my comparision...

Cost of diesel(regular, Bangalore price) - 36.4
Average mileage of swift-D (highway+city) - 18
Cost per km - 2.02

Cost per 15K km per year - 30,333.33

Petrol - 52.86
Mileage - 14
Cost per km - 3.77


Cost per 15K km per year - 56,635.71

Saving per year with Diesel - 26,302.38

Extra initial cost with diesel - 80,000

Time to break even - 3.04 years

This is not even considering the interest part.
But I went for diesel because I prefer initial investment as opposed to feeling pinch every month.

Choice is yours. you can put these in an excel sheet, and change prices, and average run per year, and arrive at your conclusion
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Old 3rd May 2008, 13:04   #54 (permalink)
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I suppose the service costs especially at 20k intervals are higher for diesel than its petrol sibling!
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Old 5th May 2008, 23:51   #55 (permalink)
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What about up a gradient? Say uphill, which is better petrol or diesel swift? If both were to climb up a steep incline, at crawl speed then diesel swift will be more comfortable because of all the torque at lower rpm whereas in petrol swift you might have to slip the clutch and rev higher to generate enough torque since a petrol swift's higher torque comes on at higher rpm.

However, if both were to go for an all out blistering race up an incline, then I think petrol swift will beat diesel. In petrol swift, you can downshift one or two cogs and then rev all the way to moon ( as someone said ), then petrol swift will go screaming up the incline leaving diesel swift in its wake because in diesels higher revs don't mean much and on the contrary with rise of revs, its torque falls. I didn't witness this race but guys who did this up a hill, here in Vizag, said this. They said petrol swift simply flew up the hill while diesel was huffing and puffing and making more noise than progress. Could this be true? Some of you may try and see.
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i personally prefer the petrols however if you are with the diesel then get a petes box attached and prob that should wipe away your craving power requirements.
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Old 6th May 2008, 07:53   #57 (permalink)
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I suppose the service costs especially at 20k intervals are higher for diesel than its petrol sibling!
it is about 1.5 K higher. which translates to about 5K for a 3 year period (Assuming you drive 20K km every year).

My calculation -

my comparison...

Cost of diesel(regular, Bangalore price) - 36.4
Average mileage of swift-D (highway+city) - 18
Cost per km - 2.02

Cost per 15K km per year - 30,333.33

Petrol - 52.86
Mileage - 12 (The published FE for petrol is 11-13 kmpl)
Cost per km - 4.4105

Cost per 15K km per year - 66075

Saving per year with Diesel - 35741.67

In addition one would get a resale value of Swift D higher than Swift P by at least 40000 in 3 years

I would not consider the interest cost for 80000 because the price of petrol would increase more than diesel over next 3 years.

Extra initial cost with diesel - 80,000 + 5000 - 40000 (extra servicing cost for 3 years)

Time to break even - 1.26 years or 1 years 3 months.

Diesel swift performance is much better than petrol Swift(As the saying goes you pay for power and drive torque).
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