Swift diesel delivery woes - Team-BHP

GeekSrik · 13th April 2007, 14:00

hi all,

though i was not sure i wanted to start a new thread, i ve put this thread here (mods may change as you please) to understand why the swift diesel takes so much time to be delivered.

bimal has quoted 4-5 months, while i spoke to mandovi and they say 6 months time to deliver. while more bookings isnt the only reason for this, looks like dealers are approximating and doubling estimated times to be on the careful side with customers.

the last i waited like this was with the bajaj chetak scooter! i dont understand why maruti would/could not have guaged the sales figures and what exactly is delaying cars coming out when cars like palio of lesser demand is coming out early!

add to that the new baleno launch this month end and either both baleno and swift diesel could be delayed doubly or if baleno is being made faster, then there is a something specific and issue with only swift diesel. i m really bored/tired and frustrated with this kind of waiting period. if someone has inner information, can you share why this is being the case!?

moralfibre · 13th April 2007, 14:03

While I am not sure of the delay for delivery. A fellow member "Busa" faced similar issues when he planned to buy the Swift Diesel with ABS. In his case, ABS was not readily available but other models were available readily. 6 months is too much of a wait. Maruti Swift (Maruti Automotive Mfg are Fraud)

Jaggu · 13th April 2007, 14:33

yes i personally know the frustration involved in the wait...but the reason for wait might be as simple as maruti never expecting so much of booking or diesel engine production number constraints in their new plant, they might not be running the factory in full production.

as i suggested to you Geeksrik, hold on to the booking for now and follow up with the dealer, meanwhile if some other new car which is of your taste is launched, cancel the booking and move on.

and my guess is you will get the swift D before any of these cars are launched and delivered to you.

Su-47 · 13th April 2007, 15:26

A source in Bosch (guys who make CRDI units for Maruti) mentioned that Maruti is having some endurance/yield related issues with the diesel engine.

I think he has a point. We can get petrol swift very quickly, so they surely have the capacity to manufacture everything that is common between petrol and diesel swift. Besides, Maruti isn't foolish to squander the first mover advantage in this segment by delaying the deliveries to such a huge extent.

Cheers,
Su-47

esteem_lover · 13th April 2007, 15:42

x 10

I guess maruti is overworked in launching the new baleno. I cant see any other reason for this or their diesel engine plant has encountered some problems that we dont know.

GeekSrik · 13th April 2007, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Su-47

A source in Bosch (guys who make CRDI units for Maruti) mentioned that Maruti is having some endurance/yield related issues with the diesel engine.

Cheers,
Su-47

now i am seriously concerned what this means. endurance related issues? so is my worst fear that something might be mismatching between engine and rest of car true?

maybe our jaggu bhai is the best person to comment on endurance related issues so far (~200km??)

iraghava · 13th April 2007, 20:48

GS - Apparently our dear Stumpy has some high-level contacts at RNS Motors in your city. Maybe you should pester him to have some arrangement made for you!

Wimwian · 13th April 2007, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Su-47

A source in Bosch (guys who make CRDI units for Maruti) mentioned that Maruti is having some endurance/yield related issues with the diesel engine.

Can you please provide more details on the 'issues'... this sounds serious!!

Jaggu · 13th April 2007, 21:24

oh am scared now... common guys i would rather worry about the delay than go ahead and post some sources info..

and why does it happen when i buy a car lol, last one was when i picked iKON, what all i had to hear.. lol lol lol

i trust in warranty and insurance and believe that no manufacture will destroy their reputation taking BIG chances

and i also do have the highest contact in RNS and do you really think that a dealer would divulge such an info even if they come to know also????

GeekS there are other owners who have done more kms than me and they will be able to give a better picture on issues. Km update i dont have coz my elder bro has taken the car to show off

and am running around in his Crv.

cheers
jaggu

GeekSrik · 13th April 2007, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

i trust in warranty and insurance and believe that no manufacture will destroy their reputation taking BIG chances

and i also do have the highest contact in RNS and do you really think that a dealer would divulge such an info even if they come to know also????

jaggu

the RNS he was referring to is for delivery i assume, not for the endurance info !! and btw, ur whole family seems to own automobiles all across the segments A/B/C & D

Wimwian · 13th April 2007, 22:56

But seriously, 6 months is too long a wait IMHO... by the time one actually gets his hands on the car, there will be at least 2 new diesel models in the market...

Su-47 · 13th April 2007, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeekSrik

now i am seriously concerned what this means. endurance related issues? so is my worst fear that something might be mismatching between engine and rest of car true?

maybe our jaggu bhai is the best person to comment on endurance related issues so far (~200km??)

Gents, the person from whom I came to know about this doesn't work for Maruti, but for Bosch. So, he doesn't (claim to) know what the exact problem is.

The first few engines produced failed the endurance test, and I am sure Maruti isn't foolish enough to put such things into customer's car and spoil its hard earned reputation. I don't think there is anything to worry. Its just that Maruti is not able to produce enough engines that meet their own quality requirements. Hence the low yield.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

oh am scared now... common guys i would rather worry about the delay than go ahead and post some sources info..i trust in warranty and insurance and believe that no manufacture will destroy their reputation taking BIG chances

I agree no manufacturer will put their reputation at stake. We are just trying to find out the reasons for slow delivery of swift-D. I shared the info I had as I thought it would be worthwhile for others to know about it, and not to scare anyone

nitrous · 13th April 2007, 23:45

Then, how is that Drifty drove a 25,000 km run Swift test-mule and said its ok?

BUSA · 14th April 2007, 23:09

Guys i am been qouted flat 1 week time for delivery for any colour for VDi with ABS but with ABS its gonna take time and i am waiting.

aadix · 14th April 2007, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUSA

Guys i am been qouted flat 1 week time for delivery for any colour for VDi with ABS but with ABS its gonna take time and i am waiting.

lucky u.. three months min in hyd... white no chance at all in the near future..

13th April 2007, 14:00	#1 (permalink)
GeekSrik BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 800 View My Garage	Swift diesel delivery woes hi all, though i was not sure i wanted to start a new thread, i ve put this thread here (mods may change as you please) to understand why the swift diesel takes so much time to be delivered. bimal has quoted 4-5 months, while i spoke to mandovi and they say 6 months time to deliver. while more bookings isnt the only reason for this, looks like dealers are approximating and doubling estimated times to be on the careful side with customers. the last i waited like this was with the bajaj chetak scooter! i dont understand why maruti would/could not have guaged the sales figures and what exactly is delaying cars coming out when cars like palio of lesser demand is coming out early! add to that the new baleno launch this month end and either both baleno and swift diesel could be delayed doubly or if baleno is being made faster, then there is a something specific and issue with only swift diesel. i m really bored/tired and frustrated with this kind of waiting period. if someone has inner information, can you share why this is being the case!? __________________ Sriky

13th April 2007, 14:03	#2 (permalink)
moralfibre Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnyvale CA. Posts: 3,204 View My Garage	While I am not sure of the delay for delivery. A fellow member "Busa" faced similar issues when he planned to buy the Swift Diesel with ABS. In his case, ABS was not readily available but other models were available readily. 6 months is too much of a wait. Maruti Swift (Maruti Automotive Mfg are Fraud) __________________ Ask not what your country can do for you, think of a way you can make them do it!

13th April 2007, 14:33	#3 (permalink)
Jaggu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,208	yes i personally know the frustration involved in the wait...but the reason for wait might be as simple as maruti never expecting so much of booking or diesel engine production number constraints in their new plant, they might not be running the factory in full production. as i suggested to you Geeksrik, hold on to the booking for now and follow up with the dealer, meanwhile if some other new car which is of your taste is launched, cancel the booking and move on. and my guess is you will get the swift D before any of these cars are launched and delivered to you. __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

13th April 2007, 15:26	#4 (permalink)
Su-47 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 325	A source in Bosch (guys who make CRDI units for Maruti) mentioned that Maruti is having some endurance/yield related issues with the diesel engine. I think he has a point. We can get petrol swift very quickly, so they surely have the capacity to manufacture everything that is common between petrol and diesel swift. Besides, Maruti isn't foolish to squander the first mover advantage in this segment by delaying the deliveries to such a huge extent. Cheers, Su-47 __________________ Never wrestle with a pig, for if you do, you will both get dirty, but the pig will enjoy it - Charlie Munger

13th April 2007, 15:42	#5 (permalink)
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras Posts: 4,688 View My Garage	x 10 I guess maruti is overworked in launching the new baleno. I cant see any other reason for this or their diesel engine plant has encountered some problems that we dont know. __________________ If you can use, some exotic booze, Theres a bar in far bombay Come fly with me, we'll fly we'll fly away - Frank Sinatra

13th April 2007, 20:48	#7 (permalink)
iraghava Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 6,560 View My Garage	GS - Apparently our dear Stumpy has some high-level contacts at RNS Motors in your city. Maybe you should pester him to have some arrangement made for you! __________________ I'm killing time while I wait for life to shower me with meaning and happiness.

13th April 2007, 21:24	#9 (permalink)
Jaggu Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 3,208	oh am scared now... common guys i would rather worry about the delay than go ahead and post some sources info.. and why does it happen when i buy a car lol, last one was when i picked iKON, what all i had to hear.. lol lol lol i trust in warranty and insurance and believe that no manufacture will destroy their reputation taking BIG chances and i also do have the highest contact in RNS and do you really think that a dealer would divulge such an info even if they come to know also???? GeekS there are other owners who have done more kms than me and they will be able to give a better picture on issues. Km update i dont have coz my elder bro has taken the car to show off and am running around in his Crv. cheers jaggu __________________ The strength to change what I can, the inability to accept what I can't, and the incapacity to tell the difference. -Calvin

13th April 2007, 22:56	#11 (permalink)
Wimwian BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kolkata Posts: 158 View My Garage	But seriously, 6 months is too long a wait IMHO... by the time one actually gets his hands on the car, there will be at least 2 new diesel models in the market...

13th April 2007, 23:45	#13 (permalink)
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 3,804 View My Garage	Then, how is that Drifty drove a 25,000 km run Swift test-mule and said its ok? __________________ Kudikaaran Pechu Vidinjadhum Pochu

14th April 2007, 23:09	#14 (permalink)
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,189 View My Garage	Guys i am been qouted flat 1 week time for delivery for any colour for VDi with ABS but with ABS its gonna take time and i am waiting. __________________ thecarsandmore.blogspot. com

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