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Old 10th August 2011, 10:03   #616
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True. 185/65 R15 is more than enough for the kind of power Swift generates. But because it is a very uncommon size, the options with better quality rubber are limited.

However, 195/60 R15 will be a very good upgrade. Not too wide and almost the same wall height. And most importantly, a lot of upgrade options available.
Would anyone know what tyre options are available for the following two sizes:

185/65 R15
195/60 R15

I am told that the ISI requirements have cut tyre supplies and performance tyres are not available at all.
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it;s being said that they have introduced Plastic fuel tank to reduce weight of the new swift. is it true ?
Anybody has any idea how they have reduced the weight of already feather light swift more.
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Not the Indian Swift but still interesting to see the Stereo interface! If we're getting the same audio system, it sounds pretty good for OE!

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Would anyone know what tyre options are available for the following two sizes:

185/65 R15
195/60 R15
195/60 R15 is a very easily available profile. Have seen those with Bridgestone & Michelin as well. Guess those are available on Yokohama as well. Not sure about the 185/65 R15 though.
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True. 185/65 R15 is more than enough for the kind of power Swift generates. But because it is a very uncommon size, the options with better quality rubber are limited.
Very true, but the stock size is a bit uncommon & not available in michelin primacyLC . So the ones available are 195/65/15 & 195/60/15. Which one is better suited?
Also, will these upsizes not hamper with the warranty?

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Very true, but the stock size is a bit uncommon & not available in michelin primacyLC . So the ones available are 195/65/15 & 195/60/15. Which one is better suited?
Also, will these upsizes not hamper with the warranty?
As long as the rim is of the same size as stock, warranty should be intact ! Out of the options mentioned, I guess 195/65 R15 will have a better comfort, if this profile is available.

For the old Swift, 195/60 R15 was the BEST upgrade though - So that should not hurt as well.
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As long as the rim is of the same size as stock, warranty should be intact ! Out of the options mentioned, I guess 195/65 R15 will have a better comfort, if this profile is available.

For the old Swift, 195/60 R15 was the BEST upgrade though - So that should not hurt as well.
As the stock wheel size is now going to be different for the L & V variants compared to the Z, it will be interesting to see how MUL plays with the warranty clause. Upsizing L and V variants to 15" shouldn't affect warranty ideally. Whether change in profile (65 to 60) will nullify warranty remains to be seen. 195/65/R15 would be ideal though is not a standard size.


I am hoping that 195/60/R15 would fit on the OEM alloys which would have 185/65/R15 rubber.

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The old Swift could use any of the following:
  • 165/80 R14
  • 185/70 R14
  • 195/60 R15
  • 205/55 R15
without the tyre diameter changing significantly. In fact the first two are the stock tyre sizes for the Lxi/Vxi and Zxi respectively.

The new Swift apparently has
  • 185/65 R15- stock
  • 195/60 R 15- this is within 6 mm (0.97%) overall diameter, so should not be a problem.
  • However 205/55 R15 will no longer be an option (2.25% difference, recommended maximum is 2%). I don't know if 205/60 R15 is available; if yes, that is the correct upgrade (0.97%)
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Would anyone know what tyre options are available for the following two sizes:

185/65 R15
195/60 R15

I am told that the ISI requirements have cut tyre supplies and performance tyres are not available at all.
Look what I found. PIRELLI

Pirelli has got a lot of options in the ZXi/ ZDi stock size of 185/65 R15 like the Cinturato P6. But I wonder whether they are avaiable here as of now.

AFAIK, 195/60 R15 is available in the following
- Bridgestone Potenza GIII, Potenza RE88
- Michelin Primacy LC
- Yokohama S.drive, A.drive, C.drive

I think the low supply due to the ISI mandate is over now. My friend picked up the Yoko S.drive 2 months back and it was available off the shelf at many stores here.

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Very true, but the stock size is a bit uncommon & not available in michelin primacyLC . So the ones available are 195/65/15 & 195/60/15. Which one is better suited?
Also, will these upsizes not hamper with the warranty?
The 195/65/15 relative to stock tyre 185/65 R15. Difference in circumference: 2.09%
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The 195/60/15 relative to stock tyre 185/65 R15. Difference in circumference: -1.05%
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Take your pick. I would prefer 195/60/15, if 185/65 R15 is not available with a good brand. No idea on the warranty, though I have seen a lot of Swifts with some insane upsizes.

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Today morning I got a call from Regional office Maruti Suzuki, which in our case is Chandigarh. The lady asked my booking status, i.e. weather I have upgraded my booking to the new Swift . And has I continued my booking or not. She did mention my old booked model as VDI-Abs but did'nt bother to ask me which is my current selected model, that weather I have upgraded to ZDI or not. One thing I can make out of this call is that Maruti wants to check the authenticity of the bookings, that weather the customer who had earlier booked the old swift have continued with the new Swift or the dealers are faking the bookings to earn some premium. The only thing she stressed on was that weather I have continued with my booking or not.
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As long as the rim is of the same size as stock, warranty should be intact ! .
This is not true for most manufacturers. Please check with your dealer and confirm.

If good options are not available in the stock size, go for 195/60 R15. All leading brands are available at this size.
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Look what I found. PIRELLI

Pirelli has got a lot of options in the ZXi/ ZDi stock size of 185/65 R15 like the Cinturato P6. But I wonder whether they are avaiable here as of now.
Pirelli is available in Delhi NCR, in Indirapuram to be more specific. Basically a JK dealer who has also become a Distributor of Pirelli. Managed by racing enthusiast 2 young men.

Had almost decided on it when I was looking for tyres for my Wagon R. Finally ended up buying Michellin. But at times do wonder whether I made a right choice. 5 years warranty. 12 mm tread instead of usual 8. Guess I went with the masses
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Hi guys,

The Swift is an exceedingly important car, perhaps the most important launch of the year thus far. We haven't gotten our hands on the new Swift as yet, but can tell you that we'll be driving it in the coming weeks - and once that happens, you can bet on the most detailed and unbiased review there is on the web (and otherwise). Until then, please be patient.
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Hi guys,

The Swift is an exceedingly important car, perhaps the most important launch of the year thus far. We haven't gotten our hands on the new Swift as yet, but can tell you that we'll be driving it in the coming weeks - and once that happens, you can bet on the most detailed and unbiased review there is on the web (and otherwise). Until then, please be patient.
Trust me we are all waiting for it !
If you can, please do take pictures of all the highlighted features of the new swift, including the all new plastic fuel tank. Waiting for the review.
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