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Old 21st September 2011, 20:27   #1441
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Was at ABT chennai yesterday for booking the new swift. Came back without booking the car due to good reasons.

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Bye bye MSIL..........Time for more TD........here i come ford/hyundai/nissan
geeash, why don't you try Kivraj. I can give you a good reference, will for sure get some tentative date for delivery of your zdi/vdi. Ping me your mobile number, will call you to talk.
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Old 21st September 2011, 23:51   #1442
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How are these guys on the trust / ethics factor? Again thanks for the feedback on the new version. I want to know on the rattling part and I feel thats the only down part of the previous gen Swift. Otherwise I am mostly happy with my car & its performance [except for rear & boot space - I know the new Swift also dont score "heavily" better on these parameters]
I got the news from a trustworthy person. He promised me a delivery within 2 months for my current VDi when everybody else were saying 5-6 months and the same was delivered to me on the 65th day of booking But there was no Maruti strike going on at that time. Once the strike issue is sorted out and the supply chain is back to normal, I think the waiting period will very well settle around 2-3 months. I can very well understand your worries on the rattling part, am also in the same boat. The new Swift felt much better on NVH levels, but am planning to try my friend's Swift after his first couple of months with the car. My VDi was rattle free till it was 2-3 months old. Regarding the rear space, I felt the new one more comfortable but the boot space is again a big let down. Its worse than the current swift
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Drove the new Swift today and I am a bit underwhelmed especially given the hype around this car.

Whats good
1. The engine pulls hard once turbo comes in.
2. The interiors are nice to look at.
3. One of the better sounding factory stereo, not the best.
4. Driving position is better than the old Swift.
5. Better feedback and response from the steering. One of the better EPS around.
6. Braking is good.
7. The alloys look nice in person.

Whats not
1. A low frequency sound fills the cabin which will make you go mad even if you are slightly lugging the engine. Shift down and its fine.
2. The suspension is better than old Swift but then its not saying much. It still crashes badly through potholes. The chassis doesn't feel solid enough. The much maligned i20 feels much better as far as chassis stiffness is concerned.
3. Very small boot which is unforgivable for a premium hatch given that this will be the only car for some families.
4. The build quality is still some way of the competition. The Europeans are in a different league altogether.
5. The plastic are still average. Even though they fit well, the plastic themselves are brittle.
6. The ZDi i drive had 800 odd kms on the odo and I could hear a rattle or two. I can bet that this would start rattling in a years time and would only fare slightly better than the old model.
7. No engine start stop button, no bluetooth.
8. Expensive @ Rs 7.14 Lakhs on road Delhi.

All said, the car appeals to the heart. It has a definite character and is very enjoyable to drive.

Competition dissected

Fiat Punto
Where it scores.
1. Looks better in my opinion
2. Build quality, ride and handling is way ahead.
3. More equipment
4. Better brakes.
5. Bigger boot.

Where it doesn't
1. Performance is not as good as Swift
2. Gearshift not as good as Swift.
3. Shitty sounding factory stereo.
4. After sales network not as wide.

Hyundai i20

Where it scores
1. Build and plastic quality is way ahead.
2. Feels better going through potholes.
3. Equipment list leaves Swift feeling hollow.
4. More powerful engine.

Where it doesn't
1. Possibly the most un-involving hatch to drive. The most commuterish of all.
2. Weak A/C
3. The worst steering in a hatch.

Nissan Micra

Where it scores
1. Interiors quality and equipment
2. At 6.5 lakhs after discounts for the XV Premium, its a real value for money.
3. Better mileage?
4. No turbo lag. Mid range is explosive.
5. Bigger boot.

Where it doesn't
1. Steering is dead.
2. Quirky styling. Too feminine
3. Not as involving to drive.
4. No ABS! What were Nissan thinking!

Ford Figo

Where it scores
1. Interiors and boot space.
2. Better build.
3. The most VFM hatch around.
4. Better ride and handling.
5. Drive-ability within the city.
6. Bigger boot.

Where it doesn't
1. Looks are strictly average.
2. Engine top end isn't as good.
3. Not as refined or silent.
4. Slightly notchy gearshift
5. Braking not as good.

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Thanks akhilesh. Thats a very concise and to the point review. The comparison with competition is so helpful.
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Hi,

Today I got a call from the dealer and he told me either to get the refund of my booking amount or take the delivery of Swift VDi. Its been 2 years (June 2009) since I have paid the booking amount. But due to various reasons, we could not take the delivery of the Swift. I went in feb 2011 and revived the booking papers in the showroom.

I told the sales guy that the booking amount has been paid to buy the VDi model. Do you have it now?

He has confirmed me that he has got the "Torque Blue" color, ready to be delivered; to which I have told him that since my first and second choices were White and Silky Silver respectively, I cannot take Blue color.

He told me that you may have to wait for another 4 months for the color of your choice. You didn't confirm the color and confirmed only the new swift model while I called up in the month of May 2011. He says that the Torque Blue is the HOTTEST selling color of new swift in the town today and everybody is asking for this color?

I have clearly told him that I have waited for more than 2 years and I can not take anything which is NOT of my choice.

I am going to meet this new sales manager tomorrow. Lets see if he agrees to deliver me the White or Silky Silver colour. Otherwise I can live without Swift also.

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Default Re: MSIL discontinues old swift. EDIT : New Swift LAUNCHED!

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Drove the new Swift today and I am a bit underwhelmed especially given the hype around this car.

Competition dissected

Fiat Punto
Where it scores.
1. Looks better in my opinion
2. Build quality, ride and handling is way ahead.
3. More equipment
4. Better brakes.
5. Bigger boot.

Where it doesn't
1. Performance is not as good as Swift
That was a very good comparo.

However, you need to elaborate more when you say the statement in bold above. Performance is a pretty broad term and both the Swift and Punto have their own pluses and minuses. For instance, Swift is just stunning in 1st gear and its impossible to find that addictive low end torque in other hatches. On the other side, Punto has amazing top-end speeds where Swift might lose breath.
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Drove the new Swift today and I am a bit underwhelmed especially given the hype around this car.
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4. Slightly notchy gearshift
5. Braking not as good.
Hi Akhilesh, I am looking at buying Micra. How did you manage to get discount on XV Premium, I have been quoted around 7lacs for this variant and 6.34lacs for XV. Dealer is giving no discount on diesel engines. Yes on petrol discount are there in terms of Insurance etc...
Can you please share the details as I am myself planning to book one for my wife :-)
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"The strike at Maruti Suzukiís Manesar plant in Haryana is yet to be resolved, however the company has managed to take production of the Swift to 700 units a day. The new Swift is being produced at both the Manesar and Gurgaon plant of Maruti Suzuki. The increase in production has been done by hiring new workers. If the company is able to maintain the same level of output, it could produce close to 17,500 units of the Swift every month. Currently in its 27th day, the workers strike at Indiaís largest car maker has caused severe losses as well as cancellation of bookings for the company."

Maruti Swift Production Reaches 700 Per Day | MotorBeam - Indian Car Bike News & Reviews
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Note from Mod : GTO's Swift review has been uploaded at this link (Maruti Swift : Test Drive & Review). Please continue the discussion over on the new thread.

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