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Old 24th February 2006, 18:41   #16
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There was this auto show by hyundai people and a personnel of LAKSHMI HYUNDAI said that they have stopped importing the terracan and are clearing off the existing stock
Are there 'deals' on the existing stock for clearance??? Whats the last price they expect?
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Well if they must have all the models then IMO the new line-up would be :

Accent GLE 1.5 - 5 L
Getz CRDi - 5.5 L
Verna 1.6 , low end - 5.75 L
Verna 1.6 , high end - 6.5 L
Verna 1.5 CRDi , single model - 7 L
edit : or a 1.8 CRDi at 7.5 L
Elantra Base - 7 L
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Discontinue
Accent GLS 1.6
Accent CRDi
Viva - all models
Launch an updated Elantra and hike prices slightly from current levels.

edit : as is quite evident. There's more to the story than the Verna. There just isn't space enuff for all these models, with the current Elantra pricing.
This looks like a good lineup.. But I have my doubts if Hyundai will pitch the Accent GLE at 5L... Its a fully loaded car and its barely a little more than the petrol Getz. wouldn't this kill the getz market too?

How come Hyundai isn't exploring the option of phasing out the entire accent fleet? if they could bring in the Verna with the same trim levels as the exising Accent, they'd wipe out the competition...

Here's what I'd like to see.

Verna 1.5 GLE (AC, PS, PW, CL) 6.2 L on road Bangalore
Verna 1.6 GLS (AC, PS, PW, CL with optional ABS and Airbags) 6.8 L on road Bangalore
Verna 1.5 CRDI (AC, PS, PW, CL with optional ABS and Airbags) 7.2 L on road Bangalore
Verna 1.8 Tornado (AC, PS, PW, CL, ABS, Airbags) 8 L on road Bangalore
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This is disappointing....shows how manufacturers are ditching the C-segment, which is pretty much the entry-level sedan segment. First Ford, then Hyundai. This leaves the C-segment pretty much to Tata and Maruti, since I doubt if anyone would want to buy a hand-me-down, which is what the current models would become after their upgrades go upmarket.

Everyone will now end up fighting for the 2400-odd car Honda City market, leaving the much larger 5000+ C-segment for ageing cars.

I hope somebody gets the hint and launches a BRAND NEW car in that segment - that will shake this lot out of their complacence.

i am also baffled as to why the manufacturers are not ready to enter the C-segment.

one plausible reason i could think of is that they are not convinced and committed to the indian market.

i would like to take hyundai and ford as a case in point. when hyundai came to india, it was a non entity, where as ford was relatively a well know brand name.

irony is, hyundai was fully convinced about the indian market chose to introduce santro, wheras ford took a laidback approach and introduced an outdated escort.

with the robust and growing economy like ours, why are mnc's hesitant to enter this segment???

it is common knowledge that the entry level cars are driven by high volume, low margin game. but dont these so called multinationals dont have the wherewithal to do that ????

i am surprised at the lack to competing models to fight with the likes of indicas, zens and santros....

what could be the reason???? tell me...

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Verna 1.5 CRDi , single model - 7 L
When the ageing Accent CRDi cost 7.5L, how can a modern Verna CRDi cost just 7L??

Hyundai would place Verna CRDi right across Fiesta TDCi...So, make it 8+.
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When the ageing Accent CRDi cost 7.5L, how can a modern Verna CRDi cost just 7L??

Hyundai would place Verna CRDi right across Fiesta TDCi...So, make it 8+.
Good point... And even if its 8L I think it'll still sell quite a lot of numbers
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Thanx,satyamenon.

Now coming to the Accent 1.5, Hyundai would place this against the 1.3 flair.

For the 1.8L engine, pretty simple. Just pick it up from the Elantra petrol and drop it in the Verna. Manufacturers these days must be learning a lot from psycho.
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Manufacturers these days must be learning a lot from psycho.


If only there was a way that Hyundai could plonk in the 2.7 V6 into the engine bay.. that would be one hot car...
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What is Suzuki going to do for strengthening their C segment? Hope they will be the only manufacturer who will be blown away by introducion of Verna, Aveo and Logan. Baleno has already been around for so long with aged looks.... moreover it has been replaced by LIANA in many countries. Does anybody know when Suzuki is introducing LIANA in India?.
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If only there was a way that Hyundai could plonk in the 2.7 V6 into the engine bay.. that would be one hot car...
That would only give Psycho an excuse to plonk a Grand Vitara V6 into a Baleno....and if Amitoj is game, in a Zen perhaps.

Dont laugh - I laughed when I heard something similar, but Psycho had the last laugh the next day when I saw that he was serious.
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Elantra costs 6.99 ex showroom. So if semi loaded verna costs 6-6.5 it will compete against elantra. And there does accent go? Will they sell the crdi still at 6.8lac?
And 1.5 litre crdi for Getz? That will make more power than the current crdi.
I believe Elantra was selling above 10L when introduced. Now it is in the price range of Accent. Accent model is too old to be sold anymore.

Now where will the new Accent go and where is the place for Verna. I wish Toyota brings some cars in the range of 8L. Anyway corolla is over priced at its current value.

Hyundai can better concentrate on diesel cars in the C segment and in B.
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No car company has the imagination to capitailze on the booming economy and make merry by selling top-class B,C segment cars that will be purchased by most middle and lower middle class.

I wonder why there are more D segment cars introduced per year than any B,C segment cars. That way these car companies cant sustain longer.

I believe in the D segment also customer satification and godd A.S.S doesnt have a place.
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tifosikrishna & Land Cruiser
As you rightly said B and C segments are driven by high volume low margin, while D & E segment are driven by low volume high margin.

High Volume & low margin means = high & long term commitment to local market. To keep the costs down the mfg will have to set up their own manufacturing/assembling units and developing local component supplier. THis requires significant investments, long break even time and is high risk.

Further with changing tax strategy, importing CKD might become cheaper and hence it may not be worth the risk of starting a whole new manufacturing setup. Hence no new player is entering into low end B & C market. An ideal example of this is Skoda delaying the launch of Fabia in India, because the company is still taking a wait and watch approach to decide on it;s India strategy.

Whereas, Low Volume High margin = low commitment, the vendor can just import CBD or CKDs and sell them in local marker, without any long term commitment or risk. That is the reason why you see so many new models entering indian market in 15Lakhs + range.
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Two new links abt Verna;

"And there will be 35 accessories at launch, as dealer-or port-installed add-ons, which also will be available for the sedan. Included will be a ground-effects kit, cold air intake system, metallic shift knobs, aluminum pedals and doorsills, iPOD holder and LED interior light kit" . I doubt if any of these would be there for India launch though.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...d13hyunda.html
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4170251&EDATE=

And its got a bigger cabin than Civic! and more silent it seems!
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Whatever Hyundai does, I wont buy this car.
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We need something like the booted equivalent of a Swift. Good looks, trusted mechanicals, and good A.S.S. Only Hyundai can pull it off.

Ford have messed up their act long ago.
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