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Old 11th November 2011, 16:27   #76
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Sorry, got interrupted while typing my 100th post. So here is the 101st one.

AC filter – 643 (was never changed so far giving some bad dusty smell)
Hinge lubricating oil 79.91
Transmission flush 250 ml 506.10
Engine flush 250 ml
Spark plug 3nos @53.47 159.81
Element air cleaner 173.14
Radiator Assy (big story, shall tell later) 2386.68
Bushing steering rack 432.41
End Com Steering Tie rod 319.64

Labour charges continued
Steering GR case asy incl. tie rods 240
Steering overhaul 360
Radiator assy R&R 185
Paid Service 640
Brakes overhaul 360
Wheel alignment 200
Wheel balancing 4 wheel 160
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Is this a/c vent. Both of these could have been done as DIY and saved 1250.
Rs 850 for upholstery cleaning is quiet high .Is it fabric type?

Engine room dressing (was very dirty) -Dont they wash the engine bay in regular service?
Upholstery is fabric type. Never cleaned so far. Thought the bad odour will go away. Not of much use.

Have kept all the service history till date. Shall try to type it down some time.

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If we service our cars outside, does it void the warranty? I have a total of 2+2(extended) years of warranty and don't want to void it. My first paid service is coming up.
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Can someone confirm what is the cost of the maintenance service for an i20. Just spoke to someone in a HASS workshop and the lady told me the cost as 3.5K (without the oil) !! I asked her to double check as it's a bit unreal and she stuck to that figure.
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If we service our cars outside, does it void the warranty? I have a total of 2+2(extended) years of warranty and don't want to void it. My first paid service is coming up.
Yes it does void your vehicle's warranty. You need to stick to HASS to keep the warranty intact. Sometimes even delaying your service too much from the manufacturer's specified timeline may also cause trouble while claiming the warranty.


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Can someone confirm what is the cost of the maintenance service for an i20. Just spoke to someone in a HASS workshop and the lady told me the cost as 3.5K (without the oil) !! I asked her to double check as it's a bit unreal and she stuck to that figure.
It can't be true as my i20's first paid service bill came around 3k total (4 months ago) unless she is including the whopping 1000 rs for Wheel alignment & balancing.
In case you are talking about Petrol then here are the charges.Got my getz serviced today and the labour charges are same for i20 & Getz.
Periodic Maintenance Service Rs.980
Fuel Injector Cleaning Rs.295
Throttle Body Cleaning Rs.115
Tyre Rotation Rs.115 (Didn't get it done)
Break Pads Check/Clean/Replace Rs.215
Caliper Pin Greasing Rs.115
Engine Oil & Oil Filter Replace Rs.900

You need to be alert with these HASS guys. One of them wrote engine decarbonisation & engine flush for my getz last year at 16k kms for a total of around Rs.2200.

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They charged me Air Intake Cleaning for 1025 !!!
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They charged me Air Intake Cleaning for 1025 !!!

What exactly do they do in "Air intake cleaning"??

On similar lines, i got my i20's wipers changed at 10K kms in third free service.And the HASS charged me 70 bucks as labor for changing wiper blades even though it was a free service!!

And for replacing the Air filter the labor cost is 100 bucks!! Its just a one minute job and they charge 100!!!



I have decided not to get the following services/parts from the HASS for my i20 CRDI

->Wiper Blades(Costs a whooping 400 per blade)
->Alignment(410 for i20)
->Balancing/Rotation(Costs whooping 800-1000 bucks)
->Engine oil additive(Cost-350)
->Engine Flush(Cost-370)
->Windscreen additive((Cost-100)
->Any sort of decarbonizing diesel engine till 50K kms.Believe it or not the


SA during the third free service at 10K asked me to get the decarbonizing done and injector cleaning !! I asked him why? He replied -" Saaar, you drive inside the city maximum.You know how much pollution is there in the city and how much carbon will be present. So this carbon will go and sit inside the engine and cause blockage.If you drive more on highways ,you need not do it.But since you drive in city,the carbon in your engine needs to be cleaned! "I felt like slapping him tightly. I told him in the face to get his knowledge updated and not to try and fool customers like this!
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MASS are also trying these tricks like oil/petrol additives, fuel 'savers', decarbonisation, engine 'waxing', etc. I guess they do succeed in scamming 8/10 customers anyway.

And these are the reasons our roadside garages and petrol pump service stations are still flourishing.
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Engine Oil & Oil Filter Replace Rs.900

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Is this just the labor charges to get the oil and filter replaced??!!

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Is this just the labor charges to get the oil and filter replaced??!!
No, its the cost of the engine oil and oil filter.
Labor Charges are included in Periodic Maintenance Service(Rs.980) for all the standard things like changing the engine oil,oil filter,washing,coolant change,inspection etc.

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They charged me Air Intake Cleaning for 1025 !!!
I always take my service book along and ask the SA to not to do a single thing which is not present in the maintenance list prescribed by hyundai.I am pretty sure that this so called Air Intake Cleaning wont be present in the list.
BTW which is the car in question - i20 ? How many kms has it done ?

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i20 Sportz Petrol - has just done 5.5 kms !! Initially he told me injector/spark plug cleaning, throttle body cleaning, etc. but in the invoice all this was consolidated under air intake cleaning - engine flush and brake OCA was extra at 350 each. And yes wheel alignment/balancing/rotation is 1K.

This was my first paid service and I put too much faith in the dealer. Not anymore. I'd get everything done from outside except the paid maintenance for which I'll go to HASS.
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Perception is a very serious word with a different meaning for us, the Indians.

I hope Hyundai is listening and should be more reasonable with the service charges by having a check over its dealers and their performance.

Hyundai for instance is enjoying the good image it has got in the market thanks to the kind of marketing they have done and support/service they provide. So the general perception is 'hyundai cars are good to drive and own !'
Hence is the success ratio.

Once the perception changes to the unfavorable things can get difficult.
Ask the likes of Fiat,Ford and Skoda for instance.
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And yes wheel alignment/balancing/rotation is 1K.
Wow, is it not too high? How much weight did he added? But still, seems high to me.

Slightly off-topic: Trident charges more not just for Hyundai, but for GM cars too. Not sure how a part can differ in price between multiple authorized dealers!
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Periodic Maintenance Service Rs.980
Fuel Injector Cleaning Rs.295
Throttle Body Cleaning Rs.115
Tyre Rotation Rs.115 (Didn't get it done)
Break Pads Check/Clean/Replace Rs.215
Caliper Pin Greasing Rs.115
Engine Oil & Oil Filter Replace Rs.900
I don't have a Hyundai car, but typically the rates for C class segment cars are as follows:
Injector cleaning: Rs. 400 (100 per injector). At A.S.S. this would be around 500 - 600.
Caliper pin servicing: Rs. 100 per wheel maximum
Wheel alignment: Rs. 200 for cars such as Maruti Zen and Rs. 300 for cars such as City/ Cedia (both prices are at reputed tyre shops). A.S.S charges are about Rs. 100-150 more.
Regular servicing (engine oil change/ oil filter/ tightening nuts/ cleaning air filter) for a C segment car is around Rs. 700 (outside) to Rs. 850 (A.S.S)
I am surprised to see throttle body cleaning for *only* Rs. 115. It is typically more than Rs. 400.
Isn't brake servicing part of your regular service/ labour cost?
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I tried searching for a relevant thread for this, but I couldn't find anything. Maybe I missed it.. Anyways, so here goes.

I had given my i10 ASTA A/T for a paid service yesterday to Goa Hyundai. It was the 4th service.

I mentioned to the service engineer that it was a routine service, just oil change and the basic cleaning processes. Sometime later in the day, he called me and informed that the brake lamp switch is faulty, and needs to be replaced, costing Rs.650/-.

When I collected the car in the evening, the total charge came to Rs.4506/-. Here is the breakup.

Engine Oil - 814
Consumable - 154
Injector Cleaner - 310
Engine Flush - 310
Additive - 337
Switch Assembly Stop Lamp - 446
Filter Assembly Engine Oil - 74
Grease Caliper Guide Rod - 144

Labour & Services
Brake Cleaned - 275
Wheel Balancing - 300
Wheel Alignment - 235
Periodic Maintainance Service - 690
Switch Assembly Stop Lamp - 61

I don't know whether these rates are right, whether all of this is even necessary. Could some experts kindly throw some light on this? Is this too expensive?

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Thanks a lot for that link. I wonder how did I miss that.. Explains a lot of things..
The problem is, at least I am happy with the way the car is running, and without any niggles, and hence I am still reluctant to go away from the A.S.S. and give it to someone local..
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