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Old 21st March 2012, 12:43   #61
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Decision on diesel engine plant at Gurgaon in 2 months: Maruti Suzuki


"After the Budget spared diesel tax,we really need to take a quick decision on how to increase the production of diesel cars. At the moment we are constrained by limited supply of the engines.
So we need to make diesel engines on our own and we need to take a decision within a month or two," Maruti Suzuki India Managing Director Shinzo Nakanishitold.
With demand for diesel cars increasing SPIL is increasing its diesel engine capacity to 3 lakh units per annum from 2.4 lakh units. Moreover, MSI will also get one lakh diesel engines a year from Fiat, which has already started since January this year."

Decision on diesel engine plant at Gurgaon in 2 months: Maruti Suzuki - The Economic Times
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Hello,

Won't there be some difference because the two factories use different machines?

As Mr.Sridhar-V has pointed out, Fiat factory uses some brand of machine which is highly reputed. What if Maruti does not use the same machinery at its plant?

Ideally : no difference

Practically : there will be difference

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I agree, Fiat engine is Fiat engine, getting original engine from original manufacturer is always good and better. As you are getting the actual stuff.

Maruti is making the same engine in its factory and selling under DDIS branding but it's not a Fiat engine but a Maruti made engine. Quality wise it would be good,but is not the original engine and is made by Maruti not Fiat.

So anyone who buys a car with Fiat engine sure would have some satisfaction and advantage in getting the original Fiat engine under their hood.

But how to find out or know. I am sure the Fiat engine would have some specific markings and details on it, which would differentiate it from the Maruti manufactured engines. So if you are buying a swift and you get a fiat engine, consider yourself lucky ...
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Default Re: Maruti seals deal with Fiat to source 100,000 diesel engines per year

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I agree, Fiat engine is Fiat engine, getting original engine from original manufacturer is always good and better. As you are getting the actual stuff.

Maruti is making the same engine in its factory and selling under DDIS branding but it's not a Fiat engine but a Maruti made engine. Quality wise it would be good,but is not the original engine and is made by Maruti not Fiat.
Original engine and duplicate engine? Hahaha. Good joke! Maruti has got the license and technology to build the DDIS engine.
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Default Re: Maruti seals deal with Fiat to source 100,000 diesel engines per year

Intellectual property rights in the DDIS engine are owned by Fiat and General Motors in the ratio 50:50. Till some time back, GM had over 20% stake in Suzuki. Suzuki produces the engine under license granted not only by Fiat but also by GM. So it is not quite correct to constantly refer to the engine as a Fiat engine.

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ITALY/US: Fiat secures $2 billion from GM as ties are severed
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This related thread is closed so posting it here.

Maruti to set up Rs 1,700-cr diesel plant in Gurgaon

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The country's largest car maker Maruti Suzuki India today said it will invest Rs 1,700 crore to set up a diesel engine plant, with a total annual production capacity of three lakh units, at its Gurgaon facility by 2014.
Source : Maruti diesel plant in Gurgaon

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Default Re: Maruti seals deal with Fiat to source 100,000 diesel engines per year

The deal (expiring in 2015) is reportedly being extended for another three years.
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Maruti produces 300,000 engines in Manesar. It has also set up a diesel engine plant in Gurgaon, which will make additional 150,000 units of Maruti’s indigenously developed 800cc diesel engine, which is likely to power the company’s latest Celerio model and a mini-truck to be introduced in early 2015, one of the four people cited above said.


“Demand for diesel cars has fallen, but if you look at the demand for Maruti’s diesel cars, it does not have its own capacity to meet that requirement,” said one of the four people cited above...

“Diesel cars will continue to be in favour, given the price gap with petrol and better fuel efficiency,” said Puneet Gupta, principal analyst at sales and market research firm IHS Automotive. Moreover, given the demand swings, it makes better sense for Maruti to source the engines rather than invest in creating its own capacity, Gupta added.
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The 1.3L diesel motor powers 5 cars from the Maruti stable - the Ritz, Swift, Dzire, Ertiga and the SX4. Although, Tata and Chevrolet also source the Fiat 1.3L Multijet Diesel engine, it is Maruti's sheer sales volumes that have helped make this engine 'India's National Engine'.

The difference in terms of sale numbers of petrol and diesel cars is reducing significantly, owing to the fact that diesel prices might be completely deregulated by December, 2014; hence, the gap between the petrol and diesel prices is likely to diminish. However, Maruti still remains confident about the market demand for diesel cars, hence, have extended its agreement with Fiat.

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However, Maruti still remains confident about the market demand for diesel cars, hence, have extended its agreement with Fiat.
Wish they source the 1.6L MJD for the Ciaz, S-Cross and Grand Vitara (if launched) and a Sport version for the Swift.

I know I am expecting too much no harm in dreaming.

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