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Old 17th December 2011, 13:46   #121
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OT: You have read my mind correctly. I'm juggling between the Fiesta and the Linea. Completely confused on which one to go for.
Considering the Ford's stupid pricing of the Fiesta and the not so premium interiors I guess Linea makes a strong case for itself
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I was passing by the Fiat plant at Ranjangaon last evening and was hoping to see some of these new Linea's & Punto's. Was not lucky enough, but did see a test Punto outside the plant with roof rails - no other difference was visible from the outside and I could not look inside. It looked quite nice, and could possible be one of the cosmetic changes on the Punto.

I have also heard the new gear box rumours, and about it having a 6th ratio as well. I so wish they are true !
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The last I heard, the pricing would increase in the rage of 45-55K across the range.
If the price increase is 45-55K, then I have only one word for it - suicide. Ideally, Fiat should revamp the interiors and maybe add some new features at the same price point or for maybe 10K extra.
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If the price increase is 45-55K, then I have only one word for it - suicide. Ideally, Fiat should revamp the interiors and maybe add some new features at the same price point or for maybe 10K extra.
from January many companies are increasing prices. Lets wait n watch
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If the price increase is 45-55K, then I have only one word for it - suicide. Ideally, Fiat should revamp the interiors and maybe add some new features at the same price point or for maybe 10K extra.
+1 to this. At the state Fiat is in now, its better they offer a more VFM car at the current price point, to grab market share from rivals. Increasing the price by almost 50k, will surely mean disaster.
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I have got some updates on the so called facelift . Dealership training has already started and the TD vehicles are expected to be at the dealership by the end of this month. Thought I cannot guarantee on the reliability of the source, here are the key highlights of the update.

- No changes planned on Punto (not even beige interiors).
- No gearbox changes.
- Linea 1.4 Fire and MJD will only undergo the changes.
- Linea's GC will be increased to 185 mm.
- There will be only 3 variants on Linea (Active, Dynamic, Emotion).
- 36 new features are going to be added to Linea including rain sensing Wipers, leather seats, 16" wheels, etc.,
- Linea Active and Dynamic will have 15" wheels and Emotion would have 16".
- New features like Rain sensing wipers will be available from the base variant itself.
- Linea MJD Emotion may cost 9.5L Ex-showroom Chennai (Will close to 11L OTR).
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- No changes planned on Punto (not even beige interiors).
- No gearbox changes.
- Linea 1.4 Fire and MJD will only undergo the changes.
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- Linea MJD Emotion may cost 9.5L Ex-showroom Chennai (Will close to 11L OTR).
Cant believe they are not doing anything about Punto. Atleast they could have changed the beige interior, just for the sake of it. Is Fiat India happy to sell Punto in just 3-digits figure??

If price for top model is 9.7L ES, then probably all of us waiting for face-lifted Linea are wasting our time IMO. Suddenly we have better cars at lower price waiting eagerly for us e.g. Vento,Rapid etc

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Cant believe they are not doing anything about Punto. Atleast they could have changed the beige interior, just for the sake of it. Is Fiat India happy to sell Punto in just 3-digits figure??

If price for top model is 9.7L ES, then probably all of us waiting for face-lifted Linea are wasting our time IMO. Suddenly we have better cars at lower price waiting eagerly for us e.g. Vento,Rapid etc
I wish whatever update I got from a source become false. 11L OTR for Linea will be a disaster for Fiat. But, one good thing I heard is that ABS/Airbag may be offered on all the 3 variants. Let us wait and see till 03rd Jan.
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Without an increase in the Engine specification i.e. an upgradation to 1.6 MJD, if FIAT goes for a price increase, it would be fatal...!

Lenia is already stuffed with features and how much they will add on to it. Interior upgrade, increase in GC, a better music system would be a welcome change though.

But, I would say, any price increase in the range of 50K to 1 lac will only be justified with a change of Heart. If such a thing happens, and the OTR comes to even 11 or 11.5 lacs also for the top variant coupled with opening of exclusive showrooms for the FIAT at least in major cities will do wonders and we will get to see magic numbers of Lenia's on the road
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Today, happened to meet one of the person who attended the Dealership Training. Fiat has made it clear that the Jan'2012 models will be refreshed models and not Facelift. Major facelift will happen by end of 2012.

- 185 MM of GC for Linea is true. This is going to happen with 16" wheels and new suspension setup.
- Punto will also get GC upgrade and no other additional features like Linea. Punto 1.4 will have 195 mm and MJD will have 185 mm.
- Punto Dynamic will have ABS alone and Linea Dynamic will have ABS and Airbags.
- Linea will get new shade - A Blue shade that we see in the Fascination Advert.
- According to this person, launch may happen after 15th Jan. Again, not sure. Training did take place last week and this person whom I spoke to has attended the training.

Note:- There are also high chances that Fiat may launch Bravo thru the CBU route in Jan'2012.

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ok, now it is more or less confirmed that the GC is 185mm, how could this make a difference to the handling? t-bph experts please give your opinion. i hope this higher GC does not snatch away one of one of fiat's strengths ie handling.
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The GC figure of 185MM is completely wrong. Even the Scorpio has a GC of 180MM and 185MM GC for the Linea would only mean 'DISASTER' if its true!
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The GC figure of 185MM is completely wrong. Even the Scorpio has a GC of 180MM and 185MM GC for the Linea would only mean 'DISASTER' if its true!
Why should it be a disaster? IIRC Ford Fusion had similar GC.
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Without an increase in the Engine specification i.e. an upgradation to 1.6 MJD, if FIAT goes for a price increase, it would be fatal...!

Lenia

numbers of Lenia's
I completely concur with Keralite; the FIAT's should have been released with the 1.6 mjd from day 1.

You have misspelled Linea twice. Flying fingers or wholly intentional.
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Why should it be a disaster? IIRC Ford Fusion had similar GC.
The Fusion was not really a sedan! A higher GC possibly affects the dynamics of a car with handling and I dont know how much that would matter in the Linea which is excellent in this department. The 185MM just doesnt sound right to me!
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