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Old 17th January 2012, 18:15   #331
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EX with ABS/EBD is a good news. Its a good combination EX 4X4 + ABS !

Btw, the existing Safari has the hinges outside. However, the top one is covered by a small railing piece that connects to the Spare Wheel in tail gate.
I dont remember the lower one, lazy to get out to see how it is

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A no-frills 4x4 LXa with ABS/EBD would be the BEST! No painted skirts to get scratched either. Roof AC too preferably (or it can always be fitted if needed). What else is there in the EX? Fogs, rear wipe/demister, and a CD player? And for this they charge 2 Lacs more .... !!!

The old Safari has both hinges covered bro. And pretty neatly too.

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Default G85 6 speed automatic gearbox for Tata Safari Storme - in future

I dont think anyone has mentioned in this thread that TATA might introduce the new G85 six speed automatic gearbox in Safari Storme along with Aria & Xenon. Here's the news link -
Auto News India - Tata Safari Storme could get G85 6 speed automatic gearbox in future | CarDekho.com
- Not sure about the authenticity of the news. Anyone who has heard or read similar updates at the Expo may please testify.

I have a deep hunch that TATA is frantically working behind the scene to spruce up the Storme. The Auto Show display could well have been a platform to showcase this 'pseudo'-new product (albeit half baked) in flesh, gather reviews/comments & then work on those to release what the market demands.

If this is indeed the case, I might be among the first ones to be in queue to lay my stakes on & replace my aging workhorse - 2005 Scorpio.

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I have a deep hunch that TATA is frantically working behind the scene to spruce up the Storme. The Auto Show display could well have been a platform to showcase this pseudo-new product in flesh, gather reviews/comments & then work on those to release what the market demands.
In that case, to any TATA boffin reading this, sir kindly please give option of front facing seats for 3rd row. It is long overdue and the extra sales can surely not hurt (since you've already compromised on the image)!
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The old Safari has both hinges covered bro. And pretty neatly too.
Yes, its covered, but not kept inside the tail gate unlike how its in Ford Endeavour.

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Default Re: Tata Safari Storme : Auto Expo 2012

Here is the spec for Safari Storme.

Unfortunately tires are going to be R16.

Ground clearance is 200 mm and not 195 as stated earlier.

All other details are same, more or less known on this forum. No information on the models.

SAFARISTORME-2.pdf

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Sigh! What is wrong with TATA's designers and engineers?

Why did they have to modify the simple yet butch looks of the previous gen Safari and transform into an ugly looking SUV (the front looks like some Chinese make SUV now and the rear is even more difficult to digest!)

I really used to like the previous generation Safari for its looks (though it did look a bit obese ) and road presence (I still have kept those 'Reclaim your life' TVC videos in my cell!)

Looks like manufacturers these days in process of giving an upgrade (or facelift) are actually downgrading the products by spoiling their original looks [same applicable for the New Toyota Fortuner, New Toyota Innova].
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Default Re: Tata Safari Storme : Auto Expo 2012

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Here is the spec for Safari Storme.

Unfortunately tires are going to be R16.

Ground clearance is 200 mm and not 195 as stated earlier.

All other details are same, more or less known on this forum. No information on the models.

Attachment 873352
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More than the tire size, its the rear "Drum Brake" that I am not very happy about it. They should have got Disc Brakes all around !
Also, the tire size profile remains the same, at least the bigger 255/65 [or 70?] from Bridgestone.

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More than the tire size, its the rear "Drum Brake" that I am not very happy about it. They should have got Disc Brakes all around !
Huh?? But the press release clearly says "disc brakes on all wheels"! Will that be only restricted to the top variant? Or am I missing something?

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Huh?? But the press release clearly says "disc brakes on all wheels"! Will that be only restricted to the top variant? Or am I missing something?

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More than the tire size, its the rear "Drum Brake" that I am not very happy about it. They should have got Disc Brakes all around !
Also, the tire size profile remains the same, at least the bigger 255/65 [or 70?] from Bridgestone.

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Spec says "DIH (Drum in Hat), Single pot". This implies its a disc brake. I hope this clarifies.
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More than the tire size, its the rear "Drum Brake" that I am not very happy about it. They should have got Disc Brakes all around !
Also, the tire size profile remains the same, at least the bigger 255/65 [or 70?] from Bridgestone.

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IIRC, Strome gets 17inch

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Huh?? But the press release clearly says "disc brakes on all wheels"! Will that be only restricted to the top variant? Or am I missing something?

Tata Motors : Media : Press Releases

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The link posted by deepaktpatil doesnt look official ( doesnt have logo. copyrights etc ) . I think that was made in a hasty and hence missed out some stuff.


Lets pray its so
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Spec says "DIH (Drum in Hat), Single pot". This implies its a disc brake. I hope this clarifies.
If that's the case, why isn't that "implicit" nomenclature used for the "Brakes - Front" item too? That clearly says "Ventilated disc brake, Twin Pot".

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If that's the case, why isn't that "implicit" nomenclature used for the "Brakes - Front" item too? That clearly says "Ventilated disc brake, Twin Pot".

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Drum in Hat Brakes | TRW Automotive
Robert Bosch GmbH - Drum In Hat

'The Drum in Hat (DIH) is a drum brake that is integrated in a caliper at the rear axle. It provides the parking brake function.'


Check this

http://www.******************.com/fo...isc-brake.html

This type has a disc & caliper for service brake and traditional drum & shoe for parking brake. Drum & disc are a single unit. Hydraulic fluid operated disc service brakes & mechanically operated drum parking brakes.
Pros:
-Parking brakes can be used as emergency brakes in case of service brake failure
-No effect of disc & pad heating & cooling
Cons:
-More cost
-More mass
-Wider wheel bearings to accommodate the increase in length (drum)

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The link posted by deepaktpatil doesnt look official ( doesnt have logo. copyrights etc ) . I think that was made in a hasty and hence missed out some stuff.

Lets pray its so
jkdas, I have taken it from Tata Motors website. Below is the link, you need navigate to passenger vehicles tab.

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If that's the case, why isn't that "implicit" nomenclature used for the "Brakes - Front" item too? That clearly says "Ventilated disc brake, Twin Pot".

Cheers,
Vikram
Dont know why Tata is doing this. They should be using simple jargon which can be understood by their day to day customers.

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jkdas is spot on. This configuration is regularly used by heavier SUVs worldwide for better stopping power on steep inclines - whether parked or in motion. It amplifies clamping/stopping force manifold and is also a fail-safe mechanism in emergencies. Think of it like a normal drum brake hub (the "hat crown") with an extended rim acting like a rotor (the "hat brim").

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Default Re: Tata Safari Storme : Auto Expo 2012

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Here is the spec for Safari Storme.

Unfortunately tires are going to be R16.

Ground clearance is 200 mm and not 195 as stated earlier.

All other details are same, more or less known on this forum. No information on the models.

Attachment 873352
The specifications are incomplete.It does not give idea about front and rear track.To my certain information the front track is now 1570 mm.
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