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Old 18th April 2013, 11:56   #286
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Some points I noted from ACI review (from usability and practicality point of view) are:
1. rear-wheel drive - it should have better handling on the curves of highways than, say, Ertiga
2. middle row seats don't flip forward - this must be a first for a car with 3 rows of seats. It might work well in China, where the average height of humans is lesser. Let's see how it works here!
3. absence of dead pedal
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Some points I noted from ACI review (from usability and practicality point of view) are:
1. rear-wheel drive - it should have better handling on the curves of highways than, say, Ertiga
2. middle row seats don't flip forward - this must be a first for a car with 3 rows of seats. It might work well in China, where the average height of humans is lesser. Let's see how it works here!
3. absence of dead pedal
Middle row seats dont flip forward in Ertiga too isnt it ? They just slide providing a narrow access to 3rd row !!

I dont think average height of Chinese is lesser compared to Indians anymore. It should be similar. But I bet Average width will definitely be much much lesser allowing them to squeeze between middle row and settle in the 3rd row
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Was flipping some posts and saw that the production has begun already. So when it is available for booking really?

On the vehicle itself, it actually looks like a modified Xylo if one sees from the side and rear profile. Wonder which motor is being used, will it be the 1.3D of the Sail Sedan or of the Tavera or may be both.

It may just cannibalize the sales of Tavera and if the package is right overshadow the Xylo which seems to be its prime competitor. The private segment may still go for the practical and compact Ertiga which may not see any erosing with this launch.
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Was flipping some posts and saw that the production has begun already. So when it is available for booking really?

On the vehicle itself, it actually looks like a modified Xylo if one sees from the side and rear profile. Wonder which motor is being used, will it be the 1.3D of the Sail Sedan or of the Tavera or may be both.

It may just cannibalize the sales of Tavera and if the package is right overshadow the Xylo which seems to be its prime competitor. The private segment may still go for the practical and compact Ertiga which may not see any erosing with this launch.
It seems like the 1.3D of the sail sedan, tuned for real wheel drive. generating 73BHP. Thats what they call smartech isnt it ?

I am wondering if this engine is able to pull the vehicle. Ertiga has 90BHP engine and people have felt it to be laggy in city conditions. Will this be worse than that ?
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ACI has done a review on the upcoming Chevy Enjoy. Check this link -
http://www.autocarindia.com/Review/3...est-drive.aspx

Finally some clear Exterior & Interior pics

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Unfortunately, no info is given on the boot space, with all 3 rows up.

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ACI has done a review on the upcoming Chevy Enjoy. Check this link -
http://www.autocarindia.com/Review/3...est-drive.aspx

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Thanks Varun .

Did someone notice that the MUV rides on (175/70R14LT 95/93S) Light Truck tyres, much like the Nissan Evalia.

ACI have also commented on he interiors being cheap make (being Chinese), but overall the vehicle is quite spacious, even in 3rd row.
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It seems like the 1.3D of the sail sedan, tuned for real wheel drive. generating 73BHP. Thats what they call smartech isnt it ?

I am wondering if this engine is able to pull the vehicle. Ertiga has 90BHP engine and people have felt it to be laggy in city conditions. Will this be worse than that ?
And plus no MSIL kind of n/w, the bland interiors & lack of features compared to Ertiga (ACI says they tested the top end model), how does this sell? But looks like it does have an airy cabin!

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Thanks Varun .

Did someone notice that the MUV rides on (175/70R14LT 95/93S) Light Truck tyres, much like the Nissan Evalia.

ACI have also commented on he interiors being cheap make (being Chinese), but overall the vehicle is quite spacious, even in 3rd row.
And a GC of 161mm ? is that a Typo ? With a long wheelbase and 161mm it is bound to get stuck on those stupid road humps isnt it ?
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There is a review up on Top Gear as well here: http://www.topgear.com/india/chevrol...njoy/itemid-51

Wonder how they''ll price it. In line with the Sedan should draw some interest

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And a GC of 161mm ? is that a Typo ? With a long wheelbase and 161mm it is bound to get stuck on those stupid road humps isnt it ?
I believe there could be a typo mistake, as in one para they mention the Diesel as rated 76 bhp, when the spec-sheet below rates the Diesel mill @ 76 bhp. Let the brochures come out, but, the low ground clearance coupled with softly tuned suspension could mean regular bottoming out at the speed-breakers across cities.
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While ACI says it has 14" tyres, topGear mentions 15" - Their reviewing standards really appall me, and the kind of pics ACI put up?

Earlier i used to think there are a number of sites like team-bhp for reviews - but i have to give it to our reviewers - they are the best - most detail oriented ones of the lot!
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An insider from GM told me the tyres are 14 inchers and the details 175/70 R14 are indeed true.

Ertiga comes with 15-inchers in both the Steel and Alloy-wheel equipped variants.
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I liked the color of the interiors, Quality, Fit and finish Cannot be determined by looking at the pics. We all know its chinese But looks better than that of Sail twins.
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Hormazd Sorabjee has tweeted that Chevy Enjoy would be launched in May'2013.

Besides this thread, there is hardly any excitement about the Enjoy. Does that indicate the response the car would get from general public as well when launched?
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From the AutoCar Review, important notes:

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Monocoque Chassis: This automatically means you can have more space for the passengers. Slipping into the seats after opening the big doors is dead easy, they are almost at the perfect height, and once inside, legroom and headroom on both rows is plentiful.

GM and Chevrolet went to great lengths to get a diesel version here to India - without it there frankly wouldnt be a project worth considering. And all things considered, it has done a good job.

The engine feels eager and willing to rev as soon as you take off, and the few nagging doubts you have about the engine being too small in capacity in comparison with the bulk of the car are soon dispelled. There is even less lag than on GMs earlier version of the engine and it feels like you are on boost from 1600rpm onwards, which is fantastic.

The gearbox has a light action and gears slot in easily, but the long throws and loose feel sloppy. The only major irritant is the considerable amount of lash and vibration you get from the propeller shaft at around 1200rpm when off the throttle.

An area where the Enjoy did impress was ride and handling. The suspension setup is pretty soft, so bump absorption is quite good. Low-speed ride is particularly cushy and the suspension also works pretty noiselessly over rough patches.

Its also pretty nice to drive, in urban traffic, on an open highway and surprisingly on a twisty road as well. The steering is nice and light and once you nudge the Enjoy into a corner it is pretty accomplished at handling the constant twists and turns of a ghat road as well.
I suppose they(Chevy India) have done a commendable job. Although the product itself has a Chinese stain, Chevy didn't half bake it here. The fact that they had gone to great lengths to get it diesel-ed although it is not available in China, proves that. I'm glad Autocar didn't say the interior is really Cheap/half baked. They say it is unimpressive, so may be it's okay. And regarding it's handling and Stability, I'm pleasantly surprised. I really hope this thing really turns out well for Chevy. They have been trying hard for a decent success in India.
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