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Old 25th January 2012, 22:09   #1
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Dear BHPians. I need some advice ASAP with reference to the sale of my car

The car is a Haryana Registered car and is currently with me in Bangalore. I have now sold the car in Bangalore (to a resident of Bangalore) and need help on how I need to go about closing out the RTO and transfer formalities.

The first step is obvisouly to close the loan, as soon as the buyer gives me the money. Once done, I will get an NOC from the bank. Now the next steps are what I want clarity on.

I would have to get an NOC from Haryana right? How do I go about this process and I do not have time to go to Gurgaon now. Any idea on how long with this process take. Time is of the essence for me.

Next up, how do I go about the registration formalities in bangalore. And how much road tax do I have to pay, do I need to do re-registration

During this process, where can I notify that I have sold the car. Can this be done at Haryana RTO level or should I get the NOC from there and then do it in Bangalore

Look forward to help on this issue. Thanks.

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Hey bro, I also tried to find out about selling a HR registered car in Bangalore and this is what i was told :

First thing you need is the NOC from Haryana RTO that you are moving out of the state. As you dont have time and the car is already out of there you might need to have someone get hold of an agent and see if it is possible to get this done from here.
Then you need to get the loan closed, get the NOC from the Bank and with all those documents approach the RTO in Karnataka and complete the formalities.

I am not a 100% sure but this is what was told to me by a couple of guys who sold their DL/HR cars here.

Hope it helps.

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You can sell your car at carnation auto.They buy cars from that are registered in other states. This is the address
CARNATION AUTO-19/2,Narayanswamy Buildings, Kadubisanahalli,Outer Ring Road, Marathahalli,Bangalore-560087
Contact Nos.-080-25639973
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Dream Catcher , the loan to be closed first , Denotification done on RC and then NOC to be taken from present registered RTO to the would be state RTO .
you need not change the CAR on to your name , it can directly be changed on to the new owner , sadly you have to pay flat 10% of the CAR invoice value or present 10% value if the car is still in production , there is a variation if the car is older than 18 months or not ( this part varies between states) , If you have commited you will get NOC and pay the bangalore tax from your pocket , It may not be a wise IDEA , the new owner gets profited as he gets KA car at lesser price ( that would be the only motivating factor in such kind of deals for new owner ) , what make was it any way and what price you sold if can be disclosed , food of thought for all .
you can get the 40% of HR life tax minimum if you still have 50% life of car left ( 7 years from date of registration ) if you know right people and have a valid address in the leaving state .again depends which state .

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Hey bro, I also tried to find out about selling a HR registered car in Bangalore and this is what i was told :

First thing you need is the NOC from Haryana RTO that you are moving out of the state. As you dont have time and the car is already out of there you might need to have someone get hold of an agent and see if it is possible to get this done from here.
Then you need to get the loan closed, get the NOC from the Bank and with all those documents approach the RTO in Karnataka and complete the formalities.

I am not a 100% sure but this is what was told to me by a couple of guys who sold their DL/HR cars here.

Hope it helps.
If the car is going to stay in Bangalore getting a NOC from Haryana is a must. The car will not be registered unless you get a NOC. Even if you pay the Life time Road tax of the car, you can push it max for one year. After a max of one year you have to go for registration change.

This is the procedure i got to know from RTO Yeshwantpur just a week back when i visited for rerigistration of my 2 scooter.
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I would have to get an NOC from Haryana right? How do I go about this process and I do not have time to go to Gurgaon now. Any idea on how long with this process take. Time is of the essence for me.
I came across the below information from FAQs in http://rto.kar.nic.in/ which talks about on how to get NOC from other State being here, but not sure how far this will work.

Extract from FAQs in Transport Department

7. I Could not obtain NOC at the time of shifting of my vehicle, I have paid tax, and obtained change of address in the certificate of registration in Karnataka , Is there a way to obtain NOC from previous registering authority ?

Yes . You fill form CMVR 28 in quadruplicate with pencil print of the chassis no. on all the forms , and send form CMVR 28 in triplicate to the previous registering authority along with original registration certificate, Insurance, emission testing certificate BY RPAD. Keep the acknowledgement from the previous Registering authority for having received your application and the 4 th copy of NOC application safely . You will receive the NOC from the concerned Registering Authority.

8. If I don’t Receive the NOC , What I have to do ?

If you do not receive the NOC even after 30 days from the date of acknowledging your application, You can approach the RTO along with your 4 th copy of form CMVR 28 and acknowledgement and file a declaration giving details of your application for NOC and stating that

“ Neither I have received any reply from the concerned RTO nor my application has been rejected by them” .

In such cases Your application for Reassignment / Transfer of ownership will be considered.

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I sold my DL car in MH and got the entire work done through Automobile Association Of Upper India. It was worth every single paise of the Rs. 3500 odd that I paid to them for their annual membership as it rid me of all sorts of procedures and related head aches, I have not even factored in the value of the time saved.

I recommend that you get in touch with them or with their sister organisation in Bangalore, discuss your case with the appropriate Jhonny and let them handle this for you.

Automobile Association of Southern India - AASI
check out their services link

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Dear BHPians. I need some advice ASAP with reference to the sale of my car

The car is a Haryana Registered car and is currently with me in Bangalore. I have now sold the car in Bangalore (to a resident of Bangalore) and need help on how I need to go about closing out the RTO and transfer formalities.
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Loan needs to be closed first, then Hypothitication needs to be removed from the HR RTO, only then they would issue a NOC for state transfer.

Once you have NOC from HR then its easy to get it registered in BLR, Pay Road tax and apply for the new number, and get it in 45days.

The whole process can easily take anywhere between 3-6 months.
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I have an HR registered swift in Bangalore and am planning to keep it till this Oct-Nov once i clear the loan and take it back Gurgaon and sell it at a Maruti True Value. It seems way more simpler and less time consuming and at the end of all expenses would give me the same value of the car - if not more. (These are my estimates)
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May I suggest becoming a member of AASI and let them deal with the paperwork. They do everything legally and you wouldn't have to run from pillar to post in the RTO.

They are very professional in their dealing and I have been extremely satisfied with their services.

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First thing you need is the NOC from Haryana RTO that you are moving out of the state. As you dont have time and the car is already out of there you might need to have someone get hold of an agent and see if it is possible to get this done from here.
Then you need to get the loan closed, get the NOC from the Bank and with all those documents approach the RTO in Karnataka and complete the formalities.

Hope it helps.
Thank you Sammyboy

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You can sell your car at carnation auto.They buy cars from that are registered in other states. This is the address
CARNATION AUTO-19/2,Narayanswamy Buildings, Kadubisanahalli,Outer Ring Road, Marathahalli,Bangalore-560087
Contact Nos.-080-25639973
crmhead.marathahalli@carnation.in
This is very useful information. Tried calling them yesterday, but could not get through. WIll try again just to find out some details

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Dream Catcher , the loan to be closed first , Denotification done on RC and then NOC to be taken from present registered RTO to the would be state RTO .
you need not change the CAR on to your name , it can directly be changed on to the new owner , sadly you have to pay flat 10% of the CAR invoice value or present 10% value if the car is still in production , there is a variation if the car is older than 18 months or not ( this part varies between states) , If you have commited you will get NOC and pay the bangalore tax from your pocket , It may not be a wise IDEA , the new owner gets profited as he gets KA car at lesser price ( that would be the only motivating factor in such kind of deals for new owner ) , what make was it any way and what price you sold if can be disclosed , food of thought for all .
you can get the 40% of HR life tax minimum if you still have 50% life of car left ( 7 years from date of registration ) if you know right people and have a valid address in the leaving state .again depends which state .
Actually, this was the only way I could sell the car, else no one would be willing to buy it. There were several potential buyers who said they are ok with driving it as is, but I want to ensure that I complete all formalities and do the transfer.

In terms of getting back life tax from HR, I am not worried as the tax there was very very minimal and not worth getting back at all.

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If the car is going to stay in Bangalore getting a NOC from Haryana is a must. The car will not be registered unless you get a NOC. Even if you pay the Life time Road tax of the car, you can push it max for one year. After a max of one year you have to go for registration change.
Thank you vinukm

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I came across the below information from FAQs in Transport Department which talks about on how to get NOC from other State being here, but not sure how far this will work.

Extract from FAQs in Transport Department

7. I Could not obtain NOC at the time of shifting of my vehicle, I have paid tax, and obtained change of address in the certificate of registration in Karnataka , Is there a way to obtain NOC from previous registering authority ?

Yes . You fill form CMVR 28 in quadruplicate with pencil print of the chassis no. on all the forms , and send form CMVR 28 in triplicate to the previous registering authority along with original registration certificate, Insurance, emission testing certificate BY RPAD. Keep the acknowledgement from the previous Registering authority for having received your application and the 4 th copy of NOC application safely . You will receive the NOC from the concerned Registering Authority.

8. If I don’t Receive the NOC , What I have to do ?

If you do not receive the NOC even after 30 days from the date of acknowledging your application, You can approach the RTO along with your 4 th copy of form CMVR 28 and acknowledgement and file a declaration giving details of your application for NOC and stating that

“ Neither I have received any reply from the concerned RTO nor my application has been rejected by them” .

In such cases Your application for Reassignment / Transfer of ownership will be considered.
This is very useful. Will follow this process if needed.

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I sold my DL car in MH and got the entire work done through Automobile Association Of Upper India. It was worth every single paise of the Rs. 3500 odd that I paid to them for their annual membership as it rid me of all sorts of procedures and related head aches, I have not even factored in the value of the time saved.

I recommend that you get in touch with them or with their sister organisation in Bangalore, discuss your case with the appropriate Jhonny and let them handle this for you.

Automobile Association of Southern India - AASI
check out their services link

AAUI
Thank you Khoj. This is splendid information and I am calling them up straight away. This is extremely useful.

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Loan needs to be closed first, then Hypothitication needs to be removed from the HR RTO, only then they would issue a NOC for state transfer.

Once you have NOC from HR then its easy to get it registered in BLR, Pay Road tax and apply for the new number, and get it in 45days.

The whole process can easily take anywhere between 3-6 months.
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I have an HR registered swift in Bangalore and am planning to keep it till this Oct-Nov once i clear the loan and take it back Gurgaon and sell it at a Maruti True Value. It seems way more simpler and less time consuming and at the end of all expenses would give me the same value of the car - if not more. (These are my estimates)
Thank you

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May I suggest becoming a member of AASI and let them deal with the paperwork. They do everything legally and you wouldn't have to run from pillar to post in the RTO.

They are very professional in their dealing and I have been extremely satisfied with their services.

Automobile Association of Southern India - AASI
Thank you also. Very very useful



Thank you all for your responses. So, as I can gather, I have put down the steps below. And would also be helpful if the below doubts are cleared for me. Thanks in advance.

1. As soon as the cheque clears, I will hand over the car to the buyer
2. I will sign all the related documents, which I have mentioned below, as taken from GTOs thread

To hand over to the buyer:

1. Form No.28 - Application for N.O.C. and grant of certificate, if the buyer falls in another RTO’s jurisdiction (3 Originals). Format attached.
2. Form No.29 - Notice of transfer of ownership of vehicle (Original). Format attached.
3. Form No.30 - Report of transfer of ownership of vehicle (Original). Format attached.
4. Delivery note (Copy).
5. Registration certificate (Original).
6. RTO tax documents (Original).
7. Insurance policy (if included as part of the deal).
10. Service history.
11. Invoice of the car (if available, and in copy).
12. PUC certificate.

Finance NOC, if applicable:

Form No.35 - NOC from the Finance Company


(Question here: Does this have to be on a stamp paper or a regular printout?)

3. Next, I close out the loan and get an NOC from my bank.

4. Then I get NOC from Haryana RTO

5. Pay Road Tax in Bangalore

6. Do I transfer the car in the name of the new buyer in bangalore or can that be done in Haryana itself. Can the Haryana RTO register the car in the name of a bangalore buyer. I doubt right?

7. Is there any good agent who can help me with this in Gurgaon / Bangalore or should I go ahead with AAI or AASI

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7. Is there any good agent who can help me with this in Gurgaon / Bangalore or should I go ahead with AAI or AASI

Hey dreamcatcher,

Can you describe how you went about selling your car and if you have any advice for someone who'll be in the same boat as you are pretty soon?

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I have a Fiat Palio 1.2 ELPS (2001 model) having run around 52000 Kms.

Planning to replace it with a new car, but need to dispose the old one first. Car is in Bangalore having DL registration, KA road tax not paid; I have the NOC from Delhi - but it was issued 3 years ago. Talked to a used car dealer, but he is not ready to buy because of the above issues.

Any suggestions apart from what has been mentioned above? Driving/transporting it back to Delhi is not an option.
Has anyone gone through the process recently?
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I have a Fiat Palio 1.2 ELPS (2001 model) having run around 52000 Kms.

Planning to replace it with a new car, but need to dispose the old one first. Car is in Bangalore having DL registration, KA road tax not paid; I have the NOC from Delhi - but it was issued 3 years ago. Talked to a used car dealer, but he is not ready to buy because of the above issues.

Any suggestions apart from what has been mentioned above? Driving/transporting it back to Delhi is not an option.
Has anyone gone through the process recently?
If he has relatives in Delhi, he can send the car back in a truck (maruti's trucks go back empty and carry loads for cheap) and let them sell it off.
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