Swift -- The Latest Off Roader. - Team-BHP

bhogalrajnish · 31st March 2006, 18:55

Hi ,

Last week I got to drivre a friends Swift on a fairly rough patch of road near Shimla in Himachal . The car handles perfectly even on very rough road.
I have driven cars like Esteem , Icon and Palio on the same road a number of times but I would say that Swift has been the best till now.
I was able to hit 55Kph on a very rough road and the car was able to negociate turns and potholes really well . The rally based suspention comming into play .
The only thing that may have been better if it had a better ground clearence rest the car is a serious off roader. With some mods I beleave Swift can be a sucessful vehicle in the Indian rally scene.

Has any body else tried Swift on rough roads and what mods can be done to the car to incerase off road capabalities ??

veyron1 · 31st March 2006, 19:04

well, the swift IS entering the Indian rally scene soon, and we shall find out the authenticity of suzuki's claims of it's rally-heritage pretty soon; but considering the fact that the esteems ruled the roost for almost half a decade, i guess the swift might just repeat history; but you never know, what with stiff competition coming in from the other players too...

as for the swift's off-road capabilites, well, i would say it has a decently stiff suspension, and handles bad roads pretty nicely. but then, the indica is not that bad either...

as for tuning the swift's suspension, the car's still a newbie in the Indian tuning scene. wait for a few months, and you'll have all the aftermarket kits you need.

The Wolf · 31st March 2006, 21:05

Right from day one I have felt that swift is one car that wouldnt hesitate to take on rougher roads coz of its superb build quality...The car is heavy hence sits firm on the road, with stiffer suspension and rest I think this car is quite capable of holding the maruti-suzuki banner up high in the rally scene. I have this friend of mine who has 205 yokohama's on a swift and boy that car moves like as if its on a track even while high speed cornering. To strengthen the claims watch JWRC...

hellspawn · 2nd April 2006, 01:25

well it was meant to be a replacement for the suzuki ignis(i think...) and that meant it wud have to replace the ignis in the rally circuits as well.well last year in its debut in the rally scene in jwrc it managed to gather a lot of points.i just hope suzuki bring their swift sport with tthe 1.6ltr engine to india .....drool!!!!!

parijnan · 4th April 2006, 16:30

I don't know if it is the light steering. But I feel the best part of the Swift's dynamics compared to its rivals is the understeer setting in pretty late. You do not need to muscle the steering to get it to turn.

.anshuman · 4th April 2006, 17:44

1.the swift handles pretty good on bad roads but the suspension is not that great and the gets bumpy at times and as the car lacks the europeon solid build,i feel palio handles better on gravel and bumpy roads.

2.as the steering is not communicative as palio or ikon ,on bad roads the driver might not have as good idea of grip available.

but still swift is a good handler if there was a 1.6 available in swift it would have been the most desirable car this side of octavia turbo petrol.

mail4ajo · 4th April 2006, 18:07

You can try some of these mods on the swift:

Modified front and rear suspension
Roll cage
Fly by wire gear shifts
Add turbocharger
4x4 transmission -Dont know if this possible in India
Modified engine intake K&N advanced intake systems and power exhaust systems
Modify engine position. The engine can be relocated up to 20 mm from its original position and can be tilted up to 20° around the crankshaft

I did try some of these to my M800. It proved too costly, Abandoned half
way.

If all this call be incorporated, the Swift be a monster and will do great off road.

speedzak · 4th April 2006, 19:50

Swift was always a rough car!
Suzuki uses it for it's rallying activities and it has won quiet a few times too. The only gripe here is the build quality in Indian cars. It's not upto european versions. Even the Swifts sold in Gulf countries are far superior than the indian. And another joke for the day: Swift is sold with less features in our country and it's still expensive than the gulf version. Reason? Shall we say that we're more richer than those arabs?

jango · 4th April 2006, 19:58

[quote=speedzak] Swift is sold with less features in our country and it's still expensive than the gulf version. Reason? Shall we say that we're more richer than those arabs?[/quote]

You made me think twice !!

anarchist · 5th April 2006, 12:01

I was informed on the mods possible on the Swift from N1 Racing Equipment as below

For basic Stage 1 modifications

Free flow exhaust - Rs. 8000 with mild steel muffler and Rs. 10500 with Stainless Steel muffler
K&N kit - Rs. 6000
NGK Iridium plugs - Rs. 2700
Pivot Voltage stabilizer - Rs. 5000

Other mechanical modifications that are possible on the Swift

Head polishing and porting - Rs. 10000
Throttle body - Rs.. 2000
Piper Performance Cam - Rs. 15000 (on special order only)
Holley NOS kit with +50-75bhp boost - Rs. 36000
Clutchmasters stage 1 Clutch - Rs. 16000
ROSS Racing Forged Flat top pistons - Rs. 40000
Unpainted Suzuki SWIFT add-on kits for Rs. 12500

bhogalrajnish · 6th April 2006, 03:54

To add to all the mods I beleave strut braces should help.
Also how much will they cost.
About the ground clearence is there anything that can be done about it ? Dont want to put in the rubber struts -- they ruin the handelling i beleave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by anarchist

I was informed on the mods possible on the Swift from N1 Racing Equipment as below

For basic Stage 1 modifications

Free flow exhaust - Rs. 8000 with mild steel muffler and Rs. 10500 with Stainless Steel muffler
K&N kit - Rs. 6000
NGK Iridium plugs - Rs. 2700
Pivot Voltage stabilizer - Rs. 5000

Other mechanical modifications that are possible on the Swift

Head polishing and porting - Rs. 10000
Throttle body - Rs.. 2000
Piper Performance Cam - Rs. 15000 (on special order only)
Holley NOS kit with +50-75bhp boost - Rs. 36000
Clutchmasters stage 1 Clutch - Rs. 16000
ROSS Racing Forged Flat top pistons - Rs. 40000
Unpainted Suzuki SWIFT add-on kits for Rs. 12500

31st March 2006, 18:55	#1 (permalink)
bhogalrajnish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: delhi Posts: 85	Swift -- The Latest Off Roader. Hi , Last week I got to drivre a friends Swift on a fairly rough patch of road near Shimla in Himachal . The car handles perfectly even on very rough road. I have driven cars like Esteem , Icon and Palio on the same road a number of times but I would say that Swift has been the best till now. I was able to hit 55Kph on a very rough road and the car was able to negociate turns and potholes really well . The rally based suspention comming into play . The only thing that may have been better if it had a better ground clearence rest the car is a serious off roader. With some mods I beleave Swift can be a sucessful vehicle in the Indian rally scene. Has any body else tried Swift on rough roads and what mods can be done to the car to incerase off road capabalities ??

31st March 2006, 19:04	#2 (permalink)
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,283 View My Garage	well, the swift IS entering the Indian rally scene soon, and we shall find out the authenticity of suzuki's claims of it's rally-heritage pretty soon; but considering the fact that the esteems ruled the roost for almost half a decade, i guess the swift might just repeat history; but you never know, what with stiff competition coming in from the other players too... as for the swift's off-road capabilites, well, i would say it has a decently stiff suspension, and handles bad roads pretty nicely. but then, the indica is not that bad either... as for tuning the swift's suspension, the car's still a newbie in the Indian tuning scene. wait for a few months, and you'll have all the aftermarket kits you need. __________________ DAD

31st March 2006, 21:05	#3 (permalink)
The Wolf BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 703 View My Garage	Right from day one I have felt that swift is one car that wouldnt hesitate to take on rougher roads coz of its superb build quality...The car is heavy hence sits firm on the road, with stiffer suspension and rest I think this car is quite capable of holding the maruti-suzuki banner up high in the rally scene. I have this friend of mine who has 205 yokohama's on a swift and boy that car moves like as if its on a track even while high speed cornering. To strengthen the claims watch JWRC... __________________ *I cried coz I had no turbo, till I met a man who had no VTEC!!!*

2nd April 2006, 01:25	#4 (permalink)
hellspawn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: noida Posts: 1,494 View My Garage	well it was meant to be a replacement for the suzuki ignis(i think...) and that meant it wud have to replace the ignis in the rally circuits as well.well last year in its debut in the rally scene in jwrc it managed to gather a lot of points.i just hope suzuki bring their swift sport with tthe 1.6ltr engine to india .....drool!!!!! __________________ Kenwood KDC-X8529,IPaul 4.300,Image Dynamics CTX65cs,IDQ15 If you try,and succeed at first, try not to look astonished.

4th April 2006, 17:44	#6 (permalink)
.anshuman BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dlf V Gurgaon Posts: 927 View My Garage	1.the swift handles pretty good on bad roads but the suspension is not that great and the gets bumpy at times and as the car lacks the europeon solid build,i feel palio handles better on gravel and bumpy roads. 2.as the steering is not communicative as palio or ikon ,on bad roads the driver might not have as good idea of grip available. but still swift is a good handler if there was a 1.6 available in swift it would have been the most desirable car this side of octavia turbo petrol. __________________ Anshuman Bishnoi Hyundai Elantra CRDi 2.0 DIESEL Mahindra Scorpio VLX 2.2 DIESEL Suzuki Swift VDi ABS 1.3 DIESEL

4th April 2006, 16:30	#5 (permalink)
parijnan BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 72	I don't know if it is the light steering. But I feel the best part of the Swift's dynamics compared to its rivals is the understeer setting in pretty late. You do not need to muscle the steering to get it to turn.

4th April 2006, 18:07	#7 (permalink)
mail4ajo Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Thirupi Chennai - Sama Soodu Machi!! Posts: 1,100 View My Garage	You can try some of these mods on the swift: Modified front and rear suspension Roll cage Fly by wire gear shifts Add turbocharger 4x4 transmission -Dont know if this possible in India Modified engine intake K&N advanced intake systems and power exhaust systems Modify engine position. The engine can be relocated up to 20 mm from its original position and can be tilted up to 20° around the crankshaft I did try some of these to my M800. It proved too costly, Abandoned half way. If all this call be incorporated, the Swift be a monster and will do great off road.

4th April 2006, 19:50	#8 (permalink)
speedzak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cochin. Boring it is! I need to travel. Posts: 3,402 View My Garage	Swift was always a rough car! Suzuki uses it for it's rallying activities and it has won quiet a few times too. The only gripe here is the build quality in Indian cars. It's not upto european versions. Even the Swifts sold in Gulf countries are far superior than the indian. And another joke for the day: Swift is sold with less features in our country and it's still expensive than the gulf version. Reason? Shall we say that we're more richer than those arabs? __________________ If you want to see a rainbow you must first sit through the rain. (Hungarian Proverb)

4th April 2006, 19:58	#9 (permalink)
jango BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: B'lore & kotayam Posts: 524 View My Garage	[quote=speedzak] Swift is sold with less features in our country and it's still expensive than the gulf version. Reason? Shall we say that we're more richer than those arabs?[/quote] You made me think twice !!

5th April 2006, 12:01	#10 (permalink)
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Namma Bengaluru Posts: 239 View My Garage	I was informed on the mods possible on the Swift from N1 Racing Equipment as below For basic Stage 1 modifications Free flow exhaust - Rs. 8000 with mild steel muffler and Rs. 10500 with Stainless Steel muffler K&N kit - Rs. 6000 NGK Iridium plugs - Rs. 2700 Pivot Voltage stabilizer - Rs. 5000 Other mechanical modifications that are possible on the Swift Head polishing and porting - Rs. 10000 Throttle body - Rs.. 2000 Piper Performance Cam - Rs. 15000 (on special order only) Holley NOS kit with +50-75bhp boost - Rs. 36000 Clutchmasters stage 1 Clutch - Rs. 16000 ROSS Racing Forged Flat top pistons - Rs. 40000 Unpainted Suzuki SWIFT add-on kits for Rs. 12500 __________________ Be Quick or Be Dead Last edited by anarchist : 5th April 2006 at 12:02.

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