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Old 9th April 2012, 14:08   #1
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This thread is the sixth in the FEATURES comparison series. Following are the five other threads in which I have compared hatchbacks and sedans in various variants.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...atchbacks.html (Base variant FEATURES comparison of select Hatchbacks) (Base variant FEATURES comparison of select Hatchbacks)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...5-d-lakhs.html (FEATURES comparison of Hatchbacks : Rs.4.70-5.55 (P) & 5.70-6.55 (D) lakhs)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian-car-scene/116067-features-comparison-select-hatchbacks-sedans-rs-5-5-75-p-6-15-6-85-lakh.html

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...khs-range.html (FEATURES comparison of select Hatchbacks & Sedans in Rs 6-7 (P) & 7-8 (D) lakhs range)

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ice-range.html

The idea of this features comparison is to bring to light the features one gets higher-end variants of C segment sedans and the new segment of small/urban SUVs. Premium feel, long Features list & Space (passenger as well as boot) are important aspects when one is spending Rs. 8 lakhs plus on their prized possession. It is to be noted that most of the vehicle variants being compared here are sufficiently loaded with features such as Automatic Climate Control (except City & Duster), Electrically adjustable ORVMs, Music system, MID (Multi Information Display) with fuel economy / average & DTE display (except SX4 & Fiesta Style), Airbags for driver & front passenger, ABS, Alloy wheels (except Fiesta), Driver’s seat height adjust, Rear seat armrest (except EcoSport) and Rear defogger. Considering quite a few people are chauffeur driven in this segment, a comfortable rear seat and presence of rear A/C vents are a plus - the Linea, Sunny, Rapid and Vento have an edge with rear A/C vents.

I have broadly taken a price range (mentioned below) as the basis of the comparison. Even though prices do keep on changing, this is an exercise to apprise discerning consumers and fellow BHPians about the features available in variants of various models available in a price range. If I don’t take into account a price band then there is no end to the number of cars that can be considered in the comparison. I feel price plays an important deciding role in the sub-10 lakhs price bracket. Please note that all the prices have been taken from manufacturer’s website only and therefore we are not taking into account any prevailing discounts or offers. Also, all prices are ex-showroom Delhi as of Mar’13.

Price range of the select sedans & S/MUVs in petrol & diesel variants respectively:

1) Petrol: Between 8.00 & 8.50 lakhs
2) Diesel: Between 9.00 & 9.50 lakhs

Car Models whose Features are compared are as follows:

1) Honda City (1.5 P / 1.5 D)
2) Ford Fiesta (1.5 D only)
3) Fiat Linea (1.4 P-Tjet / 1.3 D)
4) Tata Indigo Manza (1.4 P / 1.3 D)
5) Skoda Rapid (1.6 P / 1.6 D)
6) Nissan Sunny (1.5 P / 1.5 D)
7) VW Vento (1.6 P / 1.6 D)
8) Hyundai Verna (1.6 P / 1.6 D)
9) Renault Duster (1.5 D only)
10) Ford EcoSport (1.5 P / 1.0 P / 1.5 D)
11) Maruti Suzuki Ertiga (1.4 P / 1.3 D)
12) Mahindra Scorpio (2.2 D only)

I have slipped in the Mahindra Scorpio, Renault Duster and the latest entrant - EcoSport as well. While one is a full-fledged SUV the other two are city SUVs and both are fairly credible options for those who don’t want a sedan but something to tower over them or to travel with the whole jing-bang. The quality of interiors and plastics is just about average in the Scorpio & Duster, but better in the EcoSport. But what the Scorpio has is “road presence” and one won’t be scared treading bad and waterlogged roads where sedans tread with caution their owners dread these moments. The Duster & Eco Sport have got street cred in a compact form. The other non-sedan in the comparison – Ertiga, offers the versatility as a people carrier or a spacious vehicle with compact dimensions as compared to the other MUVs (Innova, Sumo Grande, Tavera & Xylo) when 5 or less people are travelling. So, one can also get a SUV or a MUV for the price of a C segment sedan and this really makes the comparison interesting.

Queer pricing by Ford & VW has meant that Fiesta’s diesel only Style variant and Vento’s Comfortline variant are considered. On the other hand Hyundai has thrown in the EX version for its 1.4 litre diesel variant as well and thereby offering two competitive diesel variants in the Rs 9-10 lakh range. The inclusion of FIAT’s Linea and Ford’s Fiesta in this comparison is a borderline case, as even though the vehicles themselves are not bad products, their sales are relatively poor to warrant a whole-hearted inclusion. The 2013 refresh / variants rejig for both the cars have helped sales a bit, but in the long run it will not be easy to the stiff competition.

BHP and torque figures are mentioned to differentiate cars on the basis of power and torque on offer. I’ve taken boot space & wheelbase also into account in the comparison, as it is a quantifiable aspect (not so in the case of passenger space – leg/knee room) and an important consideration / feature for some while buying a car. Also, Euro NCAP rating is mentioned in order to give an idea of the safety rating of the car as judged by western standards. It is to be noted that the safety features with which the cars have been tested (Airbags, ABS with EBD, etc) might not be necessarily available in the models compared over here. But the body structure (with its impact absorbing crumple zones) and the structural/torsional rigidity remains the same across variants, so the ratings are included to give a fair idea of the amount of safety afforded to the passengers of the car.

Please note that this comparison is based solely on the criteria decided by me and it is my personal choice – rest the excel sheet mentions all facts only.

I’ve also colour-coded Unique features (purple), some Delight(ful) features (yellow) that tend to enhance the ownership experience to a small but heart-warming extent. Some example of Delightful features are:
· Proper knee-level A/C vents for rear passengers (City, Linea, Rapid, Vento & Scorpio)
· Auto-up/down & anti-pinch Power Windows (P/W) in all four doors and P/Ws open/close from remote (Rapid & Vento)
· Music system with USB & Bluetooth capability plus control on steering (City, Linea, Manza, Rapid, Duster, EcoSport)
· Programmable Follow-Me-Home headlights (Linea, Manza, EcoSport, Scorpio)
· Rear parking sensors (Vento, Verna, EcoSport)

Some examples of Unique features are:
· Cruise control (Fiesta)
· Auto headlights and wipers (Linea)
· Touch screen music system & SAT-NAV (Manza)
· True keyless entry with push button start feature (Sunny)
· Electrically foldable ORVM (Sunny)
· Rear disc brakes (also on Linea T-Jet) & doors unlock on impact (Verna)
· Voice activated controls & cooled glove-box (EcoSport)

I have also mentioned Glaring omissions (orange), which are features not present in one/two models but is there in all or most of the other models being compared* or a feature not available even though a car is not the cheapest**, or is a sort of cost-cutting measure in a certain way***.

*e.g. A not very big/cost intensive feature not present in the City or Fiesta (Style variant) is the Fuel Consumption/Average/Mileage and Distance to Empty display. Another example is the missing armrest between front seats on the, Sunny & Fiesta and no rear seat armrest in the EcoSport.

** e.g. No Automatic Climate Control (ACC) in City, Rapid, Duster & Scorpio.

*** e.g. The Fiesta, Sunny & Vento do without Bluetooth. Weedy 175/60 tyres in the City & Rapid

Following are some of the Features common across all the car variants considered in this comparison:
· Body-coloured bumpers
· Body coloured ORVM & door handles
· D/N IRVM
· Digital clock
· Low fuel warning lamp
· Internal boot release
· Internal fuel lid release
· Front & rear seatbelts (lap belt for middle passenger)
· Storage pocket in front doors
· Fabric insert on door trim
· Backlit power window switches on all doors
· Height adjustable front headrest
· Child lock on rear doors
· Headlight beam adjuster (required by the law)
· High mounted stop lamp (required by the law)

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Points of note for each car compared

Honda City

The 2014 Honda City is more of an evolution that revolution. Space was never an issue with the City, but Honda has further improved on this aspect with an increased wheelbase translating to better in-cabin space, as well as a slightly bigger boot. Overall it is a mixed bag with a host of features thrown-in, which I must say is more a result of healthy competition rather than Honda’s own choice. Till recently the City came without segment standard features such as a multimedia system with CD playback & Bluetooth, Automatic Climate Control (ACC) & rear A/C vents. Though ACC & rear A/C vents are not there in the ‘S’ variant, but it does have a music system with a 3.5” display (though no touchscreen & CD playback) & bluetooth. A full-fledged MID with fuel efficiency, DTE & outside temperature display is also missing from the ‘S’ variant.

Even the top-end V & VX variants miss out on height adjustable seat belts & height adjustable rear head rests and not to forget the rather narrow tires for the sake for fuel economy, plus cost cutting is quite apparent in the flexing door cards and then there is no cladding in the boot-lid. But at the end of the day, Honda’s powerful yet fuel efficient engines, after sales service and the brand halo will win over atleast current Honda clients looking for an upgrade. The diesel variant is also likely to make an impact (even with lower power & more significantly torque than the competition) as drivability & fuel efficiency is the key in today’s congested cities and it is here where Honda delivers.

Ford Fiesta

The new Fiesta is one of the least spacious & powerful cars in the comparison. It seems Ford intends to sell the Fiesta just on the basis of driving dynamics. Considering it was priced atrociously to start with, even with the price correction and variant rejig, the Fiesta does not make for a compelling buy. The petrol Titanium+ variant can’t be compared as it is too pricey, & petrol Style variant comes only in Automatic, not manual gearshift. So only diesel Style variant is being compared here. The closest competition (City, Rapid, Vento & Verna) in comparison not only offer more space but are more powerful as well as have more features. Ford’s diesel mill has primarily been tuned for fuel efficiency and comfortingly has the good ARAI figures atleast. The only substantial unique feature of the Fiesta are the Cruise Control – a feature with its usefulness limited to some good highways, which are quite limited in number & length in our country.

Fiat Linea

The Linea doesn’t seem like a hatch with a boot and is in my opinion the best looker of the lot, though space is not so great inspite of boasting of the longest wheelbase amongst sedans in this comparison. The Linea shares its negatives with its former partner the Tata’s – average plastics/mouldings quality & still nascent A.S.S. It has overall a solid build quality and is in fact heavier than most of the cars in the comparison – but this weight does tend to blunt performance – in fact even the slightly heavier SX4 with Fiat’s same Multijet engine propels it faster than the Linea, which is quite perplexing. The T-Jet though is no slow coach and is in fact the only turbo petrol amongst sedans in this comparison (Ford’s EcoBoost not in a sedan yet) , though the higher kerb weight will penalise fuel economy and on top of it the Dynamic variant being compared here is quite pricey.

A value for money vehicle at the time of the launch, the Linea is now overshadowed by the competition. Rear AC vents and "Blue & Me" were its unique features earlier, but newer competition has left it in the cold with some keen pricing. Though the Linea still has a good set of unique/delightful features such as a foot & knee level rear A/C vents, exact door open indication, auto on/off headlights, rain sensing wipers, programmable follow-me-home lights, folding rear seats and both USB and Bluetooth facility.

Tata Manza

Though not in the league of the other cars in the comparison, Manza is still an accomplished full-size sedan with decent engines, good amount of passenger and boot space, OK interiors, but most importantly is about a lakh rupees cheaper than the other variants in comparison. But the Manza is overshadowed by Tata’s A.S.S. and below average build quality. It doesn’t look like a hatch with a boot, as was the case of the older Indigo, and has a generally pleasing appeal. The EX variant being considered here is very good value for money – it has Airbags & ABS, a Bluetooth enabled music system with steering controls and is fairly spacious as well – the Nissan Sunny being its closest competitor in terms of space. Plus there are two unique features – a touchscreen music system & Satellite navigation.

Skoda Rapid


The Rapid seems to be fairly well-built, spacious and has ample 1.6 petrol and a stonker of a diesel motor – the same as in its more expensive sibling – the Vento. Rear A/C vents and features such as Auto-up/down and anti-pinch power windows for all four doors that can be opened/closed from the car’s remote (also there on the Vento) are delightful features. Features that were previously used to distinguish the Rapid from the Vento have thankfully now been included –steering mounted audio controls, USB & Bluetooth for music system. Though Automatic Climate Control & rear parking sensors are still missing from Rapid’s middle variant i.e. Ambition vis-a-vis Vento’s middle variant i.e. Comfortline. Otherwise the Vento and the Rapid are quite identical mechanically distinguished only by their exterior/interior appearance.

Nissan Sunny

The Sunny is playing its space card quite well and sales have been decent. Although the Sunny is built-to-price, its size belies its rather light built (for a full-size sedan) – the petrol variant weighs in at only 1027 kgs versus the next lightest sedan in the bunch - the Honda City at 1050 kgs. A couple of delightful features in Sunny’s XV variant being considered here are electrically foldable ORVMs, real chrome inside door handles (which is a welcome change from the silver painted / chrome finish handles in most of the other sedans) and also offers true keyless entry with push button start.

Maruti Suzuki SX4

The SX4 is an Alpha “Male” with a serious identity crisis. Designed as a 4X4 car, the car is sensibly sold only in the 2X2 variant in India, but the awkward stance and the hump running down the centre of the car, makes it comfortable only for four adults to travel in; though ingress and egress is quite easy due to the high position of the seats which is in turn a result of the high Ground Clearance (170mm). The high GC is a boon for traversing bad roads. SX4s only saving grace is Maruti’s sales & service network. The diesel variant could have been its trump card, but MS has priced it a bit high. Feature-wise the ‘Z’ variants are fairly well equipped with the only glaring omission being a lack of full-fledged MID (Multi Information Display) and rear AC vents.

Hyundai Verna

The new Fluidic Verna has taken the C segment by storm and set the sales chart on fire. The 1.6 petrol and diesel variants are fairly powerful and well equipped. Feature-wise, the Verna has Automatic Climate Control, rear parking sensors, Music system with USB & Bluetooth and the rear disc brakes (Linea T-Jet is the only other car to have it). Even though the Verna matches the Vento in the performance department, it is tuned for sedate driving and has a comfortable low speed ride which translates to not so confidence inspiring high speed ride & handling as compared to the Linea, Vento or Fiesta. Rear seats lack dedicated A/C vents and space-wise are only adequate and have a low seating position which might not be comfortable for everyone.

VW Vento

The Vento simply blows the competition away with its gutsy 1.6 litre diesel engine which though is amongst the noisiest engine in the competition, boasts of astonishing performance figures. Vento’s Comfortline variant has features such as Automatic Climate Control, Auto-up/down and anti-pinch power windows for all four doors that can be opened / closed from the car’s remote and rear parking sensors . But the Comfortline variant missed out on Bluetooth connectivity & audio controls on steering wheel that is available on Rapid’s comparable Ambition variant. But the biggest negative of Vento’s Comfortline variant is the omission of safety features – Driver & Passenger airbag and even ABS. Airbags & ABS are present in all the sedans in this comparison (the City & Verna have only driver-side airbag while the others have both driver & passenger side airbags).

Some quirky aspects of the Vento are the funny central locking system, the requirement to set the wipers to service position first in order to be able to lift them to clean the windshield / open the bonnet, spare tyre is kept the other way around as a result one has to lift the tyre out of the wheel well to fill air in it. Also there are no free services in this competitive environment. That said, the Vento has some interesting features which are not apparent off hand. The music volume reduces when one puts the car into reverse gear, so that the driver is able to hear the beeps of the rear parking sensors and increases to the previously set volume once the car is out of reverse gear. Another such feature is – a warning beep if one tries to drive on with the handbrake on (also there in the Linea). It also has a digital reading for the car’s speed which is displayed in the MID.

Renault Duster

The Duster is an urban SUV with adequate space (passenger & boot) and is a veritable option for the sedan buyer who will rarely consider the big, bulky & mini-truck like full-size SUVs. Though now the Duster is set to face stiff competition from the EcoSport, even though it is a size bigger and a comfortable 5 seater as compared to the EcoSport, wherein cabin space is at a slight premium. The biggest asset of the Duster is a comfortable ride and good handling. But then one can always go for a sedan (VW or Skoda), which have comparable comfort and ride & handling. At the end of the day, the Duster seems slightly over-priced and average vehicle in terms of interiors & engines, especially the 85 BHP diesel, in comparison to the cars in the competition. The interiors are quite average and pale in comparison to the sedans, and for that matter even the EcoSport.

Exterior styling is butch, but things like down-market looking external rear-view mirrors and lift-type door handles, leave the Duster wanting. Quirky ergonomics due to the LHD (Left Hand Drive) controls are quite annoying – not only are the light & indicator stalks LHD (as also in the Fiesta, Linea, Rapid, Vento & EcoSport), even the frequently used central locking button is located away from the driver in the centre console and the worst of all is the electric controls for the ORVMs which are placed below the hand-brake. Also the music system and Bluetooth control are weirdly placed on the steering column behind the steering wheel (though some people prefer it as one does not accidently push the buttons as in the case of cars which have controls directly on the steering wheel)

Ford EcoSport

The brash boy in town has set the car market on fire, attracting buyers from every segment – be it hatchback, sedan or SUV. Ducking under the crucial 4 metres length and availing excise benefits, the EcoSport is a competitively priced urban SUV, which makes the Duster look over-priced, though recent price hikes have reduced the gap a bit. Space (leg as well as shoulder room) is at the premium in the rear seats, which makes it a comfortable 4 seater rather than a full-fledged 5 seater, which the Duster can lay claim to. The butch exterior styling and the futuristic interior design lends it an upmarket feel. There are even three engine options - a staid 1.5L petrol (with automatic option), a frugal 1.5L diesel and a 3-pot 1 litre turbo petrol that claims to offer the best mix of power and fuel economy (though it is available in only the top-end variant). The only deterrent for buyers is the image of Ford cars as relatively expensive to maintain and the petrol variants not being very fuel efficient and having poor resale value.

The list of features is impressive with the only major misses being rear A/C vents and seat armrest. Though Ford has lately been sneaky and omitted true keyless entry & push button start from the Titanium variant. Still the EcoSport’s Titanium variant has all major features including safety (Dual airbags & ABS), rear parking sensors, Automatic Climate Control, cooled glove-box and even the gimmicky Voice-activated controls.

Maruti Suzuki Ertiga

Maruti Suzuki has injected some life in the staid MUV segment. Ertiga is a MUV targeted for in-city commuting mostly and just about makes the cut as a 7-seater. Considering the average Indian’s height/built, seating seven adults should not be very uncomfortable for short distances and if need be, the odd same day excursion (500 km round-trip) should be manageable, plus one saves on hiring a taxi or taking two cars. The Ertiga is not pretending to be a full-sized MUV, but is a city people carrier or a spacious hatch (with a huge boot) depending on the need of the hour.

The Ertiga is a very competent package for the large Indian families which have hitherto shied away from big, bulky & mini-truck like MUVs (Sumo Grande, Xylo, Tavera) and the Innova which is really priced at a premium (though is the leading MUV as an overall package) – though all of them are more spacious than the Ertiga which is a size smaller on the outside as well as inside, but the Ertiga has a fairly large wheelbase to its credit. Feature-wise the ‘Z’ variants are fairly well-loaded as compared to the sedan, with a glaring omission perhaps of only Automatic Climate Control. But an important point to note is that even the top-end "Z" variants are cheaper than all the other vehicles in the comparison, barring the Manza.

Mahindra Scorpio

The Mahindra Scorpio is not really in league of the sedans & M/SUVs in this comparison, but it makes for a strong case if one is looking for a decent people mover (large families or ones who would like to take their dog along on their journey) for about Rs. 10 lakhs (most expensive in comparison) with a 120BHP diesel mill. You do get space / roominess and the option of seating a total of 7 people, though middle row is not the best. The high driving position and the road presence really helps in negotiating traffic and make the pesky auto-rickshaws scurry for cover.

The Scorpio has the edge over sedans, only if ones daily commute involves traversing really bad roads (kind of mild off-roading) – to fully exploit the sturdy ladder-frame chassis, helped by the 16 inch 235/70 tyres and a ground clearance of 180mm. Feature-wise the SLE variant is a mixed bag with ABS, electrically adjustable ORVMs, rear defogger and wiper, front fog lamps, follow-me-home headlamps, individual armrests for the front seats. But there are no airbags, climate control or even a basic music system.
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Most of the information has been collated from the manufacturers’ website for their respective cars and their brochures (so it is liable to change anytime at manufacturer’s discretion). Inclusion of some models & exclusion of others are solely on my personal criteria for comparison.

P.S. There are some blanks (“?” in the sheet) which need to be filled – so if owners of those vehicles can pitch-in, it would be great. Please report to me any anomalies in the analysis, as owners of these models would have a better idea and even the manufacturers also sometimes inadvertently don’t give the complete information or the details are mentioned incorrectly in their communication (online / brochure). I have tried to cover all possible features, but if any have been left out owners can point it out, preferably with supporting pictures (and remember they should be of same variant compared here). Please note that we are considering only the latest variants of the respective cars, say 2013-14 model and not the earlier ones or the ones that are no longer produced (e.g. Pre refresh Linea, Pre feature addition in the Vento or pre variant rejig of the Fiesta).

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......Please report to me any anomalies in the analysis....
I have a 2010 mHawk Scorpio SLE, and it has:

1. Analog fuel gauge
2. Audio door ajar warning [one of the doors is open etc etc]
3. Body coloured DHs and ORVMs.

To the best of my knowledge, these 3 items haven't changed in the 2012 SLE either. About the wiper speed, I think it is 2 without intermittent, but I will confirm and post again tonight.

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Would it be possible to link to the excel sheet that you've compiled ? Maybe a dropbox link if tbhp doesn't allow file uploads.
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Very nice comparison there, painstaking work shines through your excel file Are you sure the Honda City doesn't come with a lamp in the boot? Because I have found this useful in many circumstances in my dad's Honda City, which incidentally is a 'S' variant too. Maybe they deleted this feature to bring costs down? If yes, then its a bad move by Honda.
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Excellent comparison jessie. Really liked it. Thanks for sharing the information here.

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Fiat Linea
It has overall a solid build quality and is in fact heavier than all the cars in the comparison –
Just wanted mention that Linea is indeed lighter than SX4 and Vento and just 5kgs heavier than Rapid.

Linea MJD - 1210 Kgs.
Vento TDI - 1220 Kgs.
Rapid TDI - 1205 Kgs.
SX4 DDIS - 1225 to 1245 Kgs.
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Very nice comparison there, painstaking work shines through your excel file Are you sure the Honda City doesn't come with a lamp in the boot? Because I have found this useful in many circumstances in my dad's Honda City, which incidentally is a 'S' variant too. Maybe they deleted this feature to bring costs down? If yes, then its a bad move by Honda.

The boot lamp is very much present to my knowledge as well.

Also, the window glass does not travel up/down after ignition is switched off in the City. So unless I understood differently, you can put an 'N' against row number 20.
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@comfortablynumb Thanks for the valuable inputs. I checked the latest brochure and it highlights a new instrument cluster. Check the picture below uploaded by @4X4addict – Even though it is of a higher variant – I believe the same IP would be available even in the SLE variant. Regarding the other two points I’ll update them soon. But I believe it would be having an intermittent setting for the wipers.

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@sharninder
I want views/hits to increase on Team-BHP. Once the sheets are in public domain, it won’t remain exclusive to Team-BHP – Though anyone can copy and compile a similar sheet if s/he really wants to.

@aravind.anand
I haven’t found mention of the boot light anywhere online and not even in their brochure, but in anycase I’ll update the same as I feel this is a very basic feature and would be available in the new City.

@rameshnanda
I had infact taken the write-up from my other comparison thread (although I’ve revised the write-ups for this comparison) wherein I compared select hatchbacks and sedans and the Linea was heavier than the other sedans (Manza, Sunny, Rapid, Verna & City) in that comparison – but SX4 is undoubtedly the heaviest. But I have in fact mentioned in continuation that indeed the SX4 is heavier.

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It has overall a solid build quality and is in fact heavier than all the cars in the comparison – but this weight does tend to blunt performance – in fact even the slightly heavier SX4 with Fiat’s same Multijet engine propels it faster than the Linea, which is quite perplexing. Though a value for money vehicle at the time of the launch, the Linea is now overshadowed by the competition.
Vento TDi TL is 1190 kgs & HL is 1220 kgs, but I’m comparing the CL here which will most likely between the TL & HL. I guess I just need to replace the word “all” (highlighted above) with “most”.

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Thanks for your valuable inputs, will soon incorporate the same.
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Some corrections for Scorpio :

1) Vents shut option - Y
2) Auto locking after X kmph - Y (customizable option with remote)
3) Door Ajar Warning - Y (Voice assist system)
4) Body coloured door handles & mirrors - Y
5) Rear spoiler - Y (not add on, its standard)
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Nice thread.
What are the "?" entries?
You were not able to find the details?

+ is there any way we can have regular service cost as well as expected cost of spares + repairs also in this analysis.
I remember reading one PDF file where they had done a comparison of different vehicles and maintenance cost. Lets see if I can find and attach.

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On the other hand ... HAHAHA - this reminds me of technical bid analysis usually done by our customers and their project consultants. And we explain that everything cannot be understood / justified by putting some values in excel sheets.
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Some corrections for Scorpio :

1) Vents shut option - Y
2) Auto locking after X kmph - Y (customizable option with remote)
3) Door Ajar Warning - Y (Voice assist system)
4) Body coloured door handles & mirrors - Y
5) Rear spoiler - Y (not add on, its standard)
Thanks for your inputs Raj. I hope you are not confusing “Air Vents completely Shut” with “Air Volume Control”. If the Scorpio has both, I’ll amend the same. Regarding the rear spoiler I meant “Add-on” as a separate component as compared to an integrated one found in most hatchbacks (though it is more of just a lip than a spoiler) with the HMSL. No features are mentioned in this comparison that are available at an extra cost. For the rest of the amendments, which have been corroborated by @comfortablynumb as well, I’ll soon incorporate the same.
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Good work! couldn't go through all the responses however please note that Passenger Airbag Deactivation feature very much exists in the Linea - both in Petrol as well as Diesel variants.

So it shouldn't be called a unique feature with the Verna. In fact it should be billed a Glaring Omission for all other cars!
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I have included the latest entrant - Maruti Suzuki Ertiga also into this comparison (please check the revised first three posts) - so now there is an option of a MUV as well in addition to the Scorpio - both of which together a fairly credible alternatives to the C segment sedans for those looking for road presence or a people mover or in general a bigger/spacious vehicle.
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By the looks of it in the pictures attached, this looks like a superlative effort.
I am wondering about the excel attachment though!! Is there a file attachment that I'm missing? I read through three times but cannot find the link to download the excel.
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