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I have already removed it (DIY) 157 19.33%
I have already removed it (Got help) 106 13.05%
I will remove it before the deadline (DIY) 62 7.64%
I will remove it before the deadline (from a shop) 73 8.99%
I will ground my car and wait & watch for the order to change 375 46.18%
Mine are factory fitted and I can't remove them 39 4.80%
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Old 21st May 2012, 19:47   #181
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How Funny is this !!!

You cannot have sunfilms in your car.

But you can have curtains in the car .

Makes absolute sense right ???
Hi!!

+1, And you can also have Blinds as some D segment cars are fitted with the same.

The Sun film verdict has a purpose, rightfully so , but in reality good law abiding citizens have to suffer, unfortunately.

I feel that the cops will allow light films and go in for dark ones only.
And ofcourse there will be back door lobbying from Film manufacturers . The verdict will tend to affect Film companies in a big way.

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Old 21st May 2012, 19:57   #182
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Being educated by the veterans in Team BHP about the Motor Vehicle rules, I decided not to install films in the new car though I did lot of research on the films. Thanks to TeamBHP.

The less than 20% VLT film on the old car is yet to be removed. Waiting to see whether the drive against films will start or not.
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Old 21st May 2012, 20:26   #183
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I was on my way back home via Guindy and the Chennai cops were flagging down cars. Some cars with very mild film were not spared either.

But the worst part is Metro rail has taken up most part of the road in the name of construction and these cops are taking up the remaining space.

There was a ToI article about Chennai police removing the sun films on their cars but I see a lot of police officers' rides still running heavily tinted!
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The Hindu writes that Coimbatore Police Commissioner is saying, "Rule 100 (11) of the Central Motor Vehicle Rule (CMVR) banned the use of tinted films.". Is that so?
There is no 100(11) in CMVR. If the reference is to 100(2), then that rule only talks about minimum VLT of windscreens and side window glasses. As a matter of fact, there is no mention of sunfilm or tinted films in CMRV.

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Old 22nd May 2012, 12:20   #185
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Well just saw a article in TOI which says over 3300 vehicles were challaned if 3300 is official number wonder how many cars were stopped real time and how much of a field day chennai cops had.The article says the police fined the owner and removed the film.If they know it is a lucrative way to make money they will all out to do it.Chennai heat the traffic and problems due to Metro rail now this.I guess bike would be the ideal way to go for sometime till the verdict is changed or some expection made.Usually when it comes to chennai police implementation they go all out for a week to ten days and go low hope this happens this time round also
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I saw traffic cops stopping vehicles with tints near Tambaram in Chennai. All the drivers had a 100-rupee note in their hand.

A Fast track cab driver said he'd be removing the tints on his cab soon.
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Old 22nd May 2012, 13:03   #187
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I saw traffic cops stopping vehicles with tints near Tambaram in Chennai. All the drivers had a 100-rupee note in their hand.

A Fast track cab driver said he'd be removing the tints on his cab soon.
If its just a 100 rupees I dont mind paying as long as they dont touch my sunfilm
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Old 22nd May 2012, 13:55   #188
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I have decided to wait this issue out till we have some clarity on the enforcement of this judgement. Personally, I disagree with this ruling and feel that there are other issues which should have been given a higher priority. Issues like this get quick judgements and enforcement but issues of a bigger scale drags for years in the court (best example - Harish's Skoda). Why does a person have to wait for years to get a fair trial where he has been wronged , while judgements like these get passed and enforced in quick time?
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Old 22nd May 2012, 14:09   #189
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My car has 70% VLT at the front and back, and 50% VLT on sides. I had initially decided not to remove the sunfilm until i am asked to do so by the cops. But then i later read that cops not only fine, but also remove the sunfilm on the spot. This is bad news for the rear defogger. So i decided to remove films from the rear screen only.

I used a piece of cloth, some old news papers, Mr. Muscle household glass cleaner and WD40 for this DIY experiment as i do not trust the roadside fellow to be as cautious with the defogger glass as i will be.

I did this in the afternoon and since i had driven the car for some 15 mins prior to this the glass was warm. Not hot, just warm. I used a standard blade to find the edge of the sunfilm and then peeled it carefully and slowly from left to right and vice versa. Neither the glass cleaner nor WD40 helped in easing the sunfilm removal process. Even if i tried to pull the film slowly and gradually, occasionally the film would rip off abruptly.

Film was 3 horizontal strips, so the first one came out in pieces, second one was a bit more cleaner and the third one came off exceptionally well in one piece The entire process took little less than 10 minutes. It took this much time as its difficult to reach the rear glass in a sedan. I am hoping a hatch would be much easier. With the glass cleaner and WD40 rendered useless all this while, i was hoping they will help in the next process which tool around an hour!!

And it did help. There was so much gum.. oh boy, i could never imagine i will have to rub so much. I would recommend using only the glass cleaner as WD40 is no better in the next process and is expensive too. After a lot of trial and error, and while being careful not to damage the rear defogger, the process that works is this: Starting at the edges, aim should be to move all the gum towards the center of the screen. So take generous amount of cloth, fold it so you dont use the same area of cloth twice before rinsing. Else you will deposit gum from one area to another! Spray the solution in small area - about the size of your palm and in a shaving like action draw gum from outside to center of the screen. You will have to apply some pressure on the glass and you may have to do 2-3 swipes to completely clean the glass area. Remember to use different part of the cloth after swiping each area as a lot of gum deposits on the cloth as well falls down. So spread a newspaper before you begin. Rinse the cloth once you have used all of it. You can use both sides of the cloth and extend your rinse time. I was using a standard sized duster and i had to rinse the cloth 3 to 4 times for just the rear glass. Preferably, use a piece of cloth that doesnt leave pieces of cloth behind.

Happy defilming
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Old 22nd May 2012, 17:56   #190
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In case the rule hold for the first few months and is just ignored (like a lot of other rules that get enforced only initially and no one cares later) ... I am thinking of err.. "sticking" to my sun films (pun unintended :P). I am ready for a fine of 400 bucks (2 times violation) and may be after that, I might remove only the rear glass sun film and roll my windows down while driving - just to ensure i don't get fined the third time and get my DL revoked (how easy is it to get a DL again in our country huh!?)

I don't think I will be using the AC anyways with petrol prices set to increase by 5Rs again. So Instead of going through the process of removing sun films and then putting them back again after 6-10 months when eveyone stops caring, I'd rather wait it out!

Just wondering if we get tinted side and rear glasses for the Alto K10 and what the cost would be like? If they cost lesser than putting up new sunfilms (which am sure will be priced at a premium) why not get new glass panes all over?!
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Old 22nd May 2012, 19:48   #191
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In this scrotchnig summer, I am dreading at the thought of having to remove the sun film. Isn't there any solution for it?
What if people come up with other ideas like putting up curtains and other sun shade stuff?
Why the blanket ban on sunfilms? Can't they just specify the visibility level? The ruling is really ill thought out and will be unpopular. Anyway there is full visibility through the front wind shield.
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Crossposting for members following this thread. A good alternative IMHO

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...ml#post2785198 (Car tints banned by HC! EDIT: Supreme Court bans all kinds of sunfilms in cars)
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Old 23rd May 2012, 00:25   #193
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I think most of us are missing is whether the suprement court can pass on order amending the motor vehicle act which it is not empowered to do so and at most make a recommendation.

The act being a legislation needs to be passed in parliament and any modification to a legislation must come in as an ammendment to the passed act.

Neither the judiciary or the law or the administrative powers can over step the boundary of the executive and as such if at all this supreme court order needs to be implemented a single writ petion that can be filed against the order questioning the role of the judiciary can bring a stay.

Question is why no activist or the lobby - car and sun film manufacturer or any consumer has pursued this course of action?
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Old 23rd May 2012, 12:26   #194
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I am surprised to see 50% of us are opting to wait and watch. In Bangalore, the deadline was extended by another two weeks.

A couple of weeks back, when I went to the 3M shop in HSR layout inquiring about the removal, they suggested me wait until May 18 as there might be extension / stay order on the verdict. Later I learnt that stay may not happen but the extension of the dead line is quite possible. Eventually the deadline was extended. I would like to take advantage of the extensions before finally removing the films.
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I am surprised to see 50% of us are opting to wait and watch. In Bangalore, the deadline was extended by another two weeks.
With the trend of posts, most of us have adhered to the 70/50 usage and films are installed just to beat the heat primarily and secondly for safety.

India is country (sorry to say) where if you leave a GPS device on a dashboard, someone will break in and steal it. Films add privacy factor here. At least in Chennai, Its very hot from February to at least november and i cannot dream of driving without tints. India is a tropical country and sunfilms are a must here.

Supreme court is free to bring in any rule but on humanity basis should have done the below. People are following the rule, where they like it or not.
  • Give a comfortable deadline (say 1 year) to remove sunfilms. Note that implementation of BS3 to BS4 emission norms were given sufficient timelines. Manufacturers must be given sometime to offer factory tints in their production line on all models and variants
  • Give some kind of a compensation to those folks who have invested in sunfilm (50/70 Approved ones) at least within the past 1 year.
  • Ban and prevent the sale of black films and enforce the same using Policing and checks.
  • Suggest / Provide and alternative of preventing heat entering the car by non-usage of sunfilms.
  • Alternative for owners of old cars (my 2007 santro) where there was no option to go for factory tints.
  • Give some tax exemptions and encourage film-makers to come up with films that reject heat and IR rays but allow 100% VLT. This is something Many would use as many of us have installed films for heat control rather than to commit crime.

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