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Old 23rd May 2016, 18:26   #601
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I had asked this before and asking again as I did not get any answers.

1. Is there any way to change OEM clear glass to aftermarket heat rejection ones? I do not care for color/tint as long as heat rejection is there. Windsheild clear films are costly and have the risk of being pulled off. Secondly which cars in India have factory fitted heat rejection glasses. Maruti Suzuki Baleno is said to have UV cut glass, does it help in heat rejection ?
2. I think if any types of blinds are fitted away from the window glasses (on the door sills or the interior plastic panel of the door) cops cannot implement the law since the verdict is against anything pasted on the glasses. I understand this goes against the spirit of the law but I do not care as long it helps keep my car cool.
3. I am not looking for privacy just heat rejection.

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I had asked this before and asking again as I did not get any answers.

1. Is there any way to change OEM clear glass to aftermarket heat rejection ones? I do not care for color/tint as long as heat rejection is there. Windsheild clear films are costly and have the risk of being pulled off. Secondly which cars in India have factory fitted heat rejection glasses. Maruti Suzuki Baleno is said to have UV cut glass, does it help in heat rejection ?
2. I think if any types of blinds are fitted away from the window glasses (on the door sills or the interior plastic panel of the door) cops cannot implement the law since the verdict is against anything pasted on the glasses. I understand this goes against the spirit of the law but I do not care as long it helps keep my car cool.
3. I am not looking for privacy just heat rejection.
Why don't you simply get magnetic sun shades? If you look a bit more you can get it for 4 + 1 rear glass as well, It reduces the heat big time or else you can opt for Fortune sunflims, Its Almost transparent, I know a couple of shops here in Mumbai who guarantee cops won't be able to detect if the car has a sun flim on it, And yes i agree i have it on my car, Its not even very expensive, Costed me 5 grands for covering the total car.

Best solution i feel is the magnetic sun shades, Legal + Cheap + Cuts the sun rays effectively.
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I had asked this before and asking again as I did not get any answers.

1. Is there any way to change OEM clear glass to aftermarket heat rejection ones? I do not care for color/tint as long as heat rejection is there. Windsheild clear films are costly and have the risk of being pulled off. Secondly which cars in India have factory fitted heat rejection glasses. Maruti Suzuki Baleno is said to have UV cut glass, does it help in heat rejection ?
2. I think if any types of blinds are fitted away from the window glasses (on the door sills or the interior plastic panel of the door) cops cannot implement the law since the verdict is against anything pasted on the glasses. I understand this goes against the spirit of the law but I do not care as long it helps keep my car cool.
3. I am not looking for privacy just heat rejection.
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Why don't you simply get magnetic sun shades? If you look a bit more you can get it for 4 + 1 rear glass as well, It reduces the heat big time or else you can opt for Fortune sunflims, Its Almost transparent, I know a couple of shops here in Mumbai who guarantee cops won't be able to detect if the car has a sun flim on it, And yes i agree i have it on my car, Its not even very expensive, Costed me 5 grands for covering the total car.

Best solution i feel is the magnetic sun shades, Legal + Cheap + Cuts the sun rays effectively.
Any sort of sunfilm is banned, even if it is fully/almost transparent. Cops in the northern states like UP and Punjab will check the glass with their finger nails and if they find anything, then you're fined.

Distinguished @HVKumar (IIRC) is of the opinion that even the magnetic sun shades are illegal and are liable to be fined.

If you're not going outside your state I think you can get away with even the sunfilms, but once you decide to venture out of your state please remember that the cops are very severe on out-of-state cars.
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I've a friend who recently fixed some costly film on his car. It looks superb.

When he sees cops in the distance he just slides all 4 windows fully down. As with most traffic offenses in India, getting caught for this isn't a deterrent.

His logic is - I spent 20k. So even if, by the laws of probability I do get challaned by cops, it's only Rs. 100/-, i.e. the negotiated amount.

Referring to the image V or VI means 70% light transmitted. Hence legal.

So to answer the OP's query, you can't affix new film or even replace the glass if the mfr. didn't sell it that way.

If the mfr. does sell cars that way and your particular car doesn't have it, then, go ahead change it. Nobody can challan you.

The law was passed for 2 reasons:
1. because per the hon. judges, all traffic cops don't have light transparency checking meters
2. they said Botswana, Iraq and Djibouti don't have sun films; hence India must not have them


However, there are many people whose skin is very sensitive to sunlight. They usually get a doctors letter/certificate from a govt. hospital (no private or your doctor cousins' letter). When stopped by cops, it takes some explaining to convince them. They let you go.
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Why don't you simply get magnetic sun shades? If you look a bit more you can get it for 4 + 1 rear glass as well, It reduces the heat big time or else you can opt for Fortune sunflims, Its Almost transparent, I know a couple of shops here in Mumbai who guarantee cops won't be able to detect if the car has a sun flim on it, And yes i agree i have it on my car, Its not even very expensive, Costed me 5 grands for covering the total car.
Can you help providing some pointers to Fortune Sun films. Tried googling, but failed to find out details about this product.
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Can you help providing some pointers to Fortune Sun films. Tried googling, but failed to find out details about this product.

I don't think these are very branded ones, But they surely do the job well, Its nearly transparent and sure does cut down heat well enough, Try checkinng with your local car shops, Ill also see if i can find something online about it.

If your from mumbai i got it installed from Motorsounds at Versova.
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3 M has got some transparent films for the front wind shield.
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3 M has got some transparent films for the front wind shield.
Not when I last looked, which is only a few weeks ago. They have CR70. This is what I had on my car in 2012. It is barely noticeable on factory clear glass, but it is not clear.

3M CR90 is not available at [my local] 3m Carcare outlet[s]

I'd be happy to wrong. If there has been a change, do please post the product details.
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Not when I last looked, which is only a few weeks ago. They have CR70. This is what I had on my car in 2012. It is barely noticeable on factory clear glass, but it is not clear.
I was referring to the cr70,, which I think is quite clear and serves the purpose.
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Cool Tinting of rear windows. Legal??

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Hello fellow enthusiasts,

I will try to keep it brief.

I have seen in many car reviews on YouTube that cars have only their rear windows tinted. This made me wonder if such a thing would be legal in India.

Example: This is a screen shot from one such review. Car: Mitsubishi Outlander
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Hello BHP-ians,

I got the first ticket of my life yesterday. My fault as per the challan issued to me is"Use of tinted films".

I argued with the Traffic Inspector (TI) and Sub-Inspector (SI) that I have never installed any tinted film on any of the glass. To this, they pointed out to black curtain-type cut-out on my rear glass.

I drive a VW Polo TDI and had bought the Exquisite Edition last November. As part of Exquisite Edition elements, the company has provided custom-fit curtain like fittings on both rear windows and rear glass, which are held in place by clips fixed on window frame.

When I argued that this is a factory fitted accessory, and hence, must comply with the regulations of MV Act, their response was to get a claim from the company. As per my knowledge, only the use of tinted glasses and films is prohibited by the SC order. Otherwise also, we see a lot of vehicles moving with stick-on type shades which almost cover the window/rear-glass area.

Though I paid the challan of INR 100 (just to be on time, and sincerely not having time for a court proceeding), I am now left confused over use of a factory-fitted accessory.
Can any one here guide me on this issue or anyone having similar experience for such kind of fittings? How to handle this situation in future? VW calls them "Detachable Window Blinds"

PS: Apologies if this is a repeat message and has been discussed earlier in the forum. I searched but couldn't find any direct references.
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Hello BHP-ians,

I got the first ticket of my life yesterday. My fault as per the challan issued to me is"Use of tinted films".

I argued with the Traffic Inspector (TI) and Sub-Inspector (SI) that I have never installed any tinted film on any of the glass. To this, they pointed out to black curtain-type cut-out on my rear glass.

I drive a VW Polo TDI and had bought the Exquisite Edition last November. As part of Exquisite Edition elements, the company has provided custom-fit curtain like fittings on both rear windows and rear glass, which are held in place by clips fixed on window frame.

When I argued that this is a factory fitted accessory, and hence, must comply with the regulations of MV Act, their response was to get a claim from the company. As per my knowledge, only the use of tinted glasses and films is prohibited by the SC order. Otherwise also, we see a lot of vehicles moving with stick-on type shades which almost cover the window/rear-glass area.

Though I paid the challan of INR 100 (just to be on time, and sincerely not having time for a court proceeding), I am now left confused over use of a factory-fitted accessory.
Can any one here guide me on this issue or anyone having similar experience for such kind of fittings? How to handle this situation in future? VW calls them "Detachable Window Blinds"

PS: Apologies if this is a repeat message and has been discussed earlier in the forum. I searched but couldn't find any direct references.
Interesting.. Even I would like to know if it's an offense.

I drive with stick-on window blinds most of the time. I never faced any issue with the traffic police. I guess police in Hyderabad knows that people will be fried without these blinds.
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Hello BHP-ians,

I got the first ticket of my life yesterday. My fault as per the challan issued to me is"Use of tinted films".

I argued with the Traffic Inspector (TI) and Sub-Inspector (SI) that I have never installed any tinted film on any of the glass. To this, they pointed out to black curtain-type cut-out on my rear glass.

I drive a VW Polo TDI and had bought the Exquisite Edition last November. As part of Exquisite Edition elements, the company has provided custom-fit curtain like fittings on both rear windows and rear glass, which are held in place by clips fixed on window frame.

When I argued that this is a factory fitted accessory, and hence, must comply with the regulations of MV Act, their response was to get a claim from the company. As per my knowledge, only the use of tinted glasses and films is prohibited by the SC order. Otherwise also, we see a lot of vehicles moving with stick-on type shades which almost cover the window/rear-glass area.

Though I paid the challan of INR 100 (just to be on time, and sincerely not having time for a court proceeding), I am now left confused over use of a factory-fitted accessory.
Can any one here guide me on this issue or anyone having similar experience for such kind of fittings? How to handle this situation in future? VW calls them "Detachable Window Blinds"

PS: Apologies if this is a repeat message and has been discussed earlier in the forum. I searched but couldn't find any direct references.
I live in Bombay. Around a year ago I asked a Traffic Police officer, who had stopped me for breaking the signal, about the magnetic stick-on sunshades I had in my car and If they were legal and he confirmed that they were. That only tints were disallowed.
Perhaps In the future you should focus the argument on just the tints being illegal and not the ones you have.
Also, I have been driving around since the past year with said magnetic shades and I haven't been stopped even once for those.

Hope that helps!
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is this the type of magnetic sunshade we are talking here?

http://www.ebay.in/itm/152391774336?aff_source=Sok-Goog

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To this, they pointed out to black curtain-type cut-out on my rear glass.

I drive a VW Polo TDI and had bought the Exquisite Edition last November. As part of Exquisite Edition elements, the company has provided custom-fit curtain like fittings on both rear windows and rear glass, which are held in place by clips fixed on window frame.

When I argued that this is a factory fitted accessory, and hence, must comply with the regulations of MV Act, their response was to get a claim from the company. As per my knowledge, only the use of tinted glasses and films is prohibited by the SC order.
Can any one here guide me on this issue or anyone having similar experience for such kind of fittings? How to handle this situation in future? VW calls them "Detachable Window Blinds"
Why don't you send an email to Volkswagen with the Challan attached and ask for the clarification. They might send you a 'claim' which you can show next time whenever they stop you. I don't think Volkswagen would sell anything illegal now. They have incurred huge losses after the dieselgate scandal. However, it isn't practical to remove the blinds every time you drive and attach them again when you park.

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“For the reasons afore-stated, we prohibit the use of black films of any VLT percentage or any other material upon the safety glasses, windscreens (front and rear) and side glasses of all vehicles throughout the country. … The directions contained in this judgment shall become operative and enforceable with effect from 4th May, 2012.”
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