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View Poll Results: FE in city with full AC
Aveo 1.4 - 10 kmpl 2 3.70%
Aveo 1.4 - 11 kmpl 0 0%
Aveo 1.4 - 12 kmpl 1 1.85%
Aveo 1.4 - 13 kmpl 0 0%
Aveo 1.4 - 14 kmpl 1 1.85%
Baleno - 8 kmpl 0 0%
Baleno - 9 kmpl 1 1.85%
Baleno - 10 kmpl 7 12.96%
Baleno - 11 kmpl 3 5.56%
Baleno - 12 kmpl 16 29.63%
Fiesta 1.4 petrol - 8 kmpl 0 0%
Fiesta 1.4 petrol - 9 kmpl 0 0%
Fiesta 1.4 petrol - 10 kmpl 1 1.85%
Fiesta 1.4 petrol - 11 kmpl 0 0%
Fiesta 1.4 petrol - 12 kmpl 1 1.85%
NHC - 10 kmpl 2 3.70%
NHC - 11 kmpl 1 1.85%
NHC - 12 kmpl 5 9.26%
NHC - 13 kmpl 7 12.96%
NHC - 14 kmpl 6 11.11%
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Old 24th April 2006, 17:38   #61
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Then you might have as well saved another 70-80K and bought Fiat Petra, which gives same mileage, built stronger and has more power. I hope, you are getting my point.
Well, I am no Fiat fan. When, even those who are fans seem to be put off by Fiat's A** problems, why would I even think of that option ?
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Well, I am no Fiat fan. When, even those who are fans seem to be put off by Fiat's A** problems, why would I even think of that option ?
No. I am not asking you to buy Fiat Petra. I just wanted to point out, that there are merits in NHC as well and it is not stupid for many to spend 1.6L for NHC over Baleno. (e.g. some may like it for styling, its space, its interior, brand name, just to name a few).
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No. I am not asking you to buy Fiat Petra. I just wanted to point out, that there are merits in NHC as well and it is not stupid for many to spend 1.6L for NHC over Baleno. (e.g. some may like it for styling, its space, its interior, brand name, just to name a few).
Oh, OK. I guess both of us got the other wrong.
What I meant was, "It would have been stupid of me if I had bought the NHC ONLY for the hyped FE. The extra dough that I would have coughed up would not have been worth the 1kmpl more that I would have got". Apart from the hyped FE and the Honda tag, there was nothing in it that interested me. The looks totally put me off. I like Honda (never owned one though) and Suzuki comes a close second. It would have been great if it was possible to get an NHC that had all the NHC attributes, but with the looks of the OHC.
My Dad's looking at a C-segment car and I am trying to persuade him to get an NHC.
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It would have been stupid of me if I had bought the NHC ONLY for the hyped FE.
Guys, why do i keep coming across this phrase "hyped FE of NHC" ??

b'cos the guy who gave me TD told the b'lore city FE is 14 kmpl with AC and my friends have confirmed the same.

and the maruti salesman told me to expect 11 kmpl with AC which others on this forum seem to be getting (except me )

so where/who created the so called hype?
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Well, let me clear the hype bit to you.
A newspaper (a reputed one at that) in Kerala reported that the City gives 25kmpl on highways. This would translate into a city FE of anywhere between 15-18kmpl. If that is not hype (when compared to what owners actually reported), what is ?
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Well, let me clear the hype bit to you.
A newspaper (a reputed one at that) in Kerala reported that the City gives 25kmpl on highways. This would translate into a city FE of anywhere between 15-18kmpl. If that is not hype (when compared to what owners actually reported), what is ?
hmmm....thats the history of kerala newpaper, but how come this info has spread across india?

Anyways my friend who gets 14 kmpl in city gets 20 kmpl on highway. [on the excellent bangalore chennai highway he got 22 kmpl ]
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The newspaper report came in quite late actually. From the time the NHC was introduced, there were lots of rumours floating around about its exceptional FE, credited in part to the looks / styling. And those figures even though not same as what was claimed by the Mallu newspaper, were quite close. I am not sure who started these off, but as far as I remember, Honda just played along without issuing any clarification / rebuttal. I guess most manufacturers would do the same.
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when i went to take the icici loan, i checked out the sales of nhc, he told me that he had financed about 25 nhc and 0 balenos in his previous 6 months !!

anyways i had made up my mind towards baleno mainly for its AC / power and seating comfort.

I had spoke to a couple of guys in our company who had NHCs and all them were extremely happy about the FE and the beige interirors. regarding drawback few of them mentioned that AC took some time to cool. But that apart all of them very happy customers. So atleast here in bangalore NHC FE doesn't seem to be a hype, the saleman says 14 kmpl and they are getting it.

the funny part is the nhc saleman said on highways nhc gives 16 kmpl.....but most of the people whom i spoke to were talking in the range of 19 kmpl to 21 kmpl.
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No more guess work, boys! It was OD who first claimed FE of ~25 on highway.
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No more guess work, boys! It was OD who first claimed FE of ~25 on highway.
Going by what people have reported i believe common drivers like us the public can get 20 on highways, but only some experts can get 25.
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Thanks, RX135.
venkatrx, now you have the source behind the all-India hype.
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Cool NHC Mileage

Owners pride; neighbours envy. Just kidding folks.

I am one of the owners of NHC ZX and I do get 14kmpl with AC on 70-80% of the time. Note that I am not perfect at the driver's seat and hence am sure that a better driver would derive more than that.

Also, on the highways, I did get marginally over 18.

And note that my car crossed 3000 kms just yesterday.

As has been repeated by several folks in many threads, different things appeal to different people. Accept that. I know of some folks who are still fascinated about Esteen and would buy it over any of the new C segment cars.

In my personal view, though one cannot make a decision (on the new car) entirely based on FE, it certainly is one of those top 5 requirements for a Petrol car (even for a C segment). Remember considerable amount of buyers of the C segment cars are graduates (from lower segments). FE IS important.
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Remember considerable amount of buyers of the C segment cars are graduates (from lower segments). FE IS important.
Rightly said, FE is important @ rs.50/ltr.......the day is not far (may be within a year.) when it will be 70~80/ltr, then FE is going to be a great influencing factor, even a 1 kmpl difference could be huge differntiator....bad scene but could become a reality.


PS : in next 10 days petrol will increase from rs.51 to rs.56/ltr .... he he.
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Guys, just 5 more days to go....
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I have a suggestion for FE comparison.... we usually measure FE in terms of km/l, however I think it makes more sense to use l/km instead! or l/1000km as 1000km is a typical monthly distance travelled. The reason is that we bother about FE mainly due the fuel expense, and this figure will give a direct measure of that expense for any given journey.

It may seem to be trivial, but here is an illustration- consider following FE figures in KMPL:
6 (really poor FE, heard of old icon1.6, cielos)
9 (lower range for sedans <=100bhp)
12 (most sedans <=100bhp, lower range for most small cars)
15 (higher range for sedans- nhc, super balenos like v1p3r's and most small cars)
18 (M800/alto- class of their own)

It translates to 167, 111, 83, 67 & 55 L/1000KM. So, if you consider 18kmpl (the best case) as reference, every 3kmpl drop from there is going to increase your bill by 20%, 50%, 100% & 200% You get the point... and that also explains why venkat is so upset over his milage figures
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