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Old 27th September 2012, 20:40   #226
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Can you believe that a fresher post graduate speciality doctor in Apollo Hospital has to probate for 6 years before he is promoted. (from registrar {lowest rung} to senior registrar, which is still not permanant)? This is the case in most corporate hospitals.
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Now this is from Maruti workers' union. Intriguing, and let me tell you, it may not be one sided.
http://gurgaonworkersnews.wordpress.com
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Now this is from Maruti workers' union. Intriguing, and let me tell you, it may not be one sided.
http://gurgaonworkersnews.wordpress.com
I cannot access this from where I am at the moment. But now that you say its intriguing, I am really curious!
Can someone post an extract only if its not too long? Or at least summarise in Sanjay (mahabharata) style?

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Thank you for sharing such a truth telling article. I think we need spread the word using the forum and social media to make the world aware of these happings. It is so sad that the media too is playing in to hands of money. So pity that not even one reputed TV channel/news paper wrote the truth.
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Thank you for sharing such a truth telling article. I think we need spread the word using the forum and social media to make the world aware of these happings. It is so sad that the media too is playing in to hands of money. So pity that not even one reputed TV channel/news paper wrote the truth.
To spread the "truth" you need to know it first. How do we know what all is written is true? To me it is incredibly one sided and there are lot of fabrications.
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To spread the "truth" you need to know it first. How do we know what all is written is true? To me it is incredibly one sided and there are lot of fabrications.
The term 'truth' is a joke. It's mostly 'point of view' which gets coined as truth by both sides.
Why blame the corporate when government that is suppose to protect, is staying quite. There may be laws to protect workers, but there is no genuine interest to implement them.
Government wants the cake and eat it too. If they try to be too protectionist to woo vote banks, they end up losing big moolah from corporates who fund their parties. If they try to protect corporates, they lose vote banks. It's a vicious cycle for them.
Unless the 3 pillars of constitution (judicial, political, administration) work together for the betterment, more such cases will keep popping up.
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The term 'truth' is a joke. It's mostly 'point of view' which gets coined as truth by both sides.
Why blame the corporate when government that is suppose to protect, is staying quite. There may be laws to protect workers, but there is no genuine interest to implement them.
Government wants the cake and eat it too. If they try to be too protectionist to woo vote banks, they end up losing big moolah from corporates who fund their parties. If they try to protect corporates, they lose vote banks. It's a vicious cycle for them.
Unless the 3 pillars of constitution (judicial, political, administration) work together for the betterment, more such cases will keep popping up.
Yes. But even if we forget vote banks and everything, the Government and the citizens of our country (including the corporates) need to honour the Constitution. Our Constitution defines our country as a "sovereign democratic socialist republic".
Does anyone of us still remember/believe/honour this "socialist" part in the midst of so-much talks about open economy, removal of subsidy, capitalism, et al?
Or is "socialism", like "truth" is also a "point of view"?
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who brought in the caste here?
It was reported that the trigger to arson was one of the managerial staff abused worker on caste lines.
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All is not well at the Manesar Maruti factory. Came across this call for dharna and hunger strike on 7th and 8th November by the Maruti Suzuki Workers Union. Their demands are:

1. Institute an independent impartial probe into the incident of 18th July 2012, and into the role of the management in it.
2. Immediately release all the arrested workers. Stop all repressive measures by the police on workers-inside the jail, inside the company and outside- and on their family members and relatives.
3. Immediately reinstate all the 546 terminated workers and also give priority to reinstate temporary workers as permanents.

Please see the following link for full article:

http://kafila.org/2012/11/06/maruti-...an/#more-14247

After posting, just noticed the new thread. I am letting it remain here as an update to the old thread. Moreover the link above has the call for strike and dharna in full, for those who want to read it.

Please see the new thread here:

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...rike-time.html (Maruti workers to go on strike (again!!) Hunger strike this time)

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An update: Preliminary report of the findings of the INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION ON LABOUR RIGHTS, released on 31 May 2013, New Delhi

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http://kafila.org/2013/06/03/workers...lr/#more-18734


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"The International Commission for Labor Rights (ICLR) constituted a team of lawyers and trade unionists from France, Japan, South Africa, the USA and India to investigate the incidents that led to the summary dismissal of over 500 permanent workers and over 1800 contract workers at the Manesar plant of Maruti Suzuki India Limited (MSIL) in August 2012. The team was constituted to bring international law and policy perspectives to bear on a situation that has festered for almost a year, with – at a minimum – 147 workers in jail over that period. The Commission reminds the Government of India that, under well-recognised international and domestic principles, “justice delayed is justice denied.”


The group also brings important comparative perspectives on the current or proposed role of this company in the global economy. MSIL has a parent company in Japan, substantial exports to Africa and Europe, a proposed assembly plant in South Africa, and an investor base in the United States – understanding the company’s practices in India is an imperative for those committed to corporate accountability and sustainable development jurisdictions outside India."
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I do not support violence from the management or the workers. But really, the violence at the plant is not the real issue here. The violence is just the end-result of a long line of labour problems at Maruti plant, most of which started when the Government started selling its stake. The core issue here still is the exploitation of workers. And it's a continuing problem. Like people have said here, work at an assembly line is never easy. And there are a lot of jobs with horrible working conditions. Other plants have also had strikes. But when a situation deteriorates to violence and death, then there's always an underlying cause for it.

Any worker with an ounce of common sense would know that if a member of the management were harmed, it would never aid their cause. And when you look at how conveniently it has worked out for MSIL since then (production restarted, planning to reach full capacity in weeks if not months), one does wonder if this has been orchestrated.

I do have more to say, but it's late. Another time then.
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Today I gone through the story at source and I felt it is a single sided story. As a fair practice, the author should have included opinion of one or two management category staff as well.

Now if we actually look as an independent person, we can understand that it is an exaggerated story. To begin with, the first person explains his spell as an apprentice. Apprenticeship is an optional thing and he could have said NO to Maruti but he did not do that. The apprenticeship scheme is regulated by Government agencies. There are strict guide lines about their working hours, shift and training etc. I have seen the senior staffs getting their work done by those apprentices. I am not giving clean chit to the company. But if the apprentices are getting exploited it is due to failure of the company, government agency and apprentice him/herself.

Regarding the time of a person waking up and shift timing. How the company can control that and How Maruti can help? Should they discourage people who are staying in Gurgaon/NCR area?

There are guidelines related to break timings and factory lay out. The lay outs are supposed to be approved by authorities and they verify the time required for walking and having lunch. Normally tea will be served near their work place. I can not believe that the statement, "Tea come late by one minute". This might have happened once in a while. Because it will be an outsourced activity and Maruti will tolerate such behavior.

There are few other points need to be explained further. But at a later stage.
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I've suddenly been disgusted by the horrendous treatment of this poor chap and all of his work mates.

Similarly I believe this sort of behaviour exists at the dealership levels with the general public. Most dealers have the blind imperialism that their cars will be sold anyway. Why should they be soft spoken with the customers.
Recently Autocar India announced their search for the Young India Safe driver 2013 and I got through to the second round (driving test). I booked my test online and selected a dealership in Agra. On the day of the test I call them way in advance and after about 10 phone-call transfers I speak to some bloke who had around 0.5% of an idea of what competition I was talking about.

He blatantly refused to conduct the test stating they don't know what the heck I was talking about and further excuses like they don't have the Maruti Driving School test/instruction vehicle today and that I should sod off and find another dealer to deal with me. He was so annoyed as if I asked him for a free car with a full tank of fuel

I immediately hung up and emailed Autocar+Maruti Suzuki stating what was happening in the real world. The dealer probably got a good telling off from and he called me back! Gave me a date to come over and take the test.

I later found out that he wasn't apologetic and the invitation was only to play me over, although I went for the test they didn't put me on their computer simulation console which was part of the testing and neither did they send my entry to Autocar!

Its crazy stupid how people can be
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The bosses at MSIL need to follow this mantra and give the employees what they deserve!
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