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Old 2nd October 2012, 17:10   #16
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Thanks for the info GTO. Always look forward to this thread. A request for you if possible: can you show the sales charts months in reverse order? i.e Sept 12, Aug 12, July 12 instead of starting with Sept 11 and going forward till Sept 12.
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Thanks GTO for the in-depth analysis.

Why is there such a major difference in sales between Fiesta Classic & New Fiesta, similarly Pulse & Scala cannot match Micra & Sunny.

Looks like Innova & XYLO sales are getting effected by Ertiga & Duster.
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Thanks GTO and parrys for the amazing analysis month after month.

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The Mahindra Quanto, Indiaís 2nd sub-4 meter SUV, debuts on our charts this month. Official Review up in a week.

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We are testing the new Sail in a couple of days. Letís see what she has to offer.
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Would be looking forward to the official reviews.
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Thanks GTO , been on the lookout for this for a few days on!

Not surprised with the performance of the Elantra , the car has the makings of being another success for Hyundai and we see that already.

Linea numbers might go up next month with the release of the new models , but i am not surprised they are where they are - for example the T-jets are simply not available , not even for a TD

Sorry for the rapid , its a good car and i wish it sees better numbers soon , hopefully Skoda have something lined up for Diwali to help it along.
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Swift is below the MUV bolero
Maruti is still catching up from Manesar plant issues with Swift and Dzire and they were not working with full swing. Look at their previous month numbers, they are far lower. Once production goes back to 'Normal', Swift will be above 10k as usual.

@ GTO, Parrys: As usual, Superb report. Great job.

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Other than a Dzire or Verna, sedans are suffering a serious onlslaught from SUV/MUVs. 59 Lineas and 4211Dusters sums this up pretty well.

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Thanks GTO & Parrys for excellent charts & analysis.

Sad to see Spark, Linea, AStar, SX4, Fabia going down day by day.
All these are capable cars. Indian customers are different?.

Finally Renault tastes success leaving behind Honda, VW & Skoda.

Not a very great month for all, except for the top three.
Hoping coming months will be better for all.


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A nice analysis as always!

And thanks for updating about Quanto review finally! eagerly waiting for that.

I have a small doubt about classification of vehicles - Duster is SUV according to body style and put in C2 segment whereas Safari and Scorpio are put in Utility segments with SUV body styles. Couldn't Scorpio and Safari be put in C2 segment too (looking at the price bracket I guess)?

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Thanks GTO for the neat job on the numbers and the related analysis. 2 questions:

1.) Why less takers for Fabia vis a vis Polo? Technically they are similar and the Fabia is comes with huge discounts. To me it makes more sense to buy a Fabia than a Polo.

2.) Who have been buying these 100-200 Gypsys (931 in May!) in the last 9 months? And when can I expect them to start selling them so that I can get mine?
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A tad surprised with the WagonR numbers - CNG effect? Also Maruti as a whole bounces back this month. Who buys so many Omnis?

Time has come for Hyundai to phase out the Santro and Accent. Good numbers from Verna and Elantra - so the fluidic theme and loaded gizmos are working. Guess a price cut may save the Sonata - its quite a nice car.

Bolero can do no wrong and propels Mahindra again to #3 !

Duster is flying off the blocks and reminds us of the Fortuner days.

Disappointed by Skoda and Honda numbers - they have better cars than the numbers show.

TATA really need to refresh their lineup and shed the taxi image - and better fit and finish with consistent QC should help.

All in all a good month for auto industry IMO.
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I feel the reason why the Ventos, Vernas, Lineas and the Rapids are not selling is that people are looking at MUVs and mini SUVs as an option that makes much sense in India than a sedan (Thanks to the roads).
Consider Ertiga, can carry an occasional extra passenger if not then Lots of space, OK looks, fuel efficient and most importantly Sedan Like;
People are moving (running) to that segment.

Linea is dead.. well almost :( My Linea's re-sale hopes are like royally thrashed with these sales figures.
I have a Linea, I know the reasons why it is not selling.

What happens to Quanto remains to be seen. i don't know I came back with a mixed bag of emotions after riding that 'thing'.

Safari is showing a steady decline in sales probably due to the news that Storme is coming in October. Expect heavy discounts on Safari when Storme is launched.

Awaiting the Alto 800 to see whether that will the small car in my home. NANO that was my choice 1, now will have to wait now.

Overall Good time for the consumer, choices have never been this good and it is getting better. NICE!!

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I have a small doubt about classification of vehicles.
Its based on SIAM's new vehicle classification system.

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Thanks for the topic. Here's two files received from Maruti that illustrate:

- Current (top) versus new (bottom) classification:
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Mini:Seats upto-5, Length Normally <3600 mm, Body Style-Hatchback, Engine Displacement Normally upto 1.0 Litre

Compact:Seats upto-5, Length Normally between 3600 - 4000 mm, Body Style-Sedan/Estate/Hatch/Notchback, Engine Displacement Normally upto 1.4 Litre

Super Compact:Seats upto-5, Length Normally between 4000 - 4250 mm, Body Style-Sedan/Estate/Hatch/Notchback, Engine Displacement Normally upto 1.6 Litre

Mid-Size:Seats upto-5, Length Normally between 4250 - 4500 mm, Body Style-Sedan/Estate/Hatch/Notchback, Engine Displacement Normally upto 1.6 Litre

Executive:Seats upto-5, Length Normally between 4500 - 4700 mm, Body Style-Sedan/Estate/Notchback, Engine Displacement Normally upto 2 Litre

Premium:Seats upto-5, Length Normally between 4700 - 5000 mm, Body Style-Sedan/Estates, Engine Displacement Normally upto 3 Litre

B: Utility Vehicles/ Sports Utility Vehicles; 2x4 or 4x4 offroad capability ; Generally ladder on frame ; 2 box ; 5 Seats or more but upto 10 Seats
UV1:Length <4400 mm, Price Upto Rs. 15 Lakh

UV4:Price Between Rs. 15 to 25 Lakh

C: Vans ; Generally 1 or 1.5 box; seats upto 5 to 10

V1:Hard tops mainly used for personal transport, Price Upto Rs. 10 Lakh

Source: [http://www.marutisuzuki.com/Maruti-S...uly-2011.aspx]
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Its surprising to see Swift and Ritz selling in the same range.
Or is it that Swift sales would go up further?

I have always been maintaining that the Ritz though may look quirky, is one of the most practical hatches with its tall boy design
and a good a diesel engine. With the price of new Swift increasing (when it was introduced) the VFM aspect of Ritz increased even
further. Has there been any price correction with the launch of refreshed Ritz?
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Its surprising to see Swift and Ritz selling in the same range.
Or is it that Swift sales would go up further?
The fact that sales of Swift, Dzire and export numbers (mainly A-Star) are down means that Manesar plant is still not fully functional. The spurt in Maruti sales is because they already have started dispatching the new Alto800, IMO.


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The facelifted Ritz seems to be doing some brisk numbers
It's the new display and test drive vehicles those are doing numbers, IMO.

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Any thoughts on whose loss is the Dusters gain ? Most sedans + UVs are flatish to mildly negative. Their loss does not add up to the Dusters numbers. Maybe its too early to look for trends and October, November numbers need to be seen as well
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