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Old 19th June 2008, 10:46   #151
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May I add the Zen AX and WagonR AX.
A certain moderator will not be too happy with that. It was his life for quite some time
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Old 19th June 2008, 15:01   #152
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Hey guys we completely forgot Zen Carbon, the two door version of Zen.
I still like the looks of it. I think Maruti launched it way too early in the Indian market.

A two door hatch with sporty Red and Black Interiors and controls with alloys and all that would normally appeal to the young professional who would be looking to spend his money flamboyantly and buy something stylish and chic like the carbon but the problem was during those days (1999-2000) how many young professionals had the money to afford and maintain a Car ? Most people who earned enough moolah would be married and planning for Kids already and they would look for something more practical, the four door Zen that is. Today the IT, BPO and its dependent sectors have churned out so many young and rich professionals that by the age of 28 we see quite a few of them owning cars and even apartments and it is they who would have splurged their money on a Carbon. Today if relaunched Zen Carbon can sell in good numbers. But who is listening...

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Hey guys we completely forgot Zen Carbon, the two door version of Zen.
I still like the looks of it. I think Maruti launched it way too early in the Indian market.

A two door hatch with sporty Red and Black Interiors and controls with alloys and all that would normally appeal to the young professional who would be looking to spend his money flamboyantly and buy something stylish and chic like the carbon but the problem was during those days (1999-2000) how many young professionals had the money to afford and maintain a Car ? Most people who earned enough moolah would be married and planning for Kids already and they would look for something more practical, the four door Zen that is. Today the IT, BPO and its dependent sectors have churned out so many young and rich professionals that by the age of 28 we see quite a few of them owning cars and even apartments and it is they who would have splurged their money on a Carbon. Today if relaunched Zen Carbon can sell in good numbers. But who is listening...
I had a Carbon 2 years back. It came in 2 models. the black one was called carbon and the silver one was called steel. Since the carbon had 2 doors less i think it made it very light. That thing used to just zip zap and zoom. It returned some very respectable mileage numbers too.

Unfortunately i had to let it go. but if i can get one today, that would be the only car i would trade ma Palio for.

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Old 19th June 2008, 17:00   #154
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Zen Carbon & Steel were limited edition(export surplus actually) cars so they cant be called flop as all of them were sold.
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Well, my neighbour bought one for Rs 6.4 lacs OTR. I have seen a few on the roads too. But I guess most customers must be getting swayed away to the Swift Vdi that is around 50K cheaper, or the Verna diesel that is 2 lacs costlier.
I dont think Getz CRDI can be called a Flop Car. Its just another case of bad pricing by Hyundai. I agree you can get Swift DDIS at a lesser price. But can it match the performance and space of Getz? I doubt.
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Indigo XL.I cannot definitely see them running around like their normal counterparts.
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If resale value is to be considered, we can add Optra Magnum to this list. I had a small heart attack when a used car dealer quoted the price for my 10 months old car!
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I dont think Getz CRDI can be called a Flop Car. Its just another case of bad pricing by Hyundai. I agree you can get Swift DDIS at a lesser price. But can it match the performance and space of Getz? I doubt.

Getz CRDI is a flop, end of the day ,even the price matters. If Hyundai has priced it higher, then its thier mistake. No vehicles sold = Flop car
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Getz crdi may be a flop, but its one hell of a car....arguably the best hatch in terms of FE and Fun. By the way the Skoda Fabia has the potential to be the biggest flop...looks crap and obscene pricing!
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What about the Indian W124?? It was a car which was outdated and when it was launched here, india did not like it!!
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Getz CRDI is a flop, end of the day ,even the price matters. If Hyundai has priced it higher, then its thier mistake. No vehicles sold = Flop car
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Getz crdi may be a flop, but its one hell of a car....arguably the best hatch in terms of FE and Fun. By the way the Skoda Fabia has the potential to be the biggest flop...looks crap and obscene pricing!

Then is the Getz petrol also a flop? It is also priced atleast 50K higher than Swift and selling much less than Swift
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The Skoda Octavia Station wagon.

lovely car but again it flopped.
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If resale value is to be considered, we can add Optra Magnum to this list. I had a small heart attack when a used car dealer quoted the price for my 10 months old car!
What was the quote by the way ?
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What was the quote by the way ?
40% less than OTR
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Zen Carbon & Steel were limited edition(export surplus actually) cars so they cant be called flop as all of them were sold.
In that case it should be a much better built car than whats released in India...I guess.
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