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Old 31st January 2007, 11:25   #76
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Following are cars that I think are flops (Depending on sales)

1. Maruti Esteem diesel
2. Maruti Zen diesel
3. FIAT Palio
4. FIAT Siena/Petra
5. Hyundai Getz
6. Hyundai Terracan
7. Hyundai Sonata
8. TATA Indica (Pre V2)
9. TATA Estate/Siera/Automobile
10. Maruti Versa
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Sreenivas, This topic was discussed in detail a long time back!
There is no point now to opine whether a Car is flop or not!
For me Palio is a damn SUCCESS, for you it may be flop!
Each one his own!
Dear Finney, I understand you are sentimental towards the Palio since you own one and adore it to the core. I possess one and had to buy it after lots of flak. In my opinion it should be termed a flop for one reason - It did not tick sales figures. Any good product which does not appeal to the mass in terms of sales can be a flop. Many people would want to own a Palio GTX but who comes out and really does unless there is a poll?
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Old 31st January 2007, 12:01   #78
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Finney, flop does not mean bad car in all cases. It could mean 'stupid management', 'useless dealers' and 'ignorant public'. In that order.
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Old 31st January 2007, 12:23   #79
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How about the Standard 2000? I hardly see them around these days though I've heard of people running them with matador engines!
Yes, the standard 2000 was one major flop, basically for not providing a good engine. there are a couple of guys here who have plonked toyota diesels and getting FE of 22-26KmPl.
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Old 31st January 2007, 13:00   #80
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Another bigtime flop - the Sipani D-1. I don't recall having seen more than 4 or 5 of them in bangalore at least.
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guys what abt the UNO from fiat? with space,effeciency and compactness, they might have expected an 800's story, but it was the reverse..
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Old 31st January 2007, 14:10   #82
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Total flops:

Rover Montego
Dolphin
San Storm
Peugout 306(or 9 whichever)

Next list:
Versa
Zen Diesel.
Reva
chevy SRV

Debatable:
Baleno
FIAT
Ambassador (current situation)
Bolero Invader. etc...
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guys what abt the UNO from fiat? with space,effeciency and compactness, they might have expected an 800's story, but it was the reverse..
Well I do not know much about it but it sold good numbers for a year or two until the bad service bug hit Fiat on its head.
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The Ford Fusion has flopped by sales, but is a solid built multi purpose car!!
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What about the first model of ford in india, is it escort ? Do you guys think its a flop ?
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Old 31st January 2007, 15:25   #86
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what about the lancer invex by mitsubishi?? i haven seen even one on the road yet
With the Invex if they got the price right, mitsubishi could have pretty much given a new shot of life to the Lancer. If you ask me, the Lancer is one of the all time great designs. Perfectly proportioned, muscular and a car who's boot looked empty without a led Spoiler !! A sign of true rally cred !
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The Ford Fusion has flopped by sales, but is a solid built multi purpose car!!
That is exactly why it is a flop. QED.
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what about the vans....the MB140 , Voyager , Versa....all of em were flops
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How about the Premier Sigma? wasn't it a flop based on a old chinese design. Haven't seen too many of those even at Pune.

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How about the Standard 2000? I hardly see them around these days though I've heard of people running them with matador engines!
Yes Standard 2000 does qualify as a flop car.
The original Rover SD-1 was a stunner. I had this thing on my desktop for sometime. I would still buy it, if it is relaunched with a good engine and good mechanicals. It might give some competition to the skoda or may be to viva.
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