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Old 31st January 2007, 16:10   #91
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what about the vans....the MB140 , Voyager , Versa....all of em were flops
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How about the Premier Sigma? wasn't it a flop based on a old chinese design. Haven't seen too many of those even at Pune.

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Old 31st January 2007, 19:35   #93
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How about the Standard 2000? I hardly see them around these days though I've heard of people running them with matador engines!
Yes Standard 2000 does qualify as a flop car.
The original Rover SD-1 was a stunner. I had this thing on my desktop for sometime. I would still buy it, if it is relaunched with a good engine and good mechanicals. It might give some competition to the skoda or may be to viva.
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Old 31st January 2007, 19:38   #94
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What about the first model of ford in india, is it escort ? Do you guys think its a flop ?
I dont think so, i escort cannot be called as a flop model, atleast in hyderabad, i see a quite lot of these in deisel version. may be the petrol ones could be called as flop model.

P.S: people here still buy the escort deisel. A.F.A.I.K. the deisel escort had the enduratorq engine, the same as in the ikon 1.8D
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Old 31st January 2007, 19:44   #95
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Yes, the standard 2000 was one major flop, basically for not providing a good engine. there are a couple of guys here who have plonked toyota diesels and getting FE of 22-26KmPl.
Are you sure it is not 22-26 mpg???
Buddy, i think i should meet them. Talk about engine swap! ! !.
Where do they live??? I am comming to madras this summer.
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The UNO did sell & was priced very attractively too. It was only after the inept service support came to the fore that it died & another flop(read great) car was released with a promise of better support.
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Ikon 1.3 - wheezy
Octy 2.0 - why bother with the diesel at the same price
Merc E200 - underpowered, also if you have come so far, go the whole hog
Ford Mondeo / Opel Vectra- Outslammed and out priced by the Honda Accord
Versa
Aveo - not that many compared to Fiesta - lack of diesel, have not seen any U-VA beyond the dealer one
Forester - brilliant car but target segment does not exist
Fusion - tries to be everything well but fails
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Ikon 1.3 - wheezy
Octy 2.0 - why bother with the diesel at the same price
Merc E200 - underpowered, also if you have come so far, go the whole hog
Ford Mondeo / Opel Vectra- Outslammed and out priced by the Honda Accord
Versa
Aveo - not that many compared to Fiesta - lack of diesel, have not seen any U-VA beyond the dealer one
Forester - brilliant car but target segment does not exist
Fusion - tries to be everything well but fails
Ikon 1.3: sells pretty decently.
Octy 2.0: Agreed.
Merc E200: Lots of them on the streets here. Most are chauffeur driven, so the owners don't care it they are underpowered as long as they have the Star.
Mondeo/vectra: agreed
Aveo: In mumbai, they are very visible. It entered the market after the fiesta and it doesn't have a diesel, so yes, it is outsold by the fiesta, but hardly a flop!
Forestor: agreed.
Fusion: Nice car, but a petrol hatch at that price was never going to be a success in India.
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Ikon 1.3: sells pretty decently.
Octy 2.0: Agreed.
Merc E200: Lots of them on the streets here. Most are chauffeur driven, so the owners don't care it they are underpowered as long as they have the Star.
Mondeo/vectra: agreed
Aveo: In mumbai, they are very visible. It entered the market after the fiesta and it doesn't have a diesel, so yes, it is outsold by the fiesta, but hardly a flop!
Forestor: agreed.
Fusion: Nice car, but a petrol hatch at that price was never going to be a success in India.
Ikon 1.3 - meant the old endura one
E200 - not many in the south
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Add the Mahindra voyager to the list
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And the Baleno Altura alongwith the Siena Weekend.
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i love the lancer but the Marketing by HM caused it to flop
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That Mahindra MPV which was seen more in red colour which had sliding door on one side.. Damn forgot the name :(

I liked that van but donno why it flopped also the dophins & sipani cars
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That Mahindra MPV which was seen more in red colour which had sliding door on one side.. Damn forgot the name :(
It was the Voyager as Esteem_Lover mentioned earlier.
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Ikon 1.3 - meant the old endura one
U nearly made me jump there...!!!!
Post clarification, it made sense.
The Flair version with the ROCAM engine seems to be really popular from what i have seen in Bangalore (very common).
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