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Old 29th October 2016, 20:41   #2356
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Au contraire: they'll be delighted to. The margins for them per sale and per service on a JEEP, whether the hyper-taxed cbu imports like the Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee or the localized new Compass (2017) and Renegade-like b-suv (that will follow presumably in 2018?) will be SO much higher. Or so one supposes, logically?

The size, location, look and feel of at least these new metro/biggest-city JEEP dealerships do also, on first impression, enable the addition later of say the new Alfa Romeo-s and/or Chryslers? i.e., again, good for the new dealers: small sales numbers but vastly higher margins, no? Like say BMW or JLR or Volvo dealers in India currently, in other words, with JEEPs providing the meat of the sales and service numbers/margins.

As for the current FIAT and soon-to-be combined-with and upgraded-to JEEP ones in some of the smaller cities, in 2017, they'll also be on a vastly better financial footing as a result of the Jeep sales which, after all, will easily match or outdo-by-plenty their (in most cases) tiny, low-margin sales of the FIAT Punto, Linea, Avventura and Abarths.

The real question and doubt, then, i have is different: will FCA and especially its Jeep or 'combined' fewer and newer/upgraded dealers/ASS-centres need FIAT-brand sales in the future in the first place, for minimally-profitable sustainability in India?

If JEEP sales, especially of the localized c-suv/newCompass and the b-suv, are good-margin-and-even-barely-decent: does that make it more or, instead, less likely that FCA will pursue FIAT in India into a next-generation of the Punto, a Linea-replacement, etc, come say 2018/19?

Rather than withdraw the brand from India, after all, focussing completely on engines, Jeeps, Jeep exports, and maybe future cbu or ckd sales of say Alfa Romeo-s or say Chrysler hybridsin the biggest cities?

The increase by FCA recently in the number of non-dealer, third-party yet 'offical' FIATass small centres in many places does point, imo, to the whole question of any next-gen FIAT models to replace the Punto, Linea and Avventura AT ALL being very open rather than just a late/delayed 'given' once they're done with the JEEP launches?

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Old 10th November 2016, 23:03   #2357
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Finally, Mumbai showroom confirmed by Fiat in it's FB page. Fiat-Abarth-Jeep.

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Old 11th November 2016, 03:47   #2358
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JEEP/FCA, being such a diesel-centric firm+brands (in India, especially: the 2 litre mjd2 is being localized) have some rather unpropitious timing, what with the diesel emission blues affecting all firms, given the ngt+dilli air-quality-emergency etc. Foreseeably: this issue is not going away at all.

They'd be well-advised, then, to focus as-much or even-more on the t-jet turbopetrol versions for their upcoming and future models (in different tunes/turbo-formats), as also soon-enough (by 2018?) on some mild-hybrid versions for some of the higher-priced JEEPs that they will assemble/make here (including for export.)
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Old 2nd December 2016, 14:39   #2359
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Unconfirmed news: Fiat is coming up with a service only facility at Wagholi
A new FASC is now open for Pune at Wagholi. Not yet updated in Fiat website but I checked with the number given. Very close to my residence.

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KHT motors' Domlur showroom is getting readied for the Jeep. This was the place where Fiat was also being sold.

Any updates, anyone?
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Guys so which is the functional fiat service center in Pune that can be used to service cars without any heart aches? Heard Jay Vijay also shut shop!
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Guys so which is the functional fiat service center in Pune that can be used to service cars without any heart aches? Heard Jay Vijay also shut shop!
You can use SkyMoto - I know it's not really "Pune" but that's about it!

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Akurdi is fine by me. I just dont know if I can trust them.

Need to get my brake pads changed. Wondering if it would be a better idea to get it done by a FNG instead.
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Akurdi is fine by me. I just dont know if I can trust them.

Need to get my brake pads changed. Wondering if it would be a better idea to get it done by a FNG instead.
On that note (i.e. I just dont know if I can trust them) - any feedback on SkyMoto folks from Fiat owners?
And if at all, FNG is a better option, which ones are best in the Pune city? My Punto MJD is coming up for it's yearly service. So, if SkyMoto is not a good option, I can opt for them.
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On that note (i.e. I just dont know if I can trust them) - any feedback on SkyMoto folks from Fiat owners?
And if at all, FNG is a better option, which ones are best in the Pune city? My Punto MJD is coming up for it's yearly service. So, if SkyMoto is not a good option, I can opt for them.
Well I have been under the impression that Pandit Auto was by far the best followed by Jay Vijay. Sky Moto was the last preference and hence my doubt.

I too am looking for a FNG that I can trust rather than taking pains of going to Sky moto. My experience with Jay Vijay during last service was strictly average.
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Hi,

1. Rudra Motors have opened up in Wagholi, Ph No: 02065425444, they are new, maybe worth a shot, depending on who are the senior technicians there, if they are ex-JV ppl, then might be worth it.

2. Sky Moto's service is ok I think, my friend got his Punto's clutch changed there, the part was in stock, car was delivered on time (3 days) as promised and the bill amount was a decent 8k. I feel currently they are too over worked with amount of cars they are handling, on the flipside they could never fix my previous palio 1.6.

3. Through 99rpm, going to trusted local mechanic is not a bad option.

4. JV's senior technician Nasser, Mob: 09822048214, was good, I don't know where he currently is but you can get in touch with him if he is independently servicing cars or if he has joined something else.

5. I have heard that the Tata service center run by Pandit in Pimpri still services Fiats, not sure, one would need to confirm the same.

Hope it helps.
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Rudra Motors have opened up in Wagholi, Ph No: 02065425444, they are new, maybe worth a shot, depending on who are the senior technicians there, if they are ex-JV ppl, then might be worth it.
Though my experience with Sky moto has been satisfactory, I recommend you to check Rudra motors since majority of old Fiat specialist have shifted from sky moto to Rudra motors.

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JV's senior technician Nasser, Mob: 09822048214, was good, I don't know where he currently is but you can get in touch with him if he is independently servicing cars or if he has joined something else.
He's still with FASS, most probably with Rudra.

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I have heard that the Tata service center run by Pandit in Pimpri still services Fiats, not sure, one would need to confirm the same.
They still service Fiats.
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Two FNGs that I know of which service FIATs:

1. Bhargav Motors just after DSK Toyota on Pune-Mbai highway near Bavdhan. Anil from BU Bhandari (FIAT techie) is with Bhargav and he has awesome tourble shooting capability. They stock FIAT spares. You can also order parts on 99rpm and then take your car here. They specialize in FIAT cars !!

2. Tune Up Plus - Run by one of my friends 'Abhijeet'. He is also good at trouble shooting and do not push things unnecessarily. He caters to all cars from Maruti 800 to Range Rovers and Mercs. I take my car to him and hand over spares which I buy from 99rpm. His garage is situated in Balewadi-Baner.

PM me if you want TuneUpPlus contact details.
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Two FNGs that I know of which service FIATs:
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Went to Bhargav today to get the brake pads and Discs changed. Also got normal service done. Positive experience. Guess will be a repeat customer with them for the intermediate services.
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Fiat as a brand doesn't have much to work on in the Indian context. Once they run out of ideas in working out the veterans Linea and Punto, they don't have many models in their portfolio to bring to India. Globally they are heavily reliant on the 500 series and the newer models like the Tipo are not getting any favourable reviews either.
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