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Old 9th May 2006, 21:49   #31
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This is all about railways.

Agreed. The rates will increase. Thats the only disadvantage. But does that mean that we stay like this forever using such 3rd grade quality trains that don't have proper doors, that are 24hrs crowded, whose compartments are dirty. Tell me seriously do you think these trains are worth it?! .
you get what you pay for. for the smallest increase in fair, railways gets strong protests from the commuters. and then you expect better infrastructure?

we believe in cheap living, and that's what we get.

same goes for the school boys being able to go to their school in 1 Rs. can they aspire for getting a safe school bus with stop signs in all sides? no, because we want everything cheap.

I would want that for my kids when they need it. and that's a high priority for me, rather than saving few bucks with public transport.
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I believe in US, this problem is solved by subsidizing rural areas,and charging surcharges in urban areas (Universal Service Fund).
may be this can be done even in case of trasport.but we need an authority like FCC to enable it, not our politicians
The moment we start subsidizing rural areas, there will be sudden crop of bus operators, who will "show" that they are operating in rural areas and enjoy subsidy (some of them won't even have buses to ply). To curb this, police will step in and in turn, will grease their palms. Overall, defeating the purpose.
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In chennai weird forms of transports in the form of call taxi, share auto, share taxi and all that.

I dont know what is a call taxi. All taxis needs to be called !@
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In chennai weird forms of transports in the form of call taxi, share auto, share taxi and all that.

I dont know what is a call taxi. All taxis needs to be called !@
you can make a phone call and call them. generally it's a goup which has a number of taxis and dispatches the nearest one to your location.

Else you need to stand on road and stretch ur hand out for a taxi.
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No point putting AC and automatic doors, it will very good if they put, coz average distance between stations takes 3 mins, so by the time one station goes and another comes, no time for AC to chill around even if the blowers are there on the doors it cant beat the heat.
Even trains like Rajdhani are not that cool when it starts the journey even if they start the generators one and half hour before departure time.
And for doors, crowd is too much. For that they have increase frequency of trains but then only 4 stations at main terminals (eg.Churchgate) the whole thing will come to standstill.
All great points F50 and no doubt you have used the system and know the reality.
But the A/C has to be more powerful to compensate for it. I mean every public building which is A/C has an automatic door and people are walking in and out every 2 minutes, but still the building manages to stay cool.

London, NYC, Chicago......all these places have similar train routes. 3 minutes between stops, but still they manage to provide good service.

Another reason for the door is safety........prevent people from hanging out and falling off. It will be accepted only if its forcefully implemented.
I mean, are we complaining about doors in elevators?? If the elevator is overflowing, the door wont close and people voluntarily step back and wait for the next one.
Why cant the public behave similarly in a bus or a train ???
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every one here has good ideas so here's my 2 cents... double decker trains

if you think about it... it will double the capacity (obviously there is cost involved but it can be done on existing lines)
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Yes privatisation will definitely help a lot !!
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every one here has good ideas so here's my 2 cents... double decker trains

if you think about it... it will double the capacity (obviously there is cost involved but it can be done on existing lines)
Inspired by Long Island Rail Road? they only work for the seating junta. u lose the standing numbers if you go for double decker trains. making it higher to accomodate standing rows will just not be possible for existing gauges.
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Chicago's Metra has double decker and the top floor has narrow asiles so that standing is simply not possible. (lower CG)

But, since Indian surburban trains are electric, there will be a major tearup to raise the electric poles and cables.
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privatising wont solve the purpose either as the private operate will not be that responsible and this will lead to more cases of rash and negligient driving.
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