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Old 7th July 2014, 15:58   #256
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Suzuki to launch a new low-cost MPV based on Celerio, primarily targeting asian countries - Indonesia and India, rivaling the just released Datsun GO +.


http://autonetmagz.com/suzuki-celeri...o-panca/17371/
If this is going to be true, Suzuki can make this 7-seater under 4m and put the 1.2L K-series engine, and price it around 5L for the base variant!

And they can stretch Ertiga a bit more to provide more space in the 3rd row and boot, and make it more premium.
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Suzuki to launch a new low-cost MPV based on Celerio, primarily targeting asian countries - Indonesia and India, rivaling the just released Datsun GO +.
The uglification of Indian roads is well & truly underway with nothing to stop it anytime soon. Datsun Go+, Honda Mobilio, this MPV, Honda Amaze, Hyundai Xcent, Maruti Dzire. The list keeps on getting bigger & bigger!
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Autoevolution reviews the S Cross (1.6 Petrol), drawing comparison with Duster.

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When it came to the design, Suzuki took things to the next level with the S-Cross. Thus, aerodynamics played a more important role here, elements like the gently sloping roof line, as well as the low-draw wheels and door mirrors, tell the story.
In both areas, the S-Cross leaps ahead of the Dacia Duster, offering more of an upmarket image
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The only drawback the S-Cross presents when compared to the French affair regards the infotainment part. While the Duster's facelift has brought the R-Link touchscreen infotainment display, such a gadget can't be found in the Suzuki, not even on the list of optional extras.
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The cabin offers a positive experience, with both front and rear passengers enjoying good space. The story continues at the back, where the 430 liters (15.2 cubic feet) luggage compartment is among the largest in the segment and the the ease of folding the rear setbacks.
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The visibility is good, while the optional panoramic sunroof, another aspect that positions the SX4 S-Cross ahead of the Dacia Duster, brings a pleasant experience for all occupants to enjoy – this can be opened almost fully
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As far as the driver is concerned, the feeling remains that of a hatchback, albeit one that rides higher. Speaking of this, Suzuki has adapted itself to the market's requirements when it came to the ground clearance. Compared to the old SX4 came, the S-Cross drops 20 mm (0.8 inches) to 170 mm (6.7 inches).
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Through the city during rush hour and the S-Cross has that typical C-segment agility. And while some of its competitors, Duster included, have a sort of drivetrain inertia, making the driver aware of the friction going on under the car, the S-Cross belongs to the group of smoother operators.
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The engine feels just right for the car inside the city, while the long ratios of the manual favor fuel efficiency
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In terms of suspension, it's never easy to achieve a good compromise between ride and handling when it comes to a crossover with passive suspension. The Japanese have done a decent job at this, and yet we recommend sticking to the 16-inch wheels
[quote]On open roads, as well as on the highway, the S-Cross shows a fair handling, offering a little bit more than the Dacia Duster does./QUOTE]
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The engine delivers 120 hp at 6,000 rpm and 156 Nm (115 lb-ft) at 4,400 rpm. A glance at the performance figures, 11 seconds for the 0 to 100 km/h sprint and an 180 km/h (112 mph) top speed, place the S-Cross in the slower half of the class. In the real world though, the in-gear acceleration is a bit better than that, so the overall experience is fine.
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The SX4 S-Cross is no stranger to the notion of safety though. In fact, this is an area where it excels. It all starts with the overall setup of the car, which determines you to keep things peaceful. With the help of features such as seven airbags, ESP and rear disc brakes, the S-Cross has achieved a five-star Euro NCAP rating.
http://www.autoevolution.com/reviews...view-2014.html

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Maruti, please refrain from launching this bare-basic utilitarian cargo vehicle. Please don't destroy your reputation and image in passenger car segment.
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Maruti, please refrain from launching this bare-basic utilitarian cargo vehicle. Please don't destroy your reputation and image in passenger car segment.
This will be more of a distraction to Maruthi. This product belong to a different segment that Maruti is not familiar with at all. Unless Maruti is planning to bring more commercial vehicles, they should not enter this market, leave it to the ALs,
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It would be better if Maruti Suzuki India Limited come up with a completely new brand name for their commercial vehicle arm in India. The rest of the world only knows too well that Indians are the most notoriously non-egalitarian bunch (and have always been so), and sticking a Suzuki badge on this Tata Ace competitor is not going to go down well with its car buyers. Even using the earlier Maruti name and logo may be frowned upon, as there are people who still equate Maruti Suzuki with Maruti and believe it is an "Indian" company.

Like Daimler of Germany (who had to come up with a new brand called BharatBenz and more importantly, a logo that has nothing in common with a three-pointed star), Suzuki of Japan will have to think of a new name and logo for their commercial vehicle arm. They may also reward the best performing dealers of their massive, widespread dealer network by allowing them to sell these trucks, but they will certainly be asked to have separate showrooms and service centres.

With this mini-truck, Suzuki are all set to become a very diverse player (only after Mahindra and Tata perhaps) in the Indian automobile landscape, by manufacturing everything from two-wheelers to trucks (albeit small ones).

Lest I forget, the greatest damage will be done if Maruti Suzuki use the 2-cylinder 800cc diesel engine (that is going to power this mini-truck) in the Celerio or the Alto or even the Eeco (unless the Eeco is shifted from the passenger vehicle range to the commercial vehicle range). FE may be very important to Indians, but it comes only after dissimilarity (visual & aural) to an auto-rickshaw.



That kind of engine noise is acceptable in a mini-truck, but not in a car no matter how fuel-efficient it is going to be. Just ask the Nano. A 900cc or 1000cc 3-cyl. common-rail diesel would be more appropriate for their small car range.

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At a time when Honda moves to make aircrafts (http://www.hondajet.com) and increase their brand image, Suzuki is trying to make cheap cargo vehicles!

Just like I am not that easy to drive a car that every cabbie drives, I don't want to drive a car from a brand whose vehicles carry vegetables. As simple, cruel and rude as that.
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Just like I am not that easy to drive a car that every cabbie drives, I don't want to drive a car from a brand whose vehicles carry vegetables. As simple, cruel and rude as that.
The thing is, the MNCs who manufacture these vehicles couldn't care less about this. Or even Tata and Mahindra, for that matter. Good for them!

They are in the business of automotive manufacturing, and they will make and sell whatever makes them money. The smarter ones do realise that the attitude you mentioned is very widespread indeed, and will naturally try to work around it (like Daimler AG did).

So don't worry, your car's brand name in all likelihood is not going to get "sullied" by gracing the front grilles of those motorised vegetable carrying carts. There is a distant possibility they may be branded Maruti and carry the winged logo, as opposed to Maruti Suzuki and its S logo, but that's only a worst case (and most probably, unlikely) scenario. I'm willing to bet it's going to be an all new name and logo. Their ads would probably mention at the very bottom (or end) that they are backed by Maruti and Suzuki, names that have earned the trust of millions.

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That kind of engine noise is acceptable in a mini-truck, but not in a car no matter how fuel-efficient it is going to be. Just ask the Nano. A 900cc or 1000cc 3-cyl. common-rail diesel would be more appropriate for their small car range.
OMG that possibly could be the worst sounding diesel passenger vehicle. Period! Hope Maruti scraps the idea of bringing this puny 2 cylinder engine with power rating of 35 PS, in the Celerio. If people think that the Nano sounds like an auto-rickshaw, this diesel Celerio sounds like a spoilt mixer grinder.
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Any attempt of Maruti to sell it through its existing dealer network will be akin to committing suicide. Tata, and Toyota to some extent are still trying hard to avoid this commercial image.
However I am sure that Maruti will try some other route. They are very well aware of the negatives of this cheap image. They tried their level best not to sell new dzire and ertiga to commercial segment for the first few days. This proves that they have this on their mind.
They should leave that 800cc turbodiesel for their LCV's. I don't know what is stopping them from using that 1.0L derivative of MJD which Beat uses. That IMHO will be more suited for its small cars.
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It would be better if Maruti Suzuki India Limited come up with a completely new brand name for their commercial vehicle arm in India.
Yes, they can name the commercial vehicle brand as 'OMNI'. They can discontinue current Omni by introducing an 800CC Eeco to replace it.

IMO, Maruti can have 3 separate brands in India as:

1: Omni brand for its commercial vehicles
2: Maruti brand for its cars ranging upto 5L (Alto, WR, Celerio, Eeco)
3: Suzuki brand for cars above 5L (Ritz, Swift, DZire, SX4, Ertiga etc)
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It would be better if Maruti Suzuki India Limited come up with a completely new brand name for their commercial vehicle arm in India. The rest of the world only knows too well that Indians are the most notoriously non-egalitarian bunch (and have always been so), and sticking a Suzuki badge on this Tata Ace competitor is not going to go down well with its car buyers. Even using the earlier Maruti name and logo may be frowned upon, as there are people who still equate Maruti Suzuki with Maruti and believe it is an "Indian" company.
OT: As a mass market brand, how different is Maruti-Suzuki from a Tata or a M&M? I mean, if those brands can have commercial vehicles and passenger cars under the same brand name, it should work well for Suzuki as well. IMO, people buy a Suzuki more for its value than the brand image.
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...That kind of engine noise is acceptable in a mini-truck, but not in a car no matter how fuel-efficient it is going to be...
Man, that sounds like a diesel rick! There is still a long way to go before maruti gets this in their cars.
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S Cross on road test again, spied in NCR for first time. Diesel variant still a mystery - MJD or Peugeot?

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S cross spied with noticeable differences to the one displayed at the Auto Expo 14.

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1.Suzuki S-cross have DRL Projector , Indicators on side mirror that is missing on Spied Version - Variant ?
2.The Spied version have hood scoop that is not available on Suzuki S-cross
3.Suzuki S-Cross have 3 layered front grille but Indian version is coming with totally newly designed 2 layered front grille

4. 16" alloys with 185/65 R15 tyre.
5. Rear bumper where fog light between the reflectors is missing
6. No LED bulbs used in rear brake light . Brake light are very similar to Suzuki S-Cross


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S-cross could beats all its rival in terms of Ground clearance as it seems very good while crossing from and 150mm Speed braker .
It seemed Powered by minimum of 1.5 Ltr Diesel engine because during the 3 hour long chase yesterday was drivenby the 1.3 ltr DDIS engine powered vehicle and tried to overtake at this camouflaged vehicle at high speed on traffic free roads but we fails to do . It's engine is very quick then Maruti's current diesel engine that was drivien


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