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Old 29th January 2013, 16:08   #61
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Anyways under 4m, swift platform means there is no way they are going to make it 7 seater. Already the swift is cramped for space and there is hardly 100 odd mm left to increase length !!
At 3675mm, Eeco offers 7 seats - though with limited comfort. If the XA-Alpha comes with increased height than Swift, then there won't be any issue for Maruti to incorporate 7 seats under 4m length. Even 2 jump seats at the third row will do.
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At 3675mm, Eeco offers 7 seats - though with limited comfort. If the XA-Alpha comes with increased height than Swift, then there won't be any issue for Maruti to incorporate 7 seats under 4m length. Even 2 jump seats at the third row will do.
Omni can accomodate 10-15 people too isnt it ? I agree with you, but eeco doesnt start at 7 lakhs+ so people who pay so much expect good space.

I forgot about jump seats like Quanto.

But if this is really true, then It will be another feature in Maruti suzuki cap for constantly inventing awesome products for india. Be it Omni or Ertiga, small size and small engine, yet they offer good space for entire family
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At 3675mm, Eeco offers 7 seats - though with limited comfort. If the XA-Alpha comes with increased height than Swift, then there won't be any issue for Maruti to incorporate 7 seats under 4m length. Even 2 jump seats at the third row will do.
Aren't we getting a little side-tracked here? We are speaking about a mini-SUV here and not a van. For the SUV look, you should have a minimum length reserved for an almost flat and long bonnet which Eeco doesn't have. Since it is based on the Swift platform, we can expect the front area to be of similar size as Swift/Dzire. That doesn't leave too much space at the rear even for jump seats unless they make the middle row too cramped. That would make it a 2+5 seater instead of Ertiga's 5+2.

I would prefer a comfortable 5-seater than a 7 seater with just 2 comfortable seats at the front.

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I forgot about jump seats like Quanto.
This would need 5 jump seats

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eeco doesnt start at 7 lakhs+ so people who pay so much expect good space.
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For the SUV look, you should have a minimum length reserved for an almost flat and long bonnet which Eeco doesn't have. Since it is based on the Swift platform, we can expect the front area to be of similar size as Swift/Dzire.
I agree, but what Quanto offers at around 7L? Has a decent bonnet area, and have the 5 + 1/2 + 1/2 seat configuration. And is flying off the showrooms! If M&M offers such a product, Maruti will surely go that way, IMO!
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It seems like the new Ritz/ Spalsh
Yes, now I think it could be the rear-lifted Ritz too!

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2013/01...ace-lift-2013/

Face-lifted SX4 on the way in China. Will this be the one that come to India too?
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Yes, now I think it could be the rear-lifted Ritz too!

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2013/01...ace-lift-2013/

Face-lifted SX4 on the way in China. Will this be the one that come to India too?
This one (SX4) looks much better that the one they have planned for India.

Suzuki should also work on new petrol engines for the SX4, the existing 1.6L is long in the tooth, easily giving way to competitors to similarly sized engines.
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Face-lifted SX4
Face-lifted? On the contrary, i feel someone heavy sat on the bonnet portion of the current SX4!

Dont think we would be getting this one. This low slung face does not have the road presence to take on competition, unlike the previous gen SX4 hatch.
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Face-lifted? On the contrary, i feel someone heavy sat on the bonnet portion of the current SX4!
IMO, this one takes a lot of design cues from the Chinese A-Star's front side!
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This would need 5 jump seats
I wonder why car manufacturers decided to make the front row seat only two instead of three in budget models. A 6-seater under 4m is doable with such a setup. Then again, it would have the comfort of an 8-seater autorickshaw if they really went into budget cutting and value for money.
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I wonder why car manufacturers decided to make the front row seat only two instead of three in budget models. A 6-seater under 4m is doable with such a setup. Then again, it would have the comfort of an 8-seater autorickshaw if they really went into budget cutting and value for money.
More than anything else, I would put it as safety reasons. Remember the days of Ambassadors and Padminis where people got stuffed into front and rear benches. The drivers usually got a little space on the far right from which he had to control the entire car. Such a vehicle is a safety threat not just to all the passengers in the car but the fellow road users too. I certainly don't want to travel in a car where the guy sitting next to the driver might accidentally move his legs and ends up pressing the clutch.

Such a configuration would end up as a more powerful "share-auto" with 4 wheels on our roads!

For those who are not aware of what a "share-auto" is, they are regular sized autorikshaws that run around in the Hyderabad roads carrying 8-9 adults.
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...Face-lifted SX4 on the way in China. Will this be the one that come to India too?
SX4 lost all its masculinity with this change! I still like the current looks of it. Hope they do retain some of those manly looks!
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Source: http://www.cartrade.com/car-bike-new...20five%20years

"...to introduce 10 new models in the domestic auto sector, over the next five years. The company will launch new products across all major vehicle segments of Indian auto market, including the light commercial class of vehicles.As per industry sources, Maruti Suzuki has set a target of increasing its vehicle manufacturing output to 3 million units over the next five years."

Hope this doesn't include stupid and useless facelifts like those given to Estilo, Ritz and SX4 (as proved by the sales charts), but some drastic changes like those given to DZire, and also some new and aspirational models like Ertiga.

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I think Maruti plans also include a diesel Wagaon-R. That thread has been locked till concrete information is available.
My neighbour is interested in Wagon-R diesel if it is getting launched in 2 months or less.
Does any one know if it will come by then?
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Source: http://www.hindustantimes.com/Busine...1-1007180.aspx

"production may be stopped in the latter half of the year around the festive season. A new car would be launched around the same time, but it won’t be a replacement,” said a vendor. The new car in question is expected to be the latest version of the A-Star, and is in the last stages of development in Japan.
The company, however, denied any plans to discontinue the Estilo. “We have no plans to stop production of Estilo. We have a flexible manufacturing system that allows us to adjust production of cars according to their demand,” a company spokesperson said."


The new one is the Chinese A-Star or the new car shown in the previous page? Can we expect a true replacement that gives justice to the old jelly bean shaped ZEN? As I mentioned earlier, an elongated A-Star (3700 - 3750mm) with better rear leg and boot space, matured front looks, with a 1/1.2 Litre K-series engine and named as ZEN will do it! Price it around the 3.8-5L range, and it will give a tough fight to the competitors at that price range.

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Source: http://indianautosblog.com/2013/02/s...+Autos+blog%29

"Suzuki teases S-Cross-based crossover debuting at Geneva"

Seems like a very rugged-looking car this time. It would be a sales hit in India if launched in this avatar, but a disaster if launched as a sedan, as the profile is good only for SUV'ish model and not for sedan.
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