Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 15th May 2013, 10:06   #241
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ghaziabad
Posts: 1,007
Thanked: 760 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by anandpadhye View Post
BTW, would Thar be able to do this?
Yes, it would. But, it would need to have a Lift, Lockers, and redesigned Bumpers. Two OEM Thar's failed to clear this (first 2-3 holes). One heavily Modified Thar managed to complete this challenge, but after the depth of the holes was reduced a bit by filling them up with soil.

Quote:
Originally Posted by anandpadhye View Post
Any idea what's the reality of Gurkha? Does it come with well designed breather tubes and seals for the diffs, gear-box, etc? How will the axle bearing survive water fording?
Cheers!
Breather Tubes - Yes
Seals - Yes
BUT, and a BIIIG BUT - Water is NEVER kind to ANY Vehicle. Even after a vehicle has been prepared for Fording, certain care is necessary. I believe there is an entire thread running on TBHP on this subject. You would generally need to clean up a lot of stuff, replace a lot of oils after a significant water crossing. One big risk with both C-In-C and Tubular Chassis is that of Water entering inside the Chassis, and staying inside to cause Corrossion. So, your Chassis must be properly sealed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyWheels View Post
can you please share where are the breathers located in a stock vehicle? Hope they are extended to somewhere higher.
I don't have a picture ready. But, I know where they were located originally. The Front Diff Breather ended at just below Bonnet height in a Capped Plastic cup.
The Rear Diff Breather was much Lower, and was routed up to the Chassis Member and strapped there.
The IDEAL thing to do with the Gurkha is to route the Diff Breather's to the top of the Snorkel.

Last edited by roy_libran : 15th May 2013 at 10:16.
roy_libran is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 15th May 2013, 11:31   #242
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: in a Toyota!
Posts: 2,686
Thanked: 595 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

The face of Gurkha kept me away last night and it bothered me again and again...

..Then i went to the box containing the toy cars of my daughter, and managed to dig out the inspiration behind the new face of the Gurkha.

The headlights and the chin of the Gurkha is similar to Mater.

Here lies the inspiration of the Gurkha!
Attached Thumbnails
Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs-walt_disney_tow_mater_besthdwallpaper_com_1280x800_9127.jpg  

Attached Images
 
Parm is offline   (26) Thanks
Old 15th May 2013, 11:54   #243
Senior - BHPian
 
desertfox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR
Posts: 1,187
Thanked: 525 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
People often confuse between grade and degrees. They mean 70% gradient, which turns out to be just 35 degree in angle from the horizontal.

http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...6113129AAupg3p
In off roading circles, and for that matter I happen to be a Pilot as well does anybody anywhere in the world calculate off road approach to climbs in gradient.

By simple trignometric formula Tan 45 = 1
This is about the maximum a good off road vehicle can safely negotiate.

Over and above this say a 60 % slope, tan 60 = 1.73 which is Pi/3 radians

The inclinometers of most of the Pajeros and Prados show a + or - 30 degree incline.

Attitude indicators are caliberated only till + or - 30 deg maximum what is visible in normal display before the ball rolls down or up is upto 20 degrees.

The climbs and dunes shown by Roy Libran are all pretty solid and hard ground put any MM550, CJ3B or even the Thar in Low 3 and just roll over them without batting and eyelid. All this will be classified as Grade 1 beginners stuff when it comes to experienced off road drivers.
desertfox is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 12:03   #244
Newbie
 
ID-Tech's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: mumbai
Posts: 2
Thanked: 0 Times
Unhappy Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

The extended air intakes look like Drainage Pipes . Force Motors should have atleast referred to the LandRovers for design and style cues and maybe integrated a stylish intake rather than this looking like an after thought.
ID-Tech is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:24   #245
adc
Senior - BHPian
 
adc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Kolkata
Posts: 1,346
Thanked: 2,100 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by roy_libran View Post
My vehicle is now 60K kms old.
How has been the tyre wear of your vehicle or other Gurkhas that you may have seen? normal or any issues that you know of or suspect.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Parm View Post
Here lies the inspiration of the Gurkha!
Good find!! Somehow, though still just a little bit, the all black colour somewhat mutes that dreadful front part. For the yellowish green or red colours, the front part is more grotesque.

Last edited by adc : 15th May 2013 at 14:45.
adc is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 14:45   #246
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ghaziabad
Posts: 1,007
Thanked: 760 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by adc View Post

How has been the tyre wear of your vehicle or other Gurkhas that you may have seen? normal or any issues that you know of or suspect.
Lest I introduce any subjectivity in my response, I'll let a picture do the talking. This is a 5 minute old snapshot for tyres that have now been used for 20000 kms on and off road.

Name:  ForumRunner_20130515_144425.png
Views: 1629
Size:  454.9 KB
roy_libran is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 15th May 2013, 22:20   #247
BHPian
 
Saptarshi B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 110
Thanked: 9 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai View Post
It is evident? How? I too like to look at the 70 degree climb, I didn't know Indian vehicles can do that.
Take a test drive from a fellow bhpian and then conclude
Saptarshi B is offline  
Old 15th May 2013, 22:35   #248
BHPian
 
starter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 910
Thanked: 267 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saptarshi B View Post
Take a test drive from a fellow bhpian and then conclude
Maybe you should read this thread.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...-road-too.html (Trax Gurkha Test Drive on Horrible roads and Off-road too)
Cheers,
Deepak
starter is offline   (3) Thanks
Old 15th May 2013, 22:52   #249
BHPian
 
Saptarshi B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 110
Thanked: 9 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parm View Post
The face of Gurkha kept me away last night and it bothered me again and again...

..Then i went to the box containing the toy cars of my daughter, and managed to dig out the inspiration behind the new face of the Gurkha.

The headlights and the chin of the Gurkha is similar to Mater.

Here lies the inspiration of the Gurkha!
Spot on. Though Mater might look a bit better than the Gurkha !
Saptarshi B is offline  
Old 16th May 2013, 00:09   #250
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: in a Toyota!
Posts: 2,686
Thanked: 595 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

This older variant looks better than the current "Mater" look alike, which was specially made for the Indian Army.
Attached Images
 
Parm is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 16th May 2013, 06:09   #251
BHPian
 
slalom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: " Deep " in God's Own Country !!
Posts: 183
Thanked: 88 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parm View Post
This older variant looks better than the current "Mater" look alike, which was specially made for the Indian Army.
A thousand times better , I wonder how people come up with design cues which makes no sense at all , do they even consider form or function ?
The older Gurkha looks classic !
slalom is offline  
Old 16th May 2013, 07:25   #252
Distinguished - BHPian
 
4x4addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Chennai
Posts: 3,974
Thanked: 2,497 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saptarshi B View Post
Take a test drive from a fellow bhpian and then conclude
Guess you are the new kid on the block. There is a search feature in Team-Bhp. Samurai had posted the first ever comprehensive review on Gurkha..

Last edited by Samurai : 16th May 2013 at 08:21. Reason: changed 'was' to 'had'
4x4addict is offline   (4) Thanks
Old 16th May 2013, 11:20   #253
Senior - BHPian
 
AyAn!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Durgapur/Calcutta/Pune
Posts: 2,167
Thanked: 850 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parm View Post
The face of Gurkha kept me away last night and it bothered me again and again...

..Then i went to the box containing the toy cars of my daughter, and managed to dig out the inspiration behind the new face of the Gurkha.

The headlights and the chin of the Gurkha is similar to Mater.

Here lies the inspiration of the Gurkha!
Man! I happen to know the designer personally and I don't think he'd be too glad to see this particular post!

But I don't blame him. He did what he was told to to do. Designers don't always have their own way.
AyAn! is offline  
Old 16th May 2013, 12:39   #254
AVR
BHPian
 
AVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Ahmedabad
Posts: 930
Thanked: 511 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by AyAn! View Post
Man! I happen to know the designer personally and I don't think he'd be too glad to see this particular post!

But I don't blame him. He did what he was told to to do. Designers don't always have their own way.
Unfortunate that he'll be held responsible for inducing ugliness into a vehicle that looked quite alright to begin with. Would love to know how he would have designed it differently if he had his way. Will help people get pointers into what all is possible to reduce the ugliness. Please do ask him if he can share

Cheers,
Adi
AVR is offline  
Old 16th May 2013, 14:48   #255
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: N.A
Posts: 6,834
Thanked: 1,503 Times
Default Re: Force Gurkha on sale again. Launched @ 6.25 Lakhs

Quote:
Originally Posted by AyAn! View Post
Man! I happen to know the designer personally and I don't think he'd be too glad to see this particular post!
Send us his email ID, we will forward the link anonymously. He deserves to see this thread - if only so that he doesnt create more such ugliness.
Steeroid is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Buying a Force Gurkha!! Monster_BHP SUVs, MUVs & 4x4s 87 15th July 2016 23:25
SCOOP Pics & Video - 2013 Force Gurkha satya180 The Indian Car Scene 62 16th February 2013 08:49
Pre-Release Test Ride : New Gurkha 4x4 @ Force Motors Pune mohan 4x4 Vehicles 97 16th February 2013 08:47
Force Motors Launched Force Trip Mini Van KMohanan Commercial Vehicles 13 1st September 2011 10:19
Force Gurkha on sand! Monster_BHP 4x4 Excursions 48 5th September 2008 18:04


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 00:54.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks