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Old 14th July 2014, 21:01   #586
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The Ertiga had different A/C for LDI and VDI/ZDI. Eager to know the air conditioning in Mobilio. Anybody got a chance to try that out?
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Different A/C in the sense?

Is it the arrangement or controls?

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I guess except for the Rear Air Con (Blower with cooling coil) for V and Z variants, the AC in all variants of Ertiga are the same.
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Hey guys, I have a query regarding the Honda iDtec engine. I read in one of the reviews that the engine is limited to a top speed of 140, that the red line is low even for a diesel and that Honda has put restrictions on how much one can rev the engine in neutral or while standing still. Now I also read that this diesel features aluminium head. I thought the diesel engines were made of iron to improve its durability or (help it withstand the additional torque? I am not an expert ).

Putting all this together, has Honda taken all those measures (restricted top speed, lower redline and cap on engine revs when in neutral) to offset for less-stronger-than-iron aluminium head? Will this engine hold up as well as the other modern diesels post 1/1.5 lakh KM?
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i believe cars are already reaching showrooms here in Mumbai? any clues about this?
Yes , I can confirm that the cars have reached dealers in Hyderabad.A friend of mine went to book the City on Saturday and he got a chance to look at the Mobilo.I guess it would be same across all locations.


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Will this engine hold up as well as the other modern diesels post 1/1.5 lakh KM?
Hello Kedar,

Iam sure reliability should not be an issue here. Aluminum engines are definitely not new.The complete details on IDtec were clearly captured on the Amaze official review and Honda has definitely put in time and effort to address the stability of its IDtec.


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My view:
1. This can't be a honda car! It has no characteristics of a Honda machine.
2. If this is priced higher than Mobilio just for the H brand, it is doomed to fail. I don't see any better value in Mobilio compared to Ertiga
3. As a buyer, I will book Ertiga, even without doing a TD of Mobilio.

Awaiting team-bhp official review...
Hello Guru,

Thanks for pointing out the differences , It was evident from the pics that the rear bench was compromised.It was a similar debate (Not a Honda car) that happened when Amaze was launched based on the interiors.
But eventually the Amaze did sell in decent numbers I agree definitely no where to be compared to the Dezire. I too feel that the Ertiga will remain a more VFM between the two and as you already said lets wait for the official review.

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Honda has started marketing Mobilio aggressively. Surely it is going to compete with Ertiga & Innova, both. Top end Mobilio will target base Innova customers for sure. It will have tough fight with Ertiga for sure.

So my guess is Honda will take few numbers from Ertiga. Maruti need not to worry, they will get those numbers back with Ciaz from Honda City for sure
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HI all, was away on a personal trip, in my good old Santro, back now and can see quite a few really interesting posts in the last few days on this thread!

Since there are lots of opinions shared by multiple people here on the topic of where the Mobilio fits in, where it doesn't, and whose customers would it cut into, let me also present my viewpoint on each of those three:


Where the Mobilio fits in: right in between the Ertiga and the Innova, closer to the Ertiga for sure, much closer!

Having tried both the cars at phoenix mall lower parel (Mobilio at the honda stall, and Ertiga at the sai service dealer there), I see the Mobilio having more powerful engines, better fuel economy, better looks, extra space, more flexibility in seating and boot area, and overall the honda badge, which i hope will mean longevity, safety and quality.

Ertiga scores more in interior looks and better thigh support in 3rd row, albeit with less length.

Comparison with the Innova I will take up in just a moment.

Where it doesn't fit: as an apple-to-apple comparison with the Innova, or the Innova segment overall.

Let’s admit it, it’s nowhere close in space or price (one hopes). Hence, it does not really fit for any long journeys; i think anything over even 1 hour with all 7 seats occupied is a total no-no, not even 30 mins i think if all those 7 are adults, perfect at the most maybe for that close drive from office to nearby hotel for a (7-member) team lunch at most!



Whose customers it will cut into: certainly some Honda-City guys, who are Honda fans and won't mind it being on a brio-platform due to benefits mentioned above.

Certainly some Ertiga guys, especially those who are more inclined towards Honda overall, and benefits mentioned above.

Now comes the part about the Innova, and I feel that some of the quotes above are valid: some people, who feel the Ertiga is not big enough / prefer quality of Honda / Toyota, might actually prefer the slightly smaller (easier to park in metros etc), quite a bit cheaper (one hopes) and much more frugal Mobilio, over the Innova!

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Folks- I have been a silent spectator on this thread for weeks now and my 2 cents below

A lot has been said on the "target audience" of the Mobilio and I for one believe it fits my needs to the T. Let me elaborate

I am an average IT Joe based out of Bangalore. My daily commute is about 40 kilometers from my home in BSK 3rd STG to my Office at EGL Koramangala. I hit peak hour traffic both ways and on average takes me about 3 hours to commute. This is my schedule Monday to Friday. On Friday evenings or Saturday early morning I drive to my farm at Sakaleshpur which is about 250kms away on a butter smooth tolled national highway.

I commute alone to work on week-days and during the week-end farm runs I am accompanied by my wife, 6 year old son and 3 year old German shepherd. My parents occasionally join us as well. We currently own a 2006 Baleno LXI, 2007 Swift VXI and 2011 Alto LXI. The swift is my daily commute and wifey uses the Alto to drive to work.

My needs while looking to upgrade the swift were as below.

1. Fuel efficient Diesel
2. Supreme reliability with safety features
3. Space for 4 Adults + 1 Big Dog
4. Relative smaller dimensions for city use

We have test driven the Eco-Sport, Ertiga, Innova and Fortuner(just for kicks) so far in our quest. We own a Xylo and Scorpio in the family but ruled both out as my son gets car sick fairly easily in both these.

Of these we narrowed down on the Innova at first but had a horrendous time navigating through peak hour traffic during the test drive. Though a very good package overall, I definably cannot do this on a daily basis!

We then checked out the Ertiga and were happy with it except for 2 reasons, Turbo lag in city driving, Looked too similar inside to the swift that I have been driving for all these years.

I checked out the Mobilio at Mantri Mall last week-end and am pretty happy with what it offers. I have seen the reviews so far online and am fairly confident this should meet 85-90% of my needs. I know there are trade-offs but then that's life :-).

Apologies on the super long post (my very first on TBHP!) and thank you for reading!
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I am an average IT Joe based out of Bangalore. .... On Friday evenings or Saturday early morning I drive to my farm at Sakaleshpur which is about 250kms away
Average IT Joe, eh ?
On a serious note, your needs do seem to be a good fit to go with the Mobilio.
Saw an ad in today's Indian Express newspaper for the Mobilio.

Would definitely be tuned in to hear your test drive experience to see if it really meets the peak hour maneuverability aspect for you.
Also looking forward to the TBHP official review
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Average IT Joe, eh ?
On a serious note, your needs do seem to be a good fit to go with the Mobilio.
Saw an ad in today's Indian Express newspaper for the Mobilio.

Would definitely be tuned in to hear your test drive experience to see if it really meets the peak hour maneuverability aspect for you.
Also looking forward to the TBHP official review
I also loved caadmara's comments, quite a few things match with my needs too, such as maneuverability in city traffic.

In fact, waiting and waiting for the official TBHP review, since that is what brings me to this site: the unbiased review which looks into issues important to mango people like us!

Any idea when is that happening?

And if the guys going for that review are reading this, then request them to please inquire about the automatic option. At least let the boffins at Honda know that there is a genuine demand for it in the market, absolutely no other 7-seater, big or small, has it, so they would have the first mover advantage!
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Link to watch launch of Honda Mobilio live on 23rd July at 11am.

https://www.hondacarindia.com/Mobilio/Index.aspx
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Mod Note: The Official Honda Mobilio Review has been taken live at this link (Honda Mobilio : Official Review). Please continue the discussion over on the review thread.

Saw the Mobilio in flesh in Forum Mall, Koramangale in Bangalore. Very long and good looking vehicle. But very poor under-thigh support in last row. And very poor ICE in dashboard and poor instr cluster.

Also, last row seat cushioning is very poor. It's strictly for kids, that too for max 3-4 hour drives I feel.

Otherwise good.

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