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Old 4th June 2013, 13:01   #31
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I don't even know if they have a decent AT box for front wheel drive option. Even the A4 gets the lousy CVT.
They have a 6-speed tiptronic used on the pre-facelift quattro A4s and A6s.
I dont know if they still use it in any cars but that could be one of the options for the FWD Q3 or even the facelift A4. But they seem hellbent on using the CVT and ruining the car.
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They have a 6-speed tiptronic used on the pre-facelift quattro A4s and A6s.
I dont know if they still use it in any cars but that could be one of the options for the FWD Q3 or even the facelift A4. But they seem hellbent on using the CVT and ruining the car.
Yup but that's an old gearbox. What's interesting is that the Q3 is not sold with AT + Front wheel drive anywhere. I really doubt they will do something new just for India where they will be selling around a 100 cars monthly.
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Yup but that's an old gearbox. What's interesting is that the Q3 is not sold with AT + Front wheel drive anywhere. I really doubt they will do something new just for India where they will be selling around a 100 cars monthly.
Agree. If the whole idea is to bring down the cost of the car, assembling an entirely separate gearbox just for one variant (across the entire audi range) would not be a financially feasible decision.

Worst case scenario, Audi will use the underpowered 140bhp from the A4 with the same CVT. Remove LED headlamps and tail lamps, sunroof, electrical curtains, Remove the infotainment system alltogether, smaller alloy wheels
If you think about it, this alone could save them at least 4-5 lacs. I reckon cosmetic downgrades should be enough to pave way for a 25 lac Q3
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Yup but that's an old gearbox. What's interesting is that the Q3 is not sold with AT + Front wheel drive anywhere. I really doubt they will do something new just for India where they will be selling around a 100 cars monthly.
We simply aren't generating enough volumes for them to make specific changes for India.
Yes the tiptronic is an one of their older trannys but ANYTHING (read- pushing the car manually even!) is better than that horrid CVT & come to think of it, such a royally stripped down Q3 with a manual and suddenly the Laura LnK & the Superb seem ultra attractive and loaded they anyways are. Besides both have a gearbox which seemingly will never make it to the A4 FWDs.
They have just about become numero uno and id be shocked if they have already turned complacent. Idiots !
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Q3 has just 170mm of GC which is utter nonsense.
They should advertize Q3 as a car so thet it will be properly compared with the Laura et al. And then it will be easier to appreciate that this contraption is highly overpriced.
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Q3 has just 170mm of GC which is utter nonsense.
They should advertize Q3 as a car so thet it will be properly compared with the Laura et al. And then it will be easier to appreciate that this contraption is highly overpriced.
Once you look at the Q3 more closely, you'll realiZe that GC is an ignorable problem. The bigger problem is that it's extremely small ! Ideally you'd like to take an SUV to out station road trips. But looking at it and the size of the boot, there is no way it would fit 4 people and their luggage in one car. It's a high GC hatch at best.

If you closely you'll find most Audis are way overpriced for what they are compared to competition. One big reason being because they share the chassis and engines with cheaper VWs.

But in india price ( and discounts) matters most and there's no doubt Audi has the sharpest pricing in the market (they can afford it thanks to shared chassis and engines) , hence being market leader.

I haven't seen the A class in person but after reading reviews I'd be surprised if Q3 is more than a few mm longer and wider than the A class.
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Is this already available? I saw one yesterday (dont know if it's Q3 or Q5) having no DRL's, projectors. The headlights were very similar to the jetta's. It was a registered vehicle. Am I missing something here?
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Is this already available? I saw one yesterday (dont know if it's Q3 or Q5) having no DRL's, projectors. The headlights were very similar to the jetta's. It was a registered vehicle. Am I missing something here?

Was it an MH/14 ? If yes , its most likely Audi India's car or a press car given for a road-test or review.
About being on sale, there has been no marketing or endorsements from Audi's end that iv seen or know of so probably is not on sale yet but why not confirm with your local dealer ?
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Was it an MH/14 ? If yes , its most likely Audi India's car or a press car given for a road-test or review.
I think it had normal plates but definitely not the red or temp plates. I was looking at the headlights. Will try and click the pic next time.
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Default Michael Perschke hints at a 25 lakh rupee price tag for CKD Audi Q3

Audi India's Managing Director Mr Michael Perschke has put a price figure in front of the CKD assembled Audi Q3 crossover. 25 lakh rupees is the price at which the German luxury car maker plans to position the CKD assembled Q3 at. At that price point, the Audi Q3 crossover will be the least priced luxury car in Audi's Indian car range, undercutting the CBU imported version of the Q3. CKD assembly of the Audi Q3 is expected to begin in the second half of 2013, with the imported CKD kits being assembled at Audi's Aurangabad assembly facility in Maharashtra.

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Now, the 25 lakh rupee price figure that Mr Perschke has stated for the CKD assembled Q3 is quite an interesting one. From the looks of it, Audi could continue using the Quattro all wheel drive layout, the same 2 liter TDI turbo diesel engine in 170 Bhp-350 Nm state of tune and the 7 speed dual clutch automatic transmission. Although the Audi Q3's international entry level variant comes with a 2 liter TDI engine outputting 140 Bhp-320 Nm, a 6 speed manual gearbox and a front wheel drive layout, this variant might not be what will be sold in India as the entry level Q3 model.

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We say this as the CBU imported Audi Q3's base variant is currently priced at 27.21 lakhs, ex-showroom Delhi. The CKD assembled crossover, priced at 25 lakh rupees means that Audi will not have to de-content the Q3 to arrive at the lower price tag as the lower import duty on the CKD model will deliver the required cost savings for the luxury car brand. At 25 lakh rupees, Audi India plans to attract buyers of other luxury crossovers such as the Honda CR-V and the Mitsubishi Outlander into the Audi fold.

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However, the Audi Q3's price advantage of being the least priced car to wear the four ringed badge on the bonnet might not last for too long. In 2014, Audi India plans to launch the A3 sedan, a car that is expected to become the entry level luxury car in Audi's range. A 1.8 liter TSI engine delivering 160 Bhp-250 Nm and a 2 liter TDI turbo diesel engine with 140 Bhp-320 Nm could be the A3 sedan's engine options. The A3 sedan will be the first MQB based Audi car to be launched in India.

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I do agree with fx45 that onroad pricing of Q3 is close to 40 lakhs , which really puts it in the category of itself , though X1 is no match for the Q3 in terms of quality and space , still a cheaper FWD version would be a welcome and would definitely pull first time buyers to the Audi showrooms .
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Default Here are all the details of the cut price Audi Q3 Sport

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Audi India will launch a new, entry level variant of the Q3 crossover in the second half of this year. The new model is expected to be available at Audi India dealerships, as early as next month. While the cut price model was hinted by Audi India's Managing Director, Mr Michael Perschke, a few days ago, here are a slew of new details that have leaked onto the interweb. The following information is courtesy a tweet from AutocarIndia editor, Mr Hormazd Sorabjee.

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The cut-price Audi Q3 will be assembled in India through completely knocked down (CKD) kits, at the German luxury car brand's Aurangabad assembly facility, in Maharashtra. The cut price version of the Q3 crossover will be named the Q3 Sport. The cut price model will use the 2 liter-TDI turbo diesel engine, albeit in a lower state of tune. While the CBU-imported diesel engined models of the Q3 come with the 2 liter-TDI engine in 174 Bhp-380 Nm state of tune, the cut-price Q3 Sport model gets the detuned version of this engine, in 140 Bhp-320 Nm guise.

Also, the Q3 Sport will dump the Quattro all wheel drive system for a front wheel drive layout. Another change on the Q3 Sport is that the 7 speed dual clutch automatic transmission will be replaced by a 6 speed manual gearbox. These changes, along with CKD assembly is said to result in an on-road price drop to the tune of 3.56 lakh rupees. An ex-showroom Delhi price of 25 lakh rupees is where the Q3 Sport will be pegged at. At this price level, the Q3 Sport will be the least priced Audi car model to be sold in India. Well, that's until the A3 sedan arrives here next year.

The shift from Quattro to the front wheel drive layout means that the Q3 will weigh 140 kilograms lower, at 1,445 kilograms. The weight reduction is expected to give the Q3 Sport adequate performance, despite the lower powered diesel engine. On the features front, Audi has nixed the following features from the Q3 Sport model,
  • Powered front passenger seat
  • Seat memory
  • Day time running lights
  • Xenon headlamps
  • Satellite navigation
  • Sun roof
  • Reverse camera

The Audi Q3 Sport retains all other features available on the base-grade variant of the Q3 Quattro model such as leather seats, cruise control, reverse parking sensors, Audi MMI infotainment system, automatic climate control, and automatic wipers and headlamps. With the Q3 Sport variant, Audi is targeting the likes of the Mercedes Benz A-Class, B-Class and the upcoming BMW 1-Series hatchbacks. Audi wants to allure entry-level luxury car buyers with the option of choosing a luxury crossover at a price that is slightly higher than that of the aforementioned hatchbacks.

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Audi India will launch a new, entry level variant of the Q3 crossover in the second half of this year. The new model is expected to be available at Audi India dealerships, as early as next month.
The whole story is on the new Autocar India Issue.
Downloading it now, will post any new info. here
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The good thing i make out of this is the return of the manual tranny in the premium segment, hoping it would make BMW and Merc to think about introducing them since the C class m/t was the last one sold.

But to think about it, Audi has VW/Skoda to make the 6 m/t viable unlike Merc and BMW who doesn't have such cheaper stablemates sharing engine/drivetrain,
so maybe wishful thinking.
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God Bless competition. At this price, the Q3 suddenly starts to look appealing.....
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