Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 26th October 2013, 13:04   #166
BHPian
 
chakri400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 179
Thanked: 99 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StarScream View Post

They will show the production version of the Urban SUV but there is no mention of the new City. Although the Global Compact Series platform mentioned is what the City will also be based on.
When is the urban SUV excepted? I would be definitely interested and will wait for it as I plan to upgrade in H1 next year
chakri400 is offline  
Old 26th October 2013, 19:00   #167
Senior - BHPian
 
StarScream's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Noida/Delhi
Posts: 1,247
Thanked: 633 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by chakri400 View Post
When is the urban SUV excepted? I would be definitely interested and will wait for it as I plan to upgrade in H1 next year
What I have read is that it gets to Japan and the US next year and then to India in 2015.
StarScream is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 26th October 2013, 23:06   #168
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sgiitk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kanpur
Posts: 7,162
Thanked: 3,757 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

One point to see - will the Diesel be the 1500 or its parent the 1600. I expect a VGT in either case. I will bet on the 1500!!
sgiitk is online now  
Old 27th October 2013, 10:00   #169
Team-BHP Support
 
Vid6639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 14,471
Thanked: 19,382 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgiitk View Post
One point to see - will the Diesel be the 1500 or its parent the 1600. I expect a VGT in either case. I will bet on the 1500!!
It's going to be the 1.5L. If you remember from my Amaze preview drive in Japan, I had mentioned that the 1.5L engine is developed for India whereas the 1.6L is euro spec.

So expect to see the 1.5L in a slightly higher state of tune.
Vid6639 is offline   (2) Thanks
Old 27th October 2013, 10:31   #170
Team-BHP Support
 
ampere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 15,605
Thanked: 8,597 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

I hope they at least showcase the concept that would be getting to the India market. That would give an idea of things to come in India. I also hope they give a better noise insulation for these new products.
ampere is offline  
Old 27th October 2013, 19:36   #171
Newbie
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: BANGALORE
Posts: 17
Thanked: 2 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by autotranny View Post
I got a call from Pride Honda, Hyderabad yesterday confirming that they will start booking in early November. Expected delivery to commence in Jan'14. The petrol and diesel engine options have been decided and it is expected that only the petrol will have the Auto transmission option.

Will give more updates once I hear more from them.
Over here in bangalore, they have started taking bookings for new Honda city but in the name of older honda city(v version).Pay 50K and book the new one @ Dakshin Honda.

Quote:
Originally Posted by chakri400 View Post
When is the urban SUV excepted? I would be definitely interested and will wait for it as I plan to upgrade in H1 next year
Just to add - Yes, the sequence of launch is honda city followed by honda fit / jazz followed by suv
yes-anonymous is offline  
Old 28th October 2013, 00:50   #172
BHPian
 
autotranny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Hyd, Thrissur
Posts: 281
Thanked: 201 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by yes-anonymous View Post
Over here in bangalore, they have started taking bookings for new Honda city but in the name of older honda city(v version).Pay 50K and book the new one @ Dakshin Honda.
But how many would actually do that since we have no idea how it would look like. What if Honda decides to get rid of all its principles and decides to make the new City look like a utilitarian vehicle ala the Renault Logan. Would people still go through with their booking ?
autotranny is offline  
Old 28th October 2013, 06:30   #173
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sydney, AU
Posts: 844
Thanked: 587 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by yes-anonymous View Post
Over here in bangalore, they have started taking bookings for new Honda city but in the name of older honda city(v version).
Now that's crazy. How can people sign a cheque for booking a vehicle which is yet to be shown to public?
MaxTorque is offline  
Old 28th October 2013, 09:25   #174
Distinguished - BHPian
 
swiftnfurious's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Chennai
Posts: 6,449
Thanked: 6,438 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Personally, I don't mind seeing the Crider here. To me, it doesn't look that garish as being made out - may be a matter of personal preference. To me the car looks a bit butch. Ohh yeah, the current city is any day HAWTER!

Quote:
Originally Posted by autotranny View Post
But how many would actually do that since we have no idea how it would look like. What if Honda decides to get rid of all its principles and decides to make the new City look like a utilitarian vehicle ala the Renault Logan. Would people still go through with their booking ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxTorque View Post
Now that's crazy. How can people sign a cheque for booking a vehicle which is yet to be shown to public?
I am surprised that you guys are surprised! We have had multiple launches so far where people did NOT know the spec / price / looks and still went ahead and made bookings - the latest being Terrano, 6K bookings without knowing the price! This is definitely NOT the first time.

One of the primary reasons I feel dejected and also feel that the automakers treat us (Indian market) silly ! And some of us keep ranting why do we get such shoddy treatment!

Last edited by swiftnfurious : 28th October 2013 at 09:28.
swiftnfurious is offline  
Old 28th October 2013, 10:04   #175
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sydney, AU
Posts: 844
Thanked: 587 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftnfurious View Post
I am surprised that you guys are surprised! We have had multiple launches so far where people did NOT know the spec / price / looks and still went ahead and made bookings - the latest being Terrano
Agree with you. I am aware of those pre-booking sagas. Nissan Terrano was previewed to customers and similar thing was happened in the case of Ford EcoSport as well. But here it is totally different in new Honda City's case - No one knows which is the product. Still company expects people to come forward and pay amount for pre-booking.
MaxTorque is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 28th October 2013, 10:28   #176
BHPian
 
methecupid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: W(o/a)ndering
Posts: 323
Thanked: 645 Times
Default

It could be a case where the dealers and not necessarily the company is mooching off gullible customers. Like said, the booking amount of 50k (whopping) is being taken and a booking of the current city is being done.

What it tells me (& I very well maybe wrong) is that the dealers will have a bank full of cash, of which interest and other multipliers will be earned, up until the company launches the car. At which point, the dealer will simply place the orders in the sequence they received the money. Here's a case, where I don't think Honda is particularly at fault.

But agree to the maddening psyche of the Indian customer, herd mentality - if a car is being bought by my peers, it ought to be good. The guy who booked the last of the Terranos must have thought 5999 ahead of him can't be wrong. I was at Ford to see the Ecosport and after all the talks I asked him if I could drive it; the sales advisor was bemused and replied " you need a test drive?"; replied very humbly to him "you sure your product is worth 11 lakhs?"

Too bad, I don't see this herd mentality changing - in India, there are enough people out there to plonk their money and bet against a tide.
methecupid is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 28th October 2013, 11:49   #177
BHPian
 
sawnilrules's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 345
Thanked: 785 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgiitk View Post
One point to see - will the Diesel be the 1500 or its parent the 1600. I expect a VGT in either case. I will bet on the 1500!!
They were planning to bring in 1600 cc, both for petrol as well as Diesel as they want to add that 100 cc extra for the Automatic Climatronic AC.

Meanwhile an update, these are the list of features the car may have extra over the outgoing model in its top-end avatar-
  • Bi-Xenon
  • MID
  • Auto Folding ORVM's
  • Climate Control AC with rear vents
  • CD, USB Player with Bluetooth Integration as well as Micro SD Card reader
  • Digital Console for Speedometer

The reason I say may have is, The current top-end model which is at the plant is with these features, however, knowing Honda India, they may invariably want to strip down on certain features in the car. And the most likely one to be stripped out citing cost issues would be Bi-Xenon.

Also, I don't think, Honda would launch Crider in India with City badging, my reasons being
  1. Crider is not Based on the Jazz Platform, City always was going to be based on the Jazz Platform
  2. Internationally, Crider seats between the Civic and the Accord, so if they launch the car in India at a cheaper cost, they would be in bargain end up damaging the brand "Crider" which is yet to establish itself.


However, if they do, I am glad that I have the current generation City, as this one with its aeroshot design looks way hotter than the Crider. It simply doesn't matter then what all features will the New City come in with.
sawnilrules is offline   (5) Thanks
Old 28th October 2013, 12:08   #178
Distinguished - BHPian
 
sgiitk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Kanpur
Posts: 7,162
Thanked: 3,757 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by sawnilrules View Post
They were planning to bring in 1600 cc, both for petrol as well as Diesel as they want to add that 100 cc extra for the Automatic Climatronic AC.
Why I said 1500 is that it is already under production, adding a VGT should up the power to about 125-130 bhp. Also, the same may be used in the Jazz Mk.II

Last edited by sgiitk : 28th October 2013 at 12:09.
sgiitk is online now   (1) Thanks
Old 28th October 2013, 12:57   #179
Senior - BHPian
 
StarScream's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Noida/Delhi
Posts: 1,247
Thanked: 633 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by sawnilrules View Post
They were planning to bring in 1600 cc, both for petrol as well as Diesel as they want to add that 100 cc extra for the Automatic Climatronic AC.

Meanwhile an update, these are the list of features the car may have extra over the outgoing model in its top-end avatar-
  • Bi-Xenon
  • MID
  • Auto Folding ORVM's
  • Climate Control AC with rear vents
  • CD, USB Player with Bluetooth Integration as well as Micro SD Card reader
  • Digital Console for Speedometer

The reason I say may have is, The current top-end model which is at the plant is with these features, however, knowing Honda India, they may invariably want to strip down on certain features in the car. And the most likely one to be stripped out citing cost issues would be Bi-Xenon.

Also, I don't think, Honda would launch Crider in India with City badging
Honda doesn't have a 1.6l gasoline engine planned in the Earth Dreams series AFAIK. The next highest after 1.5l is the 1.8l in petrol engines.

I hope they don't strip xenons from the top variant. For me at least, it is a selling point.

I agree with you about the Crider. It is based on the Civic platform and is not the next City.
StarScream is offline   (1) Thanks
Old 28th October 2013, 13:56   #180
BHPian
 
huntrz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 66
Thanked: 18 Times
Default re: Confirmed: 2014 Honda City to be unveiled in November 2013

Quote:
Originally Posted by autotranny View Post
But how many would actually do that since we have no idea how it would look like.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxTorque View Post
Now that's crazy. How can people sign a cheque for booking a vehicle which is yet to be shown to public?
Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftnfurious View Post
I am surprised that you guys are surprised! We have had multiple launches so far where people did NOT know the spec / price / looks and still went ahead and made bookings - the latest being Terrano, 6K bookings without knowing the price! This is definitely NOT the first time.
I registered on honda site for inquiring about City. A dealer called me the next day and immediately tried to sell Amaze!! I said I am interested in City. He immediately said that I can book it right away and delivery will be in Jan. He didn't mention about the new city being launched till now. I asked him when is the launch and when is the pricing declared. The both will be in December and bookings will open from November. No old city in stock.
These people really expect customers to buy a car without seeing it, without TD, without knowing the specs and without knowing the price. I am shocked at the audacity of these guys. Who said we Indians don't aim high
huntrz is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pics & Report: 2014 Honda City unveiled in India parrys The Indian Car Scene 366 17th December 2013 00:02
Honda to reveal the facelifted 2014 Civic Si in November 2013 sarathlal The International Automotive Scene 1 7th November 2013 08:19
Honda CBR500R - First Pics Leaked. EDIT - Six New Models Confirmed for 2013. Scorcher Superbikes & Imports 49 11th March 2013 00:52
10 World's Fastest Cars--polled in November 2006 and due this november VJ_MAVRICK The International Automotive Scene 0 27th August 2007 11:47
Confirmed : Skoda's New A5 launch in this November ST7677 The Indian Car Scene 78 25th November 2005 16:05


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 09:34.

Copyright 2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks