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Old 28th October 2014, 14:06   #301
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  • LXi, LDi variants now come with rear adjustable headrests and a 60:40 split for the rear seat.
  • The newly added Swift LXi+, LDi+ trims get front power windows and keyless entry.
  • The VXi, VDi get an audio player, electrically-foldable wing mirrors and ABS (VDi only).
  • The top-end ZXi, ZDi trims get new additions like keyless entry and go along with push button start, Bluetooth for the audio player and rear parking sensors.
Difference between old and new VXi is 16k, while that of VDi is 20K. But VDi has ABS too. That means ABS costs 4K only?
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* Petrol 1.2 is now 9.7% more fuel efficient (20.4 kpl instead of 18.6 kpl - ARAI figures) but less power (83.1bhp instead of 85.8bhp)

* Diesel 1.3 is now 10% more fuel efficient (25.2 kpl instead of 22.9 kpl - ARAI figures) that too with same power (74bhp).

If ECU tweaking can do so much improvement, why Maruti can't give ECU tweaking option to old Swift users (2011-14 and even earlier Swift user)? It is same engine after all.
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  • The VXi, VDi get an audio player, electrically-foldable wing mirrors and ABS (VDi only).
I cannot understand why has the price of the Vxi gone up by 16,000 though it gets only the audio player and electrically foldable wing mirrors? There is no ABS. I guess you mean a two DIN audio player?
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Curious decision to omit ABS in the VXi trim. What have petrol car customers done wrong to not deserve safety equipment? Also, the price hike without ABS is nearly identical to the one for VDi (which gets ABS in addition to the bling bits). What gives?
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* Petrol 1.2 is now 9.7% more fuel efficient (20.4 kpl instead of 18.6 kpl - ARAI figures) but less power (83.1bhp instead of 85.8bhp)
I am not wondered much about the new FE figures, as nowadays I am regularly getting what the company claims (though with 25% city and 75% highway driving) - around 18.5KMPL in my 2012 VXi.

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Curious decision to omit ABS in the VXi trim. What have petrol car customers done wrong to not deserve safety equipment? Also, the price hike without ABS is nearly identical to the one for VDi (which gets ABS in addition to the bling bits). What gives?
My guess now: to cash-in on the newly rising demand for Petrol models, and give some soaps to the Diesel buyers.

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I am not wondered much about the new FE figures, as nowadays I am regularly getting what the company claims (though with 25% city and 75% highway driving) - around 18.5KMPL in my 2012 VXi.
My point is not about just fuel efficiency. If various combinations of fuel efficiency and power output are available through difference ECU updates, why not give users option to choose what they want.
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My point is not about just fuel efficiency. If various combinations of fuel efficiency and power output are available through difference ECU updates, why not give users option to choose what they want.
If that is the case, then it has just one answer, IMO: business! If the company provides backward-compatibility for their new technologies, their newer models won't move outside the showroom!
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While 24k's sounds reasonable for the additions in the ZDi model, I wish they had priced it at the same level especially the diesel to make it even more attractive since the Swift itself has a couple of inherent weaknesses - tiny boot, less than perfect rear seats and tinny build.
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This is a very minor update of the most popular car. I am waiting for a Swift with a slightly longer wheelbase and slightly bigger boot. I am only saying 'slightly'. Longer wheelbase will affect the dynamics, but it will be really good to have. The extremely cramped rear seat and joke of a boot, are the only two flaws in the current Swift IMO.

I dont think this update/refresh will affect the sales in anyway, neither up or down. Swift will continue to rock the base !
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This is a very minor update of the most popular car. I am waiting for a Swift with a slightly longer wheelbase and slightly bigger boot.
Could be then the YRA premium hatchback will meet or exceed your requirement - late 2015.
New Swift is speculated to launch in late 2016.
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The following matter is mentioned at the above link-
The advanced thermal management system in diesel engine along with low friction engine oil and modified fuel injection system helps the diesel engine to warm up faster and reduce frictional losses.
The New Swift comes factory filled with low friction engine oil. But what about the Oil Change at MASS during Servicing? Would the MASS use such Low Friction Oil in New Swift?
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Heard the Swift is now officially available at the dealerships. Anyone having any specific information? Also, the changes made in the updated version are not upto the mark. I mean come on, you are selling Start Stop, LED DRLs and other similar features, when a company like Hyundai has already created a niche for itslef offering these functions long ago.
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, Guess it is a new way of interpreting a 5W40 or 5W30 grade oil, already a jump in excitation factor. Maruti does it best compared to others.
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Small correction for the Mods to notice in the News:

The old petrol is 87 ps @6000 rpm, and not 86 ps @6200 rpm. Similarly the old diesel is 75 ps and not 74. Just double checked the brochure on the website, which is incidentally represents the old Swift, and not the current one.

Still don't understand why the VXi prices are up by so much, without the ABS. Is it that with petrol cars taking a larger market share, and for Maruti that means VXi, MSIL wants to cash in a bit more?

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This minor facelift (with the much needed addition of useful features) should help to keep the Swift up to date in the segment against its new (i20) and facelifted (Polo & Punto) rivals.

Electrically retractable mirrors, true keyless entry with engine start-stop button, Bluetooth enabled music system and reverse sensors are all very welcome! 60:40 split folding rear seats should partly compensate for that small boot by at least providing some flexibility (i.e. when travelling with less than 5 passengers). It's strange that the website has not been updated even now.

If only Maruti Suzuki had the same attitude towards safety as they have towards squeezing out more FE numbers from ARAI! It's unfair that the middle petrol variant misses out on ABS when compared to the diesel. And why can't they offer a driver airbag on the middle variants? Ten thousand or fifteen thousand odd rupees more is well worth paying for the safety offered by a driver airbag.

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Small correction for the Mods to notice in the News:

The old petrol is 87 ps @6000 rpm, and not 86 ps @6200 rpm. Similarly the old diesel is 75 ps and not 74.
As those power outputs were provided in terms of bhp (instead of PS) on the homepage of Team-BHP , both the figures happen to be correct. 1 PS equates to 0.98632 bhp when converted.

The pre-facelift model did make its peak power output at a slightly higher rpm as well.

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Still don't understand why the VXi prices are up by so much, without the ABS. Is it that with petrol cars taking a larger market share, and for Maruti that means VXi, MSIL wants to cash in a bit more?
It's indeed irresponsible of Maruti Suzuki to discriminate against the middle variant's petrol buyers in this manner. Driver's airbag and ABS should have been made standard on the V_i variants, in my opinion.

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