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Old 11th August 2014, 06:40   #526
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Guys, look what I found on Zauba:


Two Ciaz exported to USA, MT and AT. Not sure why it went there.

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Wow! Thanks for the info. Some (obvious) inferences

1. Looking at the engine number (starting with K14B), it is safe to conclude that the petrol will be the 1.4L K Series from the Ertiga. This dashes my last hope that Maruti will plonk in a more powerful engine (M16A).

2. Price difference between MT and AT is 65k which sounds reasonable to me. Can experts comment if the AT will be sluggish with a 1.4L engine?

3. Looking at the petrol motor, it is safe to assume that Maruti will just go with the 1.3L MJD in 90 BHP tune

Even if Maruti prices aggressively, will this segment buyers be ready to overlook the relatively smaller displacement engines and and the tremendous value that the City badge carries?

Looking at choosing between the Ciaz and Honda City myself for my next car, the engines are a big disappointment

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If we look at the history of SX4, it was priced way below the then existent Honda city and Verna. The top end version was close to a lakh lesser than the mid end Honda city, with equipment levels which was nowhere matched by the top of the line city.

Also, the honda city had a better quality overall. But the sweet pricing and package made the SX4 sell quite a lot in the years 2007-2011. It was later that sales dropped due to multiple reasons.

Now, Honda isn't excelling in quality IMO with the new city compared to the outgoing city. Though equipment levels increased, quality didn't. Guess the Ciaz can at least match this quality if not better. Hence, with a good price package, it can sell some numbers if not a blockbuster since the Ertiga swallows a lot of customers from the SX4 just because of the two extra seats feeling.
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I found this comparison today from another website.The specs show that the Ciaz has a bigger petrol engine , however I doubt the same. Strictly IMO going by the face and the dimensions I loved the Ciaz more. Iam not an expert on suspension at the same time we are not sure if they would be offering the same suspension as mentioned here , however I would request experts to pitch in which is a better suspension. If the interiors look and feel the same as in the spy pictures , then this car is sure to make a big statement to its competition both Verna & City.
I agree that the engine specs may not interest all.Egarly waiting for the launch and the review. I can definitely say that Honda by stalling the City production has opened a new window for people to think and look towards this new option.

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Maruti's Ciaz is in production line, speculated 600+ cars manufactured , Bookings to open shortly.
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Maruti's Ciaz is in production line, speculated 600+ cars manufactured
The lighter shade gets the cars size in reality whereas the darker one doesn't show the size of the car (length mostly).

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Looks are clean and neutral while losing out on the 'Men are back' theme from the SX4. Reminds me of the Vento and Cruze from certain angles.



Has the A-Star not been discontinued abroad? Based on the above pic.
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Maruti's Ciaz is in production line, speculated 600+ cars manufactured , Bookings to open shortly.
Seems like a well-balanced, proportionate, low-slung sedan (Civic style is back on road!), but spoiled the frontal looks with the overdose of chrome. Let's wait and see how it will look on road.

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More pics surface, rear of the car in view,

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Ciaz will have Projector Headlamp as Standard , could be no Ldi Verson available

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Whaattt!?! After that beautiful concept car,the final product is this? I guess Maruti has perfected the art if doing that.Had high hopes from the Ciaz.Now it looks like a Kizashi that has grown old and wilted.
Agree with you. Today I first time saw the scoop pictures posted in this thread and got disappointed after seeing whats coming as a final product. The actual car is completely different and feeling downmarket compared to what was shown at the Expo

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More pics surface, rear of the car in view
The rear portion, especially the tail lights are resembling with the current Honda City.

Side profile somehow giving feel of Chevy Sail sedan.
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Maruti's Ciaz is speculated to have have 7 Colors i.e white,silver,black,beige,firebrick red,glistning grey & bakers chocolate.

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Speculated details of Maruti Ciaz Vxi / Ciaz Vdi as follows :
  • Projector Headlamps
  • Rear Ac Vents
  • Driver Arm Rest
  • Electrical adjustable orvm
  • Foot rest
  • Front & Rear power window
  • Remote Central locking
  • Rear Diffoger
  • Music System
  • Speed sensing door auto lock
  • Tilt adjustable steering wheel
  • Beige color interiors
  • Dual tone dash board with wooden finish strip
Details of Ciaz Vxi+ / Ciaz Vdi+ as follows :
  • Steering mounted audio controls
  • Reverse parking Sensors
  • A.B.S
  • Height adjustable driver seat
  • Front Fog light
Feature details of Ciaz Zxi / Ciaz Zdi as follows :
  • Alloy wheels - 16inch
  • Auto Climatic AC
  • Dual Airbags
  • Push start button
  • 5inch TFT Dispaly for music system with optical parking assist.
  • Auto dimming rear view mirror
  • Premium fabric seats
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Is that the bakers chocolate in the background of the first pic? Glistening grey is looking really nice on this car!

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Faint view of the interiors, but seem dual tone but primarily black( Vento like)

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Variants - Ciaz will launch in 6 Variant ( 3 petrol & 3 Diesel ) followed by CVT transmission. Petrol Variants - VXi , VXi+ & ZXi -Diesel Variants - VDi , VDi+ & Zd

Engine -Maruti Suzuki Ciaz petrol will share engine from Ertiga's i.e 1.4 litre 1373cc K series (K14B) engine that produces a maximum power 94 BHP and Maruti Suzuki Ciaz Diesel is powered by same 1248cc that produce 90ps with 200 NM torque Engine that Maruti Suzuki is currently in SX4 & Ertiga Diesel.

Ciaz Diesel is expected to deliver Mileage above 22.4kmpl & Ciaz petrol mileage will be around 18.2 Kmpl
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Wish the grille wasn't chrome, but that can be fixed. Lovely bumper though.

Was expecting the 1.6L Diesel. Eager to see how the 1.3 MJD VGT will perform.
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So Maruti is playing safe here by putting standard, tried and tested readily available engines for Ciaz. Not a bad move IMHO. It will make sure that maruti will launch it at very competitive price compared to City & Verna. If they price it lesser than city by say 50-70 K ex showroom, it will be great option for buyers. For a normal buyer Ciaz will be a good option as its basically a Maruti. Average person will not care how much horse power it has. For him, its a Maruti & that's all. DDiS is a well proven engine and score on many points over other competition in many departments. Its very fuel efficient as well. Also service is available for it on every corner, so that's a big plus IMO. 1.4 K series petrol engine is also not bad & will do better here than Ertiga for sure due to cars dynamics & lesser weight (hopefully).

Maruti has one more winner in hand, lets see how they price it. Eagerly waiting for launch. I heard it is on 23 August, is it true??
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