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Old 8th August 2014, 15:37   #151
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Great to see that Audi has kept an uniform (and uniformly high) level of safety across all variants. Though the cynic in me says that its for engineering and supply chain efficiency than for "safety of customers", its nevertheless to be lauded.
The base trim is not really luxury model, entry level of otherwise. But Indian customers are well known for their preference of bling over substance, so this is a fairly safe bet and should play out well for Audi India. It would be interesting to see the long term trend of numbers though.

What it WILL do, though, is to seriously disturb the pre-owned market for luxury cars, especially the A4, 3 and C. Many potential customers will either drive down prices, or simply go for A3. Hmmmmmm....that' an idea :-)

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Audi A3 was launched today at Rs. 22.95 lakh (ex-showroom Delhi). Attractive pricing I must say..

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The Audi A3 sedan has been launched with a choice of five variants to choose from. The diesel A3 is available in four variants, namely, Attraction at Rs. 22.95 lakh, Premium at Rs. 25.95 lakh, Premium + at Rs. 29.95 lakh and the top-end Technology Pack at Rs. 32.66 lakh. All prices are indicative of ex-showroom Delhi.

The petrol fueled Audi A3 sedan is available only in a single Premium + variant that is priced at Rs. 28.95 lakh (ex-showroom Delhi).

The petrol Audi A3 sedan is powered by a 1.8 litre, 4-cylinder, turbocharged engine generating 182.5PS of power @ 5,100 rpm and 6,200 rpm and 250Nm of torque between 1,250 rpm and 5,000 rpm. The engine is mated to a seven-speed double clutch automatic gearbox.

The 2.0 litre turbo diesel engine in the A3 develops 144PS of power between 3,500 rpm and 4,000 rpm along with peak torque of 320Nm between 1,750 rpm and 3,000 rpm. The diesel engine is mated to a six-speed double clutch gearbox.

The Audi A3 diesel has an ARAI rated fuel efficiency figure of 20.38 km/l while the A3 petrol has an ARAI specified fuel economy of 16.6 km/l.
Source: http://indianexpress.com/article/aut...rs-22-95-lakh/

Edit: Just realized it was launched yesterday

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Well talking about safety features is senseless as far as worthiness of the structure and crumple zones is not known how it will fare during crash.

Here is 'small overlap crash test' crash test where A3 fared well. One thing to be noted that A4 failed in the 'small overlap crash test' conducted by IIHS and Audi promised to look into this regard. So its good to see the lower segment A3 passed it.

Small Overlap Crash tests are tougher to pass compared to normal crash tests we have been seeing because a smaller area of the car is crashed to see sustainability of the car against impact unlike the regular crash test where bigger portion of the car is crashed.

Though the A3 scored good rating but personally I am not fully satisfied after seeing some damage on the A pillar, also some impact transferring into the cabin also. Have seen few other cars performing better in this regard.

Here is small overlap crash test, yet to find other crash tests of this 2015 version:





Some road tests include moose test, impressive:



Seeing all this, I will say top end of the A3 is better buy compared to the lower end variants of the A4 from safety point of view, until the new generation A4 is launched after taking care of the structural issue mentioned above. Afterall all variants of the A3 come with all the safety features in a more safer structure.

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The base trim is not really luxury model, entry level of otherwise. But Indian customers are well known for their preference of bling over substance, so this is a fairly safe bet and should play out well for Audi India.
I think the base model has more substance (safety equipment) than bling (creature comforts). Those who are evaluating lower variants of Passat/Superb may find the A3 to be an interesting option, especially if the rear seat space is not a big consideration.
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Audi with its trim levels is closer, but not as close as A3 and A4
Well the current A4 is quite old (from 2008, with periodic facelifts). Once the new one gets in (2015?), it should go in a higher price bracket.
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How much is this "optional" panoramic sunroof for in the A3?
They ought to have given it at least in the pricey top end model
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As far as I know, sunroof's are Rs 1 lakh extra on all models except the base where its not available and Rs 1.5 lakh extra on the top model.
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Given that the A3 and the Octavia are on the same platform and run the same engines in mildly differing states of tune and the Octavia is 2 seconds faster to 100 kmph, 4 seconds faster to 140 kmph, approx 15 lakhs cheaper OTR even though it is a full segment higher, it appears to be a no brainer to answer the question - which car? Except for the 4 rings and a few bells and whistles.
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How much is this "optional" panoramic sunroof for in the A3?
They ought to have given it at least in the pricey top end model
Even though they have listed it as optional, the Audi Price Calculator page on their website list it as standard, with an add-on of around 1 lakh for all variants (Premium, Premium+, and Technology). Probably a marketing gimmick to keep it as an optional extra and show the list price down by a lakh.

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Also, the price calculator does not list the base "Attraction" variant at all. I wonder if this is a ploy similar to what Ford did with the Ecosport - Announce killer pricing on base variants to get footfalls in showrooms and create buzz, then severely limit supply of these variants so that customers are forced to go for higher variants or wait endlessly and maybe eventually cancel the their bookings in frustration. Either way, it allows the manufacturer to limit the loss on the base variant. I am not sure this would not be seen as a restrictive practice in countries with better consumer protection laws.
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the Octavia is 2 seconds faster to 100 kmph, 4 seconds faster to 140 kmph
The claimed 0-100 for the A3 diesel is 8.x seconds, the Octavia diesel cannot be 2 seconds faster that that. Also A3 would be much more dynamically accomplished. I don't remember the numbers for TFSI, but that was somewhere in 7.x.

On the pricing side you should compare A3 base with Octy Ambition TDI AT (17.93 ex, delhi) - difference is only 5 lacs. The TSI AT is almost 10 lacs cheaper at 18.63 lacs, but A3 TSI is better specc'ed. Anyway, i dont think neither company aims to sell too many petrols. Both have given it a step-motherly treatment with only one version.

Octy has very nice backseats though. I loved the Octavia, yet to check out the backseat of A3.
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Mod Note: Team-BHP's Audi A3 Review has been taken live at this link (Audi A3 : Official Review). Please continue the discussion over on the review thread.


Well here are my 2 cents:
- if you don't consider additional space, A3 is better buy than A4. Reason: detuned engine same as A4, add a racechip and you have better drive than A4 due to Stronic gearbox instead of multitronic (A4). So far Audi has only offered Stronic with Quattro so this is unique to A3. They are actually giving you superior gearbox in A3 than rubber band A4 multitronic!
- It has better crash rating than A4. No compromise on safety features as compared.
- current pricing is marketing gimmick, only Audi brand aspirants will go for limited number of attraction variant. Once you reach showroom you will be told that only cars avaialble are with sunroof/panoramic roof, so advertised price would never be found and once you are in showroom your logic takes a back seat and brand aspiration takes over
- A3 will definitely eat up ageing A4 numbers at least at entry level.
- Audi India again failed to learn from Merc in genuinely offering premium features at entry level though it will dent sales of A and B due to hatch and boot comparison by Indian buyers.

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