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To be on the more practical side of things, the actual availability of the mustang would atleast take a year and a half or two.

Ford aspire launched way back in March but still it is to hit the market. Next comes the face lift versions of the Figo & the all new endeavour. Keep aside roughly 6 months towards each of these products and 18 months is the least time before you could end up seeing the mustang.

(I have already enquired and ford is still unable to give a date on when the information would be able let alone tell the specifics)
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To be on the more practical side of things, the actual availability of the mustang would atleast take a year and a half or two.
Just a little inside information. It will be launched sooner than you think. They won't take a year for this.

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There's no way they would launch a V8 vehicle around 50L. It has to be the EcoBoost engine.
I have a genuine question - not just to sweetvar but to others too - since I have seen this line of reasoning being bandied about much too often in these forums.

Know that carmakers like to differentiate their offerings by charging a hefty premium for bigger and more powerful engines but I want to know whether there is a real cost involved from the car makers side or is there just gravy.

I am not even talking about the egregious behavior of the germans here. Like the VAG 2.0 TDI has outputs ranging from 120 to close to 200 with scarcely more than an engine remap or BMW where a 2.0 (both petrol and diesel) with varying outputs feeds 118d, 120d, 320d, 118i, 320i, 325i, 328i etc etc.

Even if we look at what it costs to manufacture the 5.0 V8 vs the 2.3n EcoBoost or the 3.0 V6, I doubt whether the cost to produce will be significantly different. Might be not more than a thousand dollars - which translates to about 1.5Lakhs in our worthless currency. Ford might do well to bring the Boss 5.0 at the most economical pricepoint (which 50L is not but still) in order to keep the essence of the pony car which is affordable performance intact. If you see the EPA numbers, there isn't a very large fuel economy penalty either for the large motor.
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In this angle, Mustang somehow appears very similar to the Z4.
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I have a genuine question - not just to sweetvar but to others too - since I have seen this line of reasoning being bandied about much too often in these forums.

Know that carmakers like to differentiate their offerings by charging a hefty premium for bigger and more powerful engines but I want to know whether there is a real cost involved from the car makers side or is there just gravy.
I would like to disagree. I believe that the 5.0 Mustang is not just a engine swap to the 2.3 Ecoboost. There is a lot more that goes into the car including better suspension bits, better engine mounts, more exotic materials etc. You can pretty much consider them two completely separate cars which is why the difference in price is also not just $1000 but more like $7000.

Also we have to keep in mind that Ford is bringing the Mustang as a Halo Sports car and not a VFM option that they plan to sell in numbers. So, it would make sense for them to bring the fully loaded 5.0 version and charge as much money as possible for it.

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World First Glove Box Knee Airbag - 2015 Ford Mustang.




Ford Mustang is the first vehicle equipped with a knee airbag that is integrated within the door of the glove box, instead of the instrument panel, so passengers get maximum room to stretch out. The technology consists of an innovative moulded plastic design which uses fewer components and saves weight for fuel efficiency enhancements.

Not sure will this make it to India this year.

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Fresh news guys, it's not coming this year. We will get 2016 car in Feb or so. Very reliable source info says that they are actually looking at keen pricing to under cut the Germans by a large margin, so it's not just a halo product for them, which means in all probabilities ecoboost may make it's way. Another great piece of info is that once they launch with one variant, it will be followed by at least 2 more later, one will be topless. My hunch is they just stick to ecoboost premium and it's topless version.

Now coming to the greatest good news is that they do not want to exceed 50L ex showroom price!

Going by the USA prices GT 5.0 premium can also make it here including our 110% import duty. But the info insists that its ecoboost, but not sure. Now if Ford wants to make silly money from this car they can give the ecoboost for the price of GT 5.0, or if they are honest then just give us 5.0 for its real price, or if they really are angeles and are serious to prove dedication and sincerity to our market, they might just give us a ecoboost for its real price which will be under 40L ex showroom.

Fingers crossed.
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Interesting read!
What Do Women Want? This Year, a Ford Mustang (Bloomberg article link)

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Its amazing that T-bhp being a forum for enthusiasts, most people complain of the pricing despite knowing very well of the limitations set forward by the government on engine displacements for imports. Mitsubishi wasn't stupid to offer the Evo for 56 lakhs either, but that is what our government wants us to pay for the luxury of importing vehicles.
You'd think if they could price it at 30 lakhs to boost initial sales, they wouldn't do it? The base model retails for about $25000 that is roughly 16 lakhs. Add to that the various costs included in shipping, handling, insurance, and then the local taxes that would essentially see the price going well double the US pricing. Then you cater in dealer margins, dealer training, and transportation, storage, (assembly if any) testing and it eventually costs upward of 40 lakhs for the company. The rest will be the profit margin.
On comparison for 50 odd lacs an Evo is a much much much better buy any day than a Mustang. Mustang has no 'sports' in the sports car credentials, calling it a light bodied dragster with a huge engine is a better description. It has not much handling prowess to speak about and the interiors have always been low rent and rattly. Ford may very well wish it were a halo car for them here, but believe me once the news about the high pricing (may be 50 lac plus), really plasticky and low quality interiors, rattles and niggles creep out, their halo car may very well be their nightmare, after all if a 50 plus lac ford is this bad, how great could the bread and butter ones be?

A half crore plus car cannot be a halo car to the rest of your products which are below 15-20 lac range, the market is not the same. A Modeo sized/priced product can be a perfect halo car, may be the new Endevour will fit the bracket nicely. The Mustang can be a halo car only if Ford decides to bring rest of their sporty fleet into India, which they don't have and neither does the Indian market need.
Mitsubishi did the same mistake, selling the superlative Evo along with the lumbering half brick Ambassdor and the old Pajero. We saw what happened there right?
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On comparison for 50 odd lacs an Evo is a much much much better buy any day than a Mustang. Mustang has no 'sports' in the sports car credentials, calling it a light bodied dragster with a huge engine is a better description. It has not much handling prowess to speak about and the interiors have always been low rent and rattly. Ford may very well wish it were a halo car for them here, but believe me once the news about the high pricing (may be 50 lac plus), really plasticky and low quality interiors, rattles and niggles creep out, their halo car may very well be their nightmare, after all if a 50 plus lac ford is this bad, how great could the bread and butter ones be?

A half crore plus car cannot be a halo car to the rest of your products which are below 15-20 lac range, the market is not the same. A Modeo sized/priced product can be a perfect halo car, may be the new Endevour will fit the bracket nicely. The Mustang can be a halo car only if Ford decides to bring rest of their sporty fleet into India, which they don't have and neither does the Indian market need.
Mitsubishi did the same mistake, selling the superlative Evo along with the lumbering half brick Ambassdor and the old Pajero. We saw what happened there right?
The Mustang is by no means a sports car. It is a muscle car - known for brutal power, loud engines, and straight line ability!

About it being a Halo product - IMO a halo product isn't necessarily meant to be a mass-market car. It is supposed to represent the companies capabilities and drive people to the showroom. In reality, most halo products appeal only to enthusiasts (Polo GTi, Evo X, etc.). In this case, the Mustang would be an ideal halo car for an American company (as muscle cars are typically offered only by these American manufacturers), with the added benefits of being globally recognized. IIRC, Mustangs were popular in India too - and that will only help its positioning as a halo product.

Also, with the successful EcoSport, and the new butch Endeavour - the halo car might rub off! In the case of the Evo, it was just considered an overpriced Lancer (similar to what most of the public will feel about the Polo GTi IMO), which coupled with Mitsubishi's poor image in our market - it didn't kick off!

But yes - I would love to see the diesel Mondeo, and Focus hitting our shores soon! In fact, the Mustang may just change consumer's perception of Ford (from mass market sub INR 10L vehicles to a more premium view) and would help them sell more units of the more expensive Mondeo and Focus if they launch it.
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  • Ford says 70% of UK buyers have chosen the 410bhp, 386lb ft 5.0-litre V8-equipped model, which costs from £32,995 and sprints from 0-62mph in 4.8sec
  • The final power output is actually 5bhp lower than that of the left-hand drive version. This is due to the location of the steering assembly on the right-hand side of the engine, necessitating a new exhaust manifold, which resulted in a small reduction in peak power, according to Ford
  • Torque, acceleration, top speed and fuel consumption figures are not affected.
  • The other 30% of UK customers have opted for the entry-level 2.3-litre Ecoboost petrol engine, which develops 313bhp and 320lb ft. This variant can hit 62mph from rest in 5.8sec
  • There is the option of either six-speed manual - which 55% of customers have chosen - or six-speed automatic transmissions. The automatic adds £1500 to the price.
  • The 5.0-litre V8 will be upgraded to 500bhp within 18 months of the car going on sale.
  • Ford of Britain boss Andy Barratt said: “We are now sold out beyond July next year"
  • The pricing means the new Mustang substantially undercuts perofmance rivals such as the Nissan 370Z, BMW 4 Series and Audi A5.
  • Ford has launched the new Mustang in both convertible and 'Fastback' bodystyles. The convertible body style is around £1500 more expensive than the equivalent Fastback, which 80% of customers have chosen.
  • Standard kit in the UK includes 19in alloy wheels, a performance brake package, xenon headlights, LED tail-lights and a rear diffuser. Inside it gets dual-zone climate control and Fords latest Sync2 infotainment system with nine speakers an 8.0in screen.
  • There are 10 colours to choose from, including yellow and orange hues that are bespoke to the Mustang, while the options list includes upgraded seats. 'Race Red' is the most popular colour among UK buyers so far, accounting for 23% of all orders.
  • Most significantly, the new Mustang now has independent rear suspension, a move that comes 30 years after most manufacturers jettisoned live rear axles. The change in set-up greatly improves ride quality, while the front suspension has also been redesigned to help make the car suitable for a global audience.
  • Even so, Ford has admitted it is looking at improving the low-speed ride comfort of its new Mustang ahead of its 2015 European launch.
  • An initial run of 500 Mustangs was offered for sale across 20 European countries during a special promotion at the 2014 UEFA European Championship final. During the match - held between Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid - the cars, including 130 right-hand-drive cars for United Kingdom, were offered for sale and sold out in less than 30 seconds. In total, more than 9900 buyers tried to buy the cars.



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On comparison for 50 odd lacs an Evo is a much much much better buy any day than a Mustang. Mustang has no 'sports' in the sports car credentials, calling it a light bodied dragster with a huge engine is a better description. It has not much handling prowess to speak about and the interiors have always been low rent and rattly. Ford may very well wish it were a halo car for them here, but believe me once the news about the high pricing (may be 50 lac plus), really plasticky and low quality interiors, rattles and niggles creep out, their halo car may very well be their nightmare, after all if a 50 plus lac ford is this bad, how great could the bread and butter ones be?

The Mustang can be a halo car only if Ford decides to bring rest of their sporty fleet into India, which they don't have and neither does the Indian market need.
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The Mustang is by no means a sports car. It is a muscle car - known for brutal power, loud engines, and straight line ability!

About it being a Halo product - IMO a halo product isn't necessarily meant to be a mass-market car. It is supposed to represent the companies capabilities and drive people to the showroom. In reality, most halo products appeal only to enthusiasts (Polo GTi, Evo X, etc.). In this case, the Mustang would be an ideal halo car for an American company (as muscle cars are typically offered only by these American manufacturers), with the added benefits of being globally recognized. IIRC, Mustangs were popular in India too - and that will only help its positioning as a halo product.

Also, with the successful EcoSport, and the new butch Endeavour - the halo car might rub off!

But yes - I would love to see the diesel Mondeo, and Focus hitting our shores soon! In fact, the Mustang may just change consumer's perception of Ford (from mass market sub INR 10L vehicles to a more premium view) and would help them sell more units of the more expensive Mondeo and Focus if they launch it.

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A sports car (sportscar) is a small, usually two seater, two door automobile designed for spirited performance and nimble handling
Wikipedia definition

Now the Mustang ticks all the boxes of the definition , so rightly it is a sports car. It was a plasticky, spartan interiored which had full of rattles and can only go in straight lines. But that s a thing of the past. Ford has come a long way from then , their ST cars have redefined the hot hatch space. And the new DNA has spread to other products too. The large number of Mustang sales in US and the selling out of Mustangs till next July in Europe is evidence of that. After all Mustang is one of the last pure V8's on the market!

Coming to Indian market their bread and butter products are not bad at all. Infact their EcoSport has been very well received! With the new Ford Endeavour on the way, a halo car couldn't have come at a better time. As rightly said halo cars are supposed to represent the companies capabilities and drive people to the showroom by promoting the brand.
Mustang does all that with its good looks and on top of that is right at home with the good ground clearance which is an essential Indian car characteristic. A 50+ lakh price tag wouldn't also effect the car as the Indian aspirations and mindsets are changing. The 50 lakh Lancer Evo came at a time when we said Jazz was expensive and now both Jazz/i20 are selling in huge numbers. The same goes with S-cross/Creta/EcoSport and Fortuner! The brand it came from was not as strong as Ford and Nissan too faced the same situation. The days of 50 lakhs being expensive for a CBU performance car has changed. A CLA sedan cost close to 40 lakhs on road and its AMG version close to 90 lakhs (a turbo 4 pot ) . I wouldn't think twice if I have to pay 90 lakhs for a Mustang, but it better be a V8!

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The Mustang is by no means a sports car. It is a muscle car - known for brutal power, loud engines, and straight line ability!
I would disagree with you on this. The 2015 Mustang handles really well thanks to the independent rear suspension. Go read the reviews online and most of them will tell you Ford has changed the game. Many of the journalists termed it as more of a new gen sportscar than a pure American muscle. In fact, the well-renowned Chris Harris test drove the new Mustang and he was blown away on how good the car behaves on the road.
I own the 2014 GT and though I agree it is not a brilliant handler, it is still one of the most fun to drive cars around. The power is equivalent to an M3 and around a track my car is just a second or so shy of an M3. I made the handling a lot better by adding lowering springs and an adjustable panhard bar. It makes a huge difference to stock suspension.

The game is really different in India with the pricing. If Ford can price the V8 version at the price of a base 3-series, it would be a win-win. That's how it is priced here in the US. But I am sure, Ford will not do that because they want to position the Mustang as a very premium sports car in India (close to the Audi TT/ BWM Z4), which is sad.
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On comparison for 50 odd lacs an Evo is a much much much better buy any day than a Mustang. Mustang has no 'sports' in the sports car credentials, calling it a light bodied dragster with a huge engine is a better description. It has not much handling prowess to speak about and the interiors have always been low rent and rattly. Ford may very well wish it were a halo car for them here, but believe me once the news about the high pricing (may be 50 lac plus), really plasticky and low quality interiors, rattles and niggles creep out, their halo car may very well be their nightmare, after all if a 50 plus lac ford is this bad, how great could the bread and butter ones be?

A half crore plus car cannot be a halo car to the rest of your products which are below 15-20 lac range, the market is not the same. A Modeo sized/priced product can be a perfect halo car, may be the new Endevour will fit the bracket nicely. The Mustang can be a halo car only if Ford decides to bring rest of their sporty fleet into India, which they don't have and neither does the Indian market need.
Mitsubishi did the same mistake, selling the superlative Evo along with the lumbering half brick Ambassdor and the old Pajero. We saw what happened there right?
Out of curiosity, have you driven the new 2015 Mustang?

I'm going to be honest and say that I have never been inside one, let alone drive it. So my views are purely based on what online reviews have to say.

From what I've read and watched, the new Mustang is better than its predecessors by leaps and bounds. With its new independent rear suspension setup, it's more of a sports car than an outright muscle car. Also, quality of materials used inside-out has taken a big step forward.

So where are you getting this 'not a sports car' or 'rattly low rent interior' from? Is it based on something you saw a few years ago? If so, you may want to update yourself. The new Mustang is something of a revelation.
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I got an update from AVK Ford, Chandivalli, Mumbai last week. Next launches are as below:

1) New Figo hatch
2) New Endeavour
3) The MUSTANG

However, it is expected to be March-2016 for the Mustang launch.
Also, surprisingly they told me its the V6 that would come first!!

I have my doubt though as my previous info was the EcoBoost and the V8 would be launched together and the V8 would be priced somewhere around 90L-1Cr
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