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Old 30th September 2007, 10:03   #1426
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I think some expectations management is in order. The highlight of this launch is that potent 2.2L engine. If they were to do a complete rejig of the interiors et. all, everyone would then start cribbing abt how expensive and unaffordable the Safari has become. Also, reading between the lines, the main reason Tata has bought out the 2.2L when it did, is to bed it down in Indian conditions for their next biggest release of the X2.

Its best therefore to buy the 2.2L Safari for its engine, which from the looks of it, should be worth it. And surely, all the rattles reported on the first test mules will not see their way into production vehicles.
Thanks MAG,

but I have not yet TD the 2.2 one, and I have booked 3.0. however, through my contacts I am able to the hold delivery (even invoicing) my 3.0. Looks like I may go for 3.0 but 2.2. TD may change, off course if the price is not too much (as till now I have not seen any published data in TATA websites) and even its around 30 to 40K as mentioned here, its slights out of my budget as I have got a offer on 3.0 and further plan to negotiate with them based on 2.2 launch, as what I am hearing from dealers is that they will not offer any cash discount nor any frills.

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Ask each and every safari owner here and you'll get the same answer, the rear door rattles, we can always learn from others experiences, no need to "reinvent the wheel".

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1. How much have you driven a current Safari to comment about 'those rattles and cabin noise'?
Only one person till today has, comments are quoted below. My opinion was based on doctorkats small (10 km) test ride, and I used the word "I guess" due to it. But will definitely TD myself, once its introduced to the markets.

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2. Have you test driven the new one?
I want to believe you but the feedbacks dont make me, can you share with the other owners, how these minor issues can be taken care of, since they are not design related, they'll be most happy to rectify these rattles with your help.

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I can say yes to (1) and my take on it is that the problem is highly exaggerated. This is not to say that the vehicle is rattle-free, but most of the issues have been minor, easily taken care of and not design related.
I agree with you completely and that was my point too.

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I havent done a test drive yet, but if a manufacturer provides rattly test drive vehicles for a new product they deserve to fail in the market.
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6.rear door rattles like hell.

8.wind shear noise.

10.in cabin rattles as bad.sorry.
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I do not have in cabin rattles.
My tailgate used to rattle. The lock needs to be adjusted once in a while.
My problems were all minor and taken care of easily and quickly.
Steer advices all DICOR owners of his experiences by PM.
I was looking for a quieter & quicker Safari and it looks like the 2.2 will comfortably satisfy me on these counts.
Anyway, I am satisfied that my Safari EX 4X4 3L DICOR is solid value for money.
Let me also add that TATA went out of its way to fix certain problems on my Safari EVEN AFTER THE WARRANT EXPIRED!!!!
This is way more than Skoda did for my brother who has an RS.
Not once did TATA talk about my accessories and heavy duty ICE or even hint at the warranty being voided(before) or having expired (After).

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For Dicor 2.2, fuel consumption per 100 km
urban/city - 8.4 - i.e. 11.9 kmpl
highway - 7.0 - i.e. 14.2 kmpl
mixed - 7.7 - i.e. 12.98 kmpl
For something that size, and now that zippy, these figures look very exciting! Throw in the 'discounts' that TML has mentioned, and the deal looks sweeet indeed. From the testimony of so many owners, Safaris seem to 'settle down' after a while for many miles of happy ownership - and with the added city driveability, I only wish I had the moolah to go in for this...
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Ask each and every safari owner here and you'll get the same answer, the rear door rattles, we can always learn from others experiences, no need to "reinvent the wheel".
I dont think you've answered my question. I am one of the group you have referred to and have experienced tailgate rattle once. I know what it took to fix it, too - about 10 minutes.

Kindly avoid making authoritative comments based on second hand experiences. There are a bunch of owners speaking here from their own experiences, let them do the talking about issues with the old Safari.
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I dont have to jump in the well to know I will drown and my opinion is based upon feedback from majority of owners posted here.(if you want I can compile a list of all those). I didnt made it out of the blue. It will change as improved feedback is posted.

I am awaiting for some more 2.2l TD and my own TD for clarity.

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Kindly avoid making authoritative comments based on second hand experiences. There are a bunch of owners speaking here from their own experiences, let them do the talking about issues with the old Safari.
But I have also good opinion about TATA A.S.S improving and they are trying to resolve most of the things like jyobeb mentioned.

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I do not have in cabin rattles.
My tailgate used to rattle. The lock needs to be adjusted once in a while.
My problems were all minor and taken care of easily and quickly.
Steer advices all DICOR owners of his experiences by PM.
I was looking for a quieter & quicker Safari and it looks like the 2.2 will comfortably satisfy me on these counts.
Anyway, I am satisfied that my Safari EX 4X4 3L DICOR is solid value for money.
Let me also add that TATA went out of its way to fix certain problems on my Safari EVEN AFTER THE WARRANT EXPIRED!!!!
This is way more than Skoda did for my brother who has an RS.
Not once did TATA talk about my accessories and heavy duty ICE or even hint at the warranty being voided(before) or having expired (After).
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Kindly avoid making authoritative comments based on second hand experiences. There are a bunch of owners speaking here from their own experiences, let them do the talking about issues with the old Safari.
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I dont have to jump in the well to know I will drown and my opinion is based upon feedback from majority of owners posted here.(if you want I can compile a list of all those). I didnt made it out of the blue. It will change as improved feedback is posted.
Exactly. "Wise men learn from others' experiences, fools from their own."
Many would want to solidly argue with the above. More power to them!
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Hey kdeepakk, why have you blanked out the odometer? Any particular reason?
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Hey kdeepakk, why have you blanked out the odometer? Any particular reason?
It was driven more, just dint wanted to show how much the vehicle was tested before launch.
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The rear AC



The net



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The roof AC


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i have driven the previous safari a lot,for me the only issues were engine and gearbox vibrations and the narrow powerband otherwise it is a fine suv with unmatched comfort.if the new 2.2 adresses the above issues its going to be sort of perfect vehicle for me,for this price do you expect it to handle like a cayenne or to have aston martin quality interiors?
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sorry but just want to know
does this 2.2 safari comes with intercooler ?
anyone checked?
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does this 2.2 safari comes with intercooler ?
yes it comes with a intercooler, in the pics you can see the piping connected to the intercooler.
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sorry but just want to know
does this 2.2 safari comes with intercooler ?
anyone checked?
Most common rail direct injection diesel engines come with a turbo and intercooler
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