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Old 4th January 2014, 20:19   #106
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Saw a report in Malayala Manorama that Mercedes sold 9003 cars in India in 2013.
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Saw a report in Malayala Manorama that Mercedes sold 9003 cars in India in 2013.
Yes and Audi sells 10002 cars in 2013.
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The official TBhp December car sales figures are not out yet. Until then some info.
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From April to December 2013, Mahindra has sold 166,622 units, 18 percent less that the same period last year.Compared to 2012, the industry saw a nearly 10 per cent drop in sales in 2013, making the year one of the industry’s worst since the turn of the century.r sales stood at 16,436 units for the month, a 28 percent dip from December 2012. From April to December 2013, Mahindra has sold 166,622 units, 18 percent less that the same period last year. New cars launched last year like the Quanto have failed to make a mark and the Verito Vibe too isn’t doing too well. After huge demand for the XUV 500 in the beginning, sales have hit a plateau around the 2,500-3,000 mark. The Bolero and Scorpio continue to be the Company’s best selling models. Sales of commercial 4-wheelers like the Maxximo, Gio, Genio and Bolero Pick up have gone up 5 percent in December and 2 percent overall. Against 1.94 lakh car units sold in December 2012, manufacturers were only able to move around 1.84 lakh units, a decline of 5 per cent. Carmakers such as GM, Mahindra and Toyota registred decline in sales, even Ford India failed to capitalise on the success of the EcoSport with an overall fall in sales figures.In December 2013, Maruti sold 86,613 units in the domestic market as compared to 82,073 units during the same month in 2012, growing 5.5 per cent. Meanwhile, Hyundai Motors India Limited (HMIL) sold 28,345 units in India in December 2013 — 1648 units more than what it sold during the same period in 2012. While the exports numbers fell by 1.9 per cent in December, the domestic growth of 6.2 per cent ensured that it registered a net growth of 2.6 per cent.
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Yes and Audi sells 10002 cars in 2013.
The Malayala Manorama report says that Audi reports the number of cars despatched to the dealerships, but Mercedes reports the number of cars sold to customers. So the gap is probably smaller than the current 1000, but unlikely to be significantly smaller.
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The low Amaze numbers can also attributed to the production of new city whose numbers are not included since they are still to be dispatched to the dealers. Not sure but this can be one of the reasons
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Exactly! Honda seems to have prioritized new city production in December. The city ads are on TV.
I don' agree to you at all. For last 3 months sales numbers of Amaze are coming down. Every month sales are down than previous month. Only once they touched 9.5 K mark. They claim to have plant capacity of around manufacturing 10,000 + cars per month as discussed earlier. Are you guy's saying that they are manufacturing so many City's for last 3 months? Not possible at all. They will hardly make 5000 City's at the max before the official launch. Clearly they are not able to sell Amaze. Booking & waiting has vanished i guess. Why would Honda will not sell Amaze if their is huge demand?

Come on Honda, wake up. People will no more buy cars just because its a Honda. Change your attitude, change your cars. Else people will force you to change. Better late than never.
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The low Amaze numbers can also attributed to the production of new city whose numbers are not included since they are still to be dispatched to the dealers. Not sure but this can be one of the reasons
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Exactly! Honda seems to have prioritized new city production in December. The city ads are on TV.
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Clearly they are not able to sell Amaze. Booking & waiting has vanished i guess. Why would Honda will not sell Amaze if their is huge demand?

Come on Honda, wake up. People will no more buy cars just because its a Honda. Change your attitude, change your cars. Else people will force you to change. Better late than never.
I think the imminent launch of City is the reason for low Amaze sales but there are two factors that are contributing to it and prioritizing the production of City might be the secondary factor.

The way I see it, most of the potential customers of Amaze have decided to wait for the City to be launched and would be planning to go one segment higher. Amaze enjoyed such good numbers till now because it was the only diesel from Honda and people were willing to compromise on the smaller size and poor looks of Amaze for a diesel engine. With a City diesel round the corner, they need not compromise anymore. The current Amaze numbers are mainly those who cannot wait or those who cannot afford City diesel. Everybody else seems to be waiting.
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I believe that all the manufacturers would be having some statistics and analytics on most common issues that the cars have when they come for service. Do they use these to rectify the issues subsequently ? Can't they share these stats as well on monthly basis ? Cant SIAM or some body mandate them to make them public on net.

This should help new car buyers take informed decisions.
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The official December sales thread hasn't been posted yet. It must be a case of one manufacturer not sharing their sales figures, and hence holding up the entire analysis.

Meanwhile, here are the passenger vehicle sales for the month of December 2013 (domestic sales only) for some manufacturers (December 2012 domestic sales in brackets):

Maruti Suzuki - 86,613 (82,073)

Hyundai - 28,345 (26,697)

Mahindra - 16,436 (22,761)

Toyota - 10,648 (12,071)

Tata - 9,272 (14,185)

Ford - 5,871 (6,517)

Chevrolet - 5,705 (7,067)

Honda - 5,493 (4,242)

Sources: Press releases and news reports

The other manufacturers' sales numbers are not available for now. We'll have to wait for the official December sales thread for those figures and of course, the individual models' sales performance along with the painstakingly prepared tables and charts.

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I believe that all the manufacturers would be having some statistics and analytics on most common issues that the cars have when they come for service. Do they use these to rectify the issues subsequently ? Can't they share these stats as well on monthly basis ? Cant SIAM or some body mandate them to make them public on net. This should help new car buyers take informed decisions.
OT: I believe in the UK, banks have a way of projecting themselves by the customer satisfaction they provide. They declare the number of complaints received to addressed ratio. I guess it is also in the regulation for them to report it.
In automobile Industry though the manufacturer "recall" could be one to be inferred. Its highly regulated in developed countries and not so much in India. The manufacturers would lobby highly against any stats on the issues on a monthly basis as it could completely ruin their products worthiness.

I guess this is unusually long for the Dec'2013 sales analysis to be up on the forum. Can we expect an exhaustive full year analysis than the usual YTD figures?
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TML back to sub 10k! Not a good thing at all. The festive season saw a marginal improvement and now they are back in red! It will be interesting to see their pavilion at the upcoming auto expo - will give an idea about where TML is headed to.

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Meanwhile, here are the passenger vehicle sales for the month of December 2013 (domestic sales only) for some manufacturers (December 2012 domestic sales in brackets):

Ford - 5,871 (6,517)
Ford sales down from Dec 2012 even after the Ecosport launch is quite surprising.

What could be the reason for this? Less production of the EcoSport for the domestic market and almost zero demand for other Ford products? What happened to the Figo?
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Quite amazing results.. Honda, Ford & Chevrolet total sales more or less the same.

Ford says it has 60k bookings for Ecosport, so clearly it's allocating most of its capacity for exports.

Chevy seems to be quietly selling the Beat, Sail & Enjoy without as much marketing effort as the others.
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Its 7th of the month and yet to see the last month's report card!!

Eagerly awaiting the well compiled reports from GTO and Parry's.
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I think the imminent launch of City is the reason for low Amaze sales but there are two factors that are contributing to it and prioritizing the production of City might be the secondary factor.

The way I see it, most of the potential customers of Amaze have decided to wait for the City to be launched and would be planning to go one segment higher. Amaze enjoyed such good numbers till now because it was the only diesel from Honda and people were willing to compromise on the smaller size and poor looks of Amaze for a diesel engine. With a City diesel round the corner, they need not compromise anymore. The current Amaze numbers are mainly those who cannot wait or those who cannot afford City diesel. Everybody else seems to be waiting.
The sales number that we get to see are number of units shipped from manufacturer to dealers and it is not necessarily an indicator of demand. Usually car manufacturers produce and ship lesser quantities in December to avoid high unsold inventory of previous year. The decision to cut down on production is taken basis count of unsold inventory with dealers.

Most of the customers booking their vehicles from now on will demand 2014 manufactured cars and hence a huge potential loss if auto makers were carrying lot of inventory from 2013.

Following chart shows lower numbers reported in Dec'12 with huge spike in Jan'13
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This month's report is especially significant for me for a rather cynical reason. Need to gauge the sales figures of the Beat D to be able to up the bargaining ante further. Post # 113 is somewhat of an indicator.
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