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Old 3rd January 2014, 12:22   #46
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I believe this is a conscious decision on part of manufacturers to spread out their offering in terms of price point by varying the trim levels.

Let us not turn away from the fact that this makes a lot of difference to a car buyer and he can choose the beauty according to the resources he has. Not that these cars are ugly in any matter to me. Just a bit more utilitarian.
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As a matter of fact many drivers don't even open the ORVMs while driving.
Perhaps they don't work.

I typically have to get new side mirrors every few months because of the Indian traffic. After one of my side mirrors got knocked off, I got the MGP part and had it fitted. On my way home from the service center, it got smashed again. I gave up and got a cheap side mirror so the car doesn't look like it has been in an accident but the side mirror can't be adjusted to actually see traffic. Surprisingly enough, these cheap side mirrors are no longer a lightning rod for accidents.

Perhaps the MGP mirrors reflected the sunlight in the eye of the drivers on a cloudy morning and hypnotized them to act like moths and ram into the side of my car, or these cheap Chinese side mirrors come with lots of positive karma and the blessings of Buddha so as to prevent accidents altogether (no more weekly accidents since I got them) therefore eliminating the need to provide for any kind of adjustment on the mirrors.
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Dear OP,

no offence to you personally, but, this is economics!

I assume that you know that different parts of the car are processed/manufactured/made in different processes and places.
Lets talk about body colored ORVM and bumpers. The body shell of a car is painted by spray painting the whole body in one go! When it is painted, it is in a state of total nakedness. It doesnt have a single thing on it other than the body shell itself.
Then it goes into the assembly line for further processing.
Now, it's a given, that almost no car company manufactures it's own bumpers or door handles or ORVM's. They are ordered from outside specialist vendors on a contract basis. The thing about these items is that they're made only in black.
When a company makes an entry level model, it's basic funda is to offer the automobile at the lowest rate to attract the customers. Secondly, the company also has to keep in mind that the customer who buys a car for rs10 lac doesnt feel that he has no snob value over the customer who has paid 7.5 lacs for the same car but a lower variant.
This might sound silly, but such is the psychological perception of 'status' of many people i personally know. I think the car companies know this and hence offer the black door handles and orvm's.
Take en example of Honda City(outgoing generation). It's base model comes with ABS and 2 airbags but it doesnt offer body colored door handles and ORVM's.

So i guess each company does things differently. But one thing is for sure.....the base models with ugly-looks are here to stay for a good while.
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It is just to get people into the showrooms.

Most non-car enthusiast friends I know still think Ecosport costs 5.5 lac. I'll be like . But yeah, I have to give it to Ford for its strategic marketing. Titanium TDCi costs like 11lac here OTR. Imagine, if Ford advertised Ecosport as 11 lac, most people who are interested in the car now wouldn't even enter the showrooms.

And it is a common practice wordwide. In US and UK, certain base variants do not even come with AC. Manufacturers claim - starts from xxxx price.
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It is just to get people into the showrooms.

Most non-car enthusiast friends I know still think Ecosport costs 5.5 lac. I'll be like . But yeah, I have to give it to Ford for its strategic marketing. Titanium TDCi costs like 11lac here OTR. Imagine, if Ford advertised Ecosport as 11 lac, most people who are interested in the car now wouldn't even enter the showrooms.

And it is a common practice wordwide. In US and UK, certain base variants do not even come with AC. Manufacturers claim - starts from xxxx price.
Exactly my thought, you can't make cars only for the high end class people. There are families who are aiming for Nano but still find it difficult to get the ends meet if they invest in the Nano but they have to settle for a Hero Shine or Splendor or Passion Pro.

The Swift and Ritz that sell in good numbers if taken as example, 70% of them are VDi/VXi;20-25% are LDi/LXi and the rest are ZDi/ZXi. That itself says of the buying power of the masses.

The main problem is the lack of awareness of safety features than the stupid painted door mirrors etc, the need of the ABS, Airbags and wider tyres are main things needed along with good sense driving.

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We're in one of the most unfortunate car markets in the world. Taxed to death, priced to death, yet not getting the bang for the buck. No point in cribbing. This is the way of life in this part of the world!
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Dear OP,

the company also has to keep in mind that the customer who buys a car for rs10 lac doesnt feel that he has no snob value over the customer who has paid 7.5 lacs for the same car but a lower variant.
This might sound silly, but such is the psychological perception of 'status' of many people i personally know. I think the car companies know this and hence offer the black door handles and orvm's.
Agreed totally on the all the marketing strategy and then make the customers to 'shy away' from the un-aesthetic appeal the basic variants give and 'upgrade' them to the next variants. But, although true of the 'status' thing you said, can't agree somehow with manufacturers resorting to this strategy. Well, equally, so do the cars stand in the respective segments! But, let's face it, as someone pointed, we are in the part of the world where anything is sacrificed for money, be it safety or aesthetics. Cribbing about it never is going to help!

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The main problem is the lack of awareness of safety features than the stupid painted door mirrors etc, the need of the ABS, Airbags and wider tyres are main things needed along with good sense driving.

Anurag.
But for the thread, I am totally with you anyday on having safety over aesthetics.
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Sometimes I wonder whether it's a better idea to buy the top-end version of a lower segment car, compared to the base model of a higher segment car.

I must admit, I am a sucker for bells and whistles. Plus, I give a bit of importance to safety, so I will never buy a car without ABS & Airbags. Turns out, hardly any sub-10L car has those two safety features in the base models, which automatically notches the choice up to a mid-level variant, at least. It is then that I wonder why shouldn't I go for the highest end version on a lower segment, at a much cheaper price.
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