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Old 7th April 2014, 14:23   #181
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The name of the game here is 'DIESEL + AMT'. Whoever brings this combination first ( its the Tata ZEST right now), they have OWNED the market.

A Tata car after many years will have over flowing waiting periods and that will be the ZEST, trust me on this. Maruti lost a chance by not bring the Dzire or Swift Diesel with AMT first, Tata somehow foresaw the opportunity and here we have the ZEST.
Will Maruti ever be worried about a Tata car? Even the Nano couldn't cause any concerns. Not be belittle them but thats how it could be.
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Maruti Suzuki may be facing manufacturing constraints for AMT boxes now.These are being supplied from Italy. Even for AMT Celerio they are circulating 6 months waiting period (!) .So they may not come with AMT in other models , till the initial Celerio mania dies down. By that time the AMT boxes will be manufactured in India (Usual MS style of localizing parts).Once this is done then will come cheaper variants in Alto ,Wagon R and Ritz. MS may put AMT to Swift ,but delayed. The reason is that the Swift is selling in good numbers.
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Celerio has bookings of over 35,000 units; a significant number given the market situation.and over 49 per cent have been for the gearless variant.


Product, Pricing and Positioning are the reasons, believed by Maruti, as the success of Celerio.


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http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...campaign=cppst

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Celerio generated booking of 35000 !!! That's massive considering current market situation. Out of that 49 % is for AMT. That means 51 % is for Manual. So many people saying it's overpriced, but looks like most people don't agree to this. Great going Maruti. Increase the production to 10,000 + per month and launch AMT Zxi with optional too. It can join Maruti's premium 10 K + club for sure along with Swift, Dzire & Wagon R

Link : http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/33450213.cms
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Celerio could topple Alto's run of being the largest monthly sales figures.

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Celerio has been clocking 1,000 bookings a day. At this rate, Celerio, which was launched just two months ago at the Delhi Auto Expo, could surpass Maruti's own Alto as India's best-selling car. Maruti Alto has a sales volume of around 20,000-25,000 units per month.
5 reasons why Maruti Celerio is a grand hit, and why Indian buyers are ready to wait even six months to get delivery for this model are,

1. Pricing of variants
2. AMT - Clevery advertised
3. Low maintenace Technology ( auto shift)
4. Fuel efficiency - (no compromise with AMT)
5. After sales ( strong perception of MASS)

http://profit.ndtv.com/news/industri...and-hit-385365
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Waiting period for Maruti’s AMT Celerio shoots up to 7-8 months and beyond!


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The total demand for AMT Celerios has risen to 50 percent of the total 36,000 bookings so far.Even the MT Celerio ZXi version with airbags and alloy wheels is witnessing a four-month waiting period.
http://www.autocarpro.in/ap/news-nat...-shoots-months
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You got to give credit to Maruti's marketing team here. The buzz they have generated around the Celerio is commendable.

I had this discussion with a friend of mine who was considering the Celerio and was worried about the waiting period. I suggested-"Why don't you consider similar automatic options like the i10 or the Brio?". He replied "But Maruti is the only manufacturer to have Automatic transmission in small cars right? "

That explains the situation. People who didn't really care about automatic transmissions earlier are now considering the Celerio eyes closed.
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You got to give credit to Maruti's marketing team here. The buzz they have generated around the Celerio is commendable.

I had this discussion with a friend of mine who was considering the Celerio and was worried about the waiting period. I suggested-"Why don't you consider similar automatic options like the i10 or the Brio?". He replied "But Maruti is the only manufacturer to have Automatic transmission in small cars right? "

That explains the situation. People who didn't really care about automatic transmissions earlier are now considering the Celerio eyes closed.
That is nothing. In my home state of AP, people don't even know what auto transmission means. And no, I am not referring to villagers. I am talking about city guys and engineers and some of them even visit US frequently where AT cars rules the roost. You have to tell them that auto transmission means automatic gears. Then next question is, "Is there such a thing? I know automatic scooter like Activa. But car?".
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Will Maruti ever be worried about a Tata car? Even the Nano couldn't cause any concerns. Not be belittle them but thats how it could be.
They were worried once. AFAIK they had announced a price reduction right before the Indica was launched.

I believe the Diesel+AMT combination will be a great advantage for TATA.
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They were worried once. AFAIK they had announced a price reduction right before the Indica was launched.

I believe the Diesel+AMT combination will be a great advantage for TATA.
It all depends on how well TATA will sell this. There are a lot of people who are deaf/blind to what TATA says/does.
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The buzz word 'AMT' has now caught up in the Indian bus industry - Over 2,000 buses in India to be fitted with AMT gearboxes this fiscal year (Though AMT from Wabco is different )

http://indianautosblog.com/2014/05/2...gearbox-130993

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AMT will be a standard in commercial vehicles soon.
As per market talk, long route 2 axle Volvo's which return 3.2 km/lit with manual gearbox improve to about 3.7 km/lit with i-shift which is Volvos equivalent of AMT.
City buses and heavy traffic routes should be able to show a much larger difference.

Driving comfort is an added advantage which operators may not consider, but will surely aid in road safety.

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Maruti Suzuki has confirmed that it has received orders for around 58,000 units of the Maruti Celerio, launched at the Auto Expo 2014.

Maruti has delivered about 28000 cars and 50% of them are of the AMT variant.

http://auto.economictimes.indiatimes...areek/35487404
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The buzz word 'AMT' has now caught up in the Indian bus industry - Over 2,000 buses in India to be fitted with AMT gearboxes this fiscal year (Though AMT from Wabco is different )

http://indianautosblog.com/2014/05/2...gearbox-130993
Buses have been using AMT long before it debuted in cars. Popular example is the Volvo I-shift
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Buses have been using AMT long before it debuted in cars. Popular example is the Volvo I-shift
Very true. AMT is common in intercity buses, and even buses with Torque converters are almost equally efficient as manuals and only marginally less efficient than AMT's.
This is because the converter is operational only while starting from a dead halt, and then remains locked up once the bus shifts to higher gears.

It follows two shift patterns depending on load and gradient.
Hi torque start is 1C-1L-2L-3L-4L-5L-6L
Normal start is 2C-2L-3L-4L-5L-6L.

In city buses with lots of stops and starts a major wearing component the clutch plate gets eliminated.

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