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Old 3rd May 2016, 17:29   #301
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I had mentioned this in the Renault AMT thread as well.
Yes, a person who has been driving regular automatics will definitely not be satisfied with the quality of shifts that an AMT provides.
However, for a person coming from a manual car, wouldn't the shifts be comparable, especially if we continue with the practice of taking our foot off the accelerator pedal and changing gears ourselves in the manual mode.
In that case wouldn't the shift quality be comparable and hence AMTs might be the perfect replacement for manuals as the fuel efficiency doesn't take a hit and we don't have to suffer from prolonged clutch use either.
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Sales of Mauri's AMT equipped cars have cross 1L Units as per Maruti Suzuki India Executive Director (Marketing and Sales) R.S. Kalsi. Out of these 97,000 were domestic sales and 3100 were exports.

The AGS variant of Celerio has sold about 66,000 units or 60 per cent of the total Celerio sales. Sales number for variants of Alto K-10 stood at over 18,000. For Wagon R and Dzire the number stood at about 12,000 and 2,200 units, respectively.

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The demand for automatics ( read mostly AMT) rises in India.

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The demand for automatic cars in the country have soared, new models flood the markets and 1 in every 10 cars sold in India is automatic.
A recent Frost & Sullivan report stated that during the period January to March 2016, automatic car sales in India commanded a market share of 10%.

More cars with AMT are in the pipeline as estimates state that by 2020-22, 25-30% of the auto market is expected to see a shift towards AMT variants.


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Hyundai late to realize the draw of customers towards AMT, but chalks a different strategy. To develop the AMT technology on its own.

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Joining the league of manufactures offering automated manual transmission (AMT), Hyundai is now working on its own version for India. Unlike the other brands, Hyundai will not source technology from leading AMT manufacturers such as Magneti Marelli or Ricardo, instead it will make the parts in-house at its AMT division.
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With the new Dzire petrol making the shift to AMT from the traditional 4 speed torque converter box, it marks the end of the era of (proper) automatics available in the Maruti showroom. If you want an AT , head to Nexa. Sad, since under promoted Maruti ATs of the past have made for some quite practical cars, viz., the Ritz AT and the Ertiga AT.
And I am sure the other manufacturers will follow. RIP budget ATs.
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Automatics ( primarily AMT's) under Rs 10 lakh are all the rage and more cars are expected to have the 2 pedal technology!

1 is every 10 cars sold today in India is driven by an automatic transmission.

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Automatic cars under Rs 10 lakh are the flavour of the season as automakers ranging from Maruti and Tata Motors to Mahindra & Mahindra are scrambling to meet a growing demand for the two-pedal passenger vehicles.
While AMT is not a very smooth transmission mechanism, it addresses the primary concern of fuel efficiency as well as the maintenance cost of the price-conscious Indian buyer. In fact the Celerio AMT is more fuel efficient than the manual variant.

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Last year, Maruti Suzuki saw volumes of automatic cars jump 66 percent to nearly 95,000 units as compared to nearly 57,000 units sold in 2015-16. It offers automatics ranging from the small Alto to the sedan Ciaz.
Maruti Suzuki's take on AT's:
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Overall, the objective is to expand the two-pedal technologies that bring comfort and ease of driving to the customers
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Going forward, Maruti Suzuki's endeavour is to bring one of the two-pedal technologies to its models, across segments in some form either AGS, CVT or AT
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Being the leader in small cars Maruti has the largest chunk of automatic offerings on models priced below Rs 10 lakh (see table). As of today there are as many as 27 models shared between nine manufacturers having the automatic option.
New Dzire:

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Save for the base variants, the new Dzire by Maruti Suzuki will come with an option of automatic gearbox for each of the six variants making it the most saleable model with an auto option.

The Dzire will have eight main variants out of which six will come with an option of automatic gear shift (AGS). Usually, manufacturers offer just one of two variants in a model with an auto option.

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What's with this new jargon "two-pedal" technology?

Are they trying to disassociate from the negative connotations of automatic transmission in the Indian market?

Whatever it is, I am glad they are doing something about it.

Anyhow, the other day I came across this thread about Maruti's AMT woes, which I somehow missed all this while. I think it may be of interest to people reading this thread.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-amt-woes.html (Maruti's AMT woes)
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Going ahead, Maruti-Suzuki is aiming to double it's AT market share by 2017-18 and is targeting cumulative sales of 3 lakh AT units by 2020.

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Maruti expects to nearly double its two-pedal technology model sales from 79,000 units in FY-16-17 to 1,50,000 units in FY17-18, said company officials.

Going forward, Maruti’s endeavour is to bring one of the two-pedal technologies to its models, across segments in some form, either auto gear shift, CVT or AT,” Maruti’s executive director R&D, C V Raman said.

In models where two-pedal options are available, the technology’s share has grown from 5% in FY14-15 to 11% in FY16-17 as Maruti offers one of the three two-pedal versions on more models.

Our experience on AGS has been quite positive,” said a company spokesperson. “It accounts for over 40% sales in Celerio, Wagon R 13 %, Alto 15%, Ignis 26%. Besides, of the total two pedal technology sold in India, 54 % comes from AGS. However, in some models the CVT works better as in Baleno while in others AT works better like Ertiga and Ciaz. With enhanced awareness we expect more first time buyers and rural penetration.”
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Its just a matter of time before AMTs increase in shift speed and efficiency too, while being cost competitive for the Indian market. That's the natural progression of any technology for that matter.

Magnetti already does a racing AMT gearbox so its a matter of time for technology to flow down the ladder.
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Bhpians,

Re-posting an old question.

Can the AMT be retrofitted to older cars with the MJD engine? Has anyone attempted it? What would be the cost and reliability concerns?
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Re-posting an old question.

Can the AMT be retrofitted to older cars with the MJD engine? Has anyone attempted it? What would be the cost and reliability concerns?
You can fit the required parts, but the setup wont work since the TCM requires good collaboration with the rest of the controllers in the car like the ECM and BCM for proper functioning. Hence, retrofitting an AMT wont work unless you change too many parts, wiring and stuff.
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A technology made popular in India in 2014 is now a runaway success and all manufactures are having this variant,which is proven to record more percentage of sales, in their portfolio. TATA motors being the latest to embrace this technology.

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I saw some threads on AMT problems in maruti vehicles, commonly in celerio (and alto also I think, not sure). then there was another about tuv300. Are these specific to these cars, or is AMT problems common across all the brands/models?
I am not talking about shift quality or shift speed, but the problems discussed threads like these.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-amt-woes.html (Maruti's AMT woes)
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techni...-solve-th.html
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AMT is a 2 decade old technology which is being offered as the next coming of Jesus to Indian customers. Yes it is cheap and just about get's the job done but anyone who uses a regular automatic can never get used to the crude and jerky AMT. Yes they have improved but even the best take ages to respond when you demand instant downshift.
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The key things going for AMT is that it is only 40K more expensive compared to a manual. CVTs are 1 to 1.5 lakh more expensive. AMT also is cheaper on the pocket to replace, gives better mileage in real world conditions than CVT and has a higher mileage warranty.
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