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Old 28th April 2015, 08:49   #211
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That's 4 forward + 1 Reverse. Not 5 Forward...
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According to ACI, it's 5 forward.
Hi, I just confirmed with Tata Motors, it's 5 forward + 1 reverse for the 'EASY Shift' AMT.

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Nice! Though I prefer the look of the older car, AMT + open-able tailgate are great additions. All black interiors would have been the cherry on the cake.

Have they moved the fuel nozzle from inside the bonnet? It feels really awkward to open the bonnet to fill fuel. Tata will do better to make it exposed like the motorcycles or other sports cars or the ambassador.
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Another pic of the AMT Gear Stick :
PICS: Tata begins testing Nano Twist Active AMT-1430199665925.jpg

And another look at the Zest-y steering :
PICS: Tata begins testing Nano Twist Active AMT-1430199821521.jpg

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Both look rather upmarket.

Rear Hatch
PICS: Tata begins testing Nano Twist Active AMT-1430199918929.jpg

As we know, making a hatch door is even more expensive than a boot lid.

Looking at the premium interiors, I'd guess this is NOT going to be priced low.

Apart from that, I've always had my doubts about the reduced structural integrity with a non-sealed rear.

IMO it'll do them well if they can introduce the AMT in the regular Nano Twist, as a low cost variant.

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I'd guess this is NOT going to be priced low
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This seems like a perfect city runabout - with an AT to boot! I will be surprised if they price it less than 3.5-4 lakhs.
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The power window switches have been moved ahead of the gear lever. It won't be easier to use them especially for shorter (read women) drivers.
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A question about the creep function - Will it put additional load on the brake? E.g. In traffic, I will use the brake to control the car (not shift to neutral every time). As the car is supposed to creep - will it mean that the brake is under tension? I have experienced this in a Mazda 3 when I was in the US so asking.

On an additional note is the 5 speed + reverse actually Creep+4 speed+ reverse?

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How is the creep function different to what the Alto K10 has in its AMT unit, isnt it the same?
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A question about the creep function - Will it put additional load on the brake? E.g. In traffic, I will use the brake to control the car (not shift to neutral every time). As the car is supposed to creep - will it mean that the brake is under tension? I have experienced this in a Mazda 3 when I was in the US so asking.

On an additional note is the 5 speed + reverse actually Creep+4 speed+ reverse?

Awaiting the TBhp review, almost decided this to be in my garage in the next couple of months.
Creep = slipping clutch

So 5 + reverse simply means 5 forward gears + reverse. I'm pretty sure that the creep function would work only in first gear and that the clutch would be fully released when the brake is pressed.
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What is the requirement of twin tailgate gas struts?

Even Maruti 800 used to come with a single tailgate gas strut. And it used to serve the purpose very well.

No more cost cutting with the Nanos? Or manufacturer's low level of confidence in the quality of product?
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This seems like a perfect city runabout - with an AT to boot! I will be surprised if they price it less than 3.5-4 lakhs.
Personally, I guess it'll be safe to assume a 3.5L price, they *could* start with an introductory price, but 3.5L is my personal guess.


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What is the requirement of twin tailgate gas struts?

Even Maruti 800 used to come with a single tailgate gas strut. And it used to serve the purpose very well.

No more cost cutting with the Nanos? Or manufacturer's low level of confidence in the quality of product?
Why doubt their intentions? They seem to've turned a new page with the Zest & Bolt, the small little auto-enthu in me wants to be positive.

IMO its a good sign they've started providing good features on the Nano, taking it away from the 'el-cheapo' image people had of it.

Just came across the rather impressive new instrument panel :
PICS: Tata begins testing Nano Twist Active AMT-img_20150428_131813.jpg

In many ways, it's almost new car altogether!

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Another details that Tata's always miss is painting steel rims black in models which are using wheel covers. Having a silver steel rim peeking though the silver wheel cover spoils the stance and overall look. It is the same story with other Tata cars as well. Do not know when they will learn something as basic as this.
Would just like to highlight, the steel was painted black in the Manza.
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On the topic of Nano, WOW! Although I didn't like the new exteriors, the interiors look nice & the AMT lever is very upmarket. There doesn't seem to be cost cutting in quality from the primary looks of it. I hope the pricing in fair.
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Wow!

Can't call this el-cheapo by any standards. Even my Elite i20 doesn't have DTE/ AVG gauges

IMO, Tata should not price this too high. It makes more sense for them make this car a hit, before milking the profits.
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What is the requirement of twin tailgate gas struts?
Tailgate balancer struts are a functional requirement.
TML engineers must have calculated and inferred that the new tailgate weight the hinge load, hinge angle and opening aperture calls for two instead of one strut.
Had they given a single strut the Nano, being a tall car, hence a heavier rear tailgate compared to the M-800 which had a much lesser height, the tailgate could potentially "sag" causing hinge deformation.
Also i am sure slam test of the tailgate would have driven the inclusion of twin balancers.

One thing is for sure: The amount of experience TML Nano engineers have, in cost rationalisation, had there been a remotest possibility, they would have bunged in a single strut, maybe even haf-a-strut!
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Tata always over promise & under deliver. Hope it is diffferent this time. The Nano AMT has to be a much better product to compete with the Alto K10 AMT. Poor build quality has been a hallmark of Nanos for quite some time. Regarding pricing- Tata has no choice but to price it cheaper than Alto because even if they are priced the same - the Alto will win the sales race in an absolute canter. Cant wait for Team BHP's review !
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Regarding pricing- Tata has no choice but to price it cheaper than Alto because even if they are priced the same - the Alto will win the sales race in an absolute canter.
The price WILL be below the Alto. The question is by how much. If it is close, then Nano will only lose. Customers also have an option in the Eon - different trims bridging the gap between 3.6L (expected price of Nano AMT in BLR) and the Alto's price in the 4-5L bracket. (Even though the Eon doesnt have an AMT at this time)

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