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Old 2nd July 2015, 16:57   #646
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This is a welcome change from the usual roll out of cars by MSIL.

That XUV,Magnum kind of torque rating is to die for on a car.

I am not a fan of the compact SUV segment, but this one with its A-Class kind of look and the 1.6 engine will keep the enthusiast happy .
I completely agree with you. That 320 NM of torque from a turbocharged diesel motor is addictive. If MSIL stresses on this engine on their paper and TV advertisements, people will really take the S Cross seriously. S Cross is the first 1.6 MultiJet engine powered in India, so MSIL should take this opportunity to boast the debut of the motor in their ads.
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Rubbish safety kit. Look at XUV500, EcoSport and Creta which are at, above and below in positioning to know what I mean. Where is all that kit which let this car score 5-stars in Euro NCAP ? Most likely it was all done away with to reduce weight and give an ARAI mileage of 22.7 for the DDiS 320 engine
Can you please provide details?

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Can you please provide details?
I believe he was referring to the fact that the international spec S-Cross has much more equipment than the Indian S-Cross- 7 airbags (including a driver-knee airbag), electronic stability program, anti-lock braking system and electronic brake-force distribution.

I personally am devastated that they don't have an automatic at launch.

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I personally am devastated that they don't have an automatic at launch
True. But see the reasoning behind in not giving a petrol variant nor AT variant at launch. They might at a later date if the demand is there.

On not giving a petrol variant.

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The smart, only diesel powertrain move we were talking about earlier should payoff, considering the fact that petrol variants consist an insignificant 5-6 per cent in this segment
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Maruti feels that there is no need of an automatic transmission just yet, as the AT seekers are very few in the market.
http://www.zigwheels.com/reviews-adv...-review/22371/

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This is a welcome change from the usual roll out of cars by MSIL.

I am guessing that the S-Cross would create a good impression like the Swift did ten years ago.

That XUV,Magnum kind of torque rating is to die for on a car.

I am not a fan of the compact SUV segment, but this one with its A-Class kind of look and the 1.6 engine will keep the enthusiast happy .
Not just XUV, its torque to weight ratio is better than Fortuner (not saying that Fortuner is too much, it too is a 4-banger)

Should not be a problem smoking them on Highways
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Well played Maruti. Sourcing the 1.6 MJD directly from Italy is daft ! Although, Maruti is known to bog down to high demands and longer wait times. I wonder how this will pan out when engines need to be imported.

Also like the fact there is an option for all black interiors. It is a welcome change from the beige fascination we have. The alloys look miserable though!

One more reason for Fiat to go laughing to the bank!!

Will Fiat use the S-Cross as a guinea pig to test the 1.6 MJD in India??
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In international makets, S-Cross comes with panaromic sunroof and Suzuki Allgrip drive system. It is really unfortunate that these are missing from the initial launch. I was hoping at least sunroof would make it to the India version.
I wonder what thinking at Maruti prompted it to delete this from the list of features. It would have been such a nice catchy feature to add to the product line. They could have restricted to top versions but at least this would have provided customers the option to have it.
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If priced around 8-8.2L for base Diesel, Ciaz will get a beating, IMO. But the availability of Petrol model will help Ciaz.

I guess all those missing options like auto gear, 6 airbags, AWD, sun roof etc will come in the form of the new sporty Vitara at a higher price point! And if the SCross fails (primarily due to its looks), they have the option of bringing the base versions of Vitara in the same price point as that of SCross, because in international markets, they are priced on par.
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This is a bigger, larger, spacious, more powerful, better equipped Swift.

Makes a natural choice for Swift owners looking to upgrade as well as a wonderful alternative to prospective Duster/ Terrano buyers.

Relatively low stance, adequate ground clearance, Diesel motors with abundant torque, extensive feature list- this car has almost everything.

4 Wheel drive in such a low slung vehicle would be pointless to a certain extent for this country with no snow in most parts, but an automatic gearbox option might have been very nice. Not just the drivers in the cities, but for cruising on highways with those torquey engines and for those who have to work the clutch and gearbox over frequent rough patches on country roads, an automatic transmission is a boon. Hope Maruti provides that option in the near future.

The only unknown quantity is the pricing- hope Maruti gets it right.
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Rubbish safety kit. Look at XUV500, EcoSport and Creta which are at, above and below in positioning to know what I mean. ..
While I agree with XUV /Ecosport on being better safety kitted, would love to know what makes Creta superior to this in terms of safety?

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...Is it that really loaded? Suzuki may call it a premium product and sell it under the premium dealership umbrella, but that premium tag probably works when compared to other products in their own portfolio. This is a heavily watered down version compared to the S-Cross in other markets (probably to gain on pricing). There were glowing comments on how well the S-Cross performed in the ASEAN NCap tests. Below are the key safety features of the S-Cross in Malaysia, and you'll see how well-loaded it is compared to what we will be getting...
Considering the usual Maruti trend, this is well loaded. As I mentioned before, we are so used to the low feature offerings than we deserve, I suddenly feel Maruti is doing me a favour. I wouldn't even dare to think of their abroad models.

Was thinking, other than the 1.6L engine, how would this differentiate from Fronx after it's release?!

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Appreciate Maruti for daring to bring out something different. That torque is very decent!

However, I think it's a very discering buy - like the Baleno Altura. Not everyone's cup of tea, doesn't have the much-in-demand butch/SUV look which the Creta has in spades.
I was looking out for a i10 AT replacement for the missus and unfortunately, no AT rules out this option immediately.

And yes, I've never seen anyone doing a better job of making alloy wheels look like wheel caps!
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Hi, what makes you think that weight is reduced? UK version of the cars weigh about 1185 kgs, exactly same as the Indian version. Kudos to Maruti for not using thin metal sheets here.
It is thin anyway, any thinner would be tinny : 1185 kilos for 4.3m is, not quite "beefy" IMHO. Advanced metallurgy and not absolute thickness of the sheet, may have a role to play, probably.

The ground clearance is 180mm, (Ertiga too), and no efforts have been made to put a guard to reduce the "effective" GC for lower taxes. Not SUV segment then..or what is the rule?

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Well played Maruti. Sourcing the 1.6 MJD directly from Italy is daft ! Although, Maruti is known to bog down to high demands and longer wait times. I wonder how this will pan out when engines need to be imported.

Also like the fact there is an option for all black interiors. It is a welcome change from the beige fascination we have. The alloys look miserable though!

One more reason for Fiat to go laughing to the bank!!

Will Fiat use the S-Cross as a guinea pig to test the 1.6 MJD in India??
As far as I know, FIAT is working on 1.5 MJD instead of 1.6. The work is in progress and thus Maruti was forced to import the engine rather than getting it made in India. Needless to say FIAT has already become an engine company and its this business which is why they are still selling cars here
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It is thin anyway, any thinner would be tinny : 1185 kilos for 4.3m is, not quite "beefy" IMHO. Advanced metallurgy and not absolute thickness of the sheet, may have a role to play, probably.
Vento is 4390mm long with 1140 kg weight. I am absolutely confident about it's safety. Any more weight well make a car prehistoric IMHO.
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I suppose the ERTIGA will be the biggest casualty from the launch of the S cross.
They are both very similar in many ways.
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