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Old 18th October 2015, 11:01   #1096
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Took delivery of the black TUV300 T8 yesterday
Congratulations Captain Rex , TUV looks excellent in Black color. Happy driving.

I have read that even the jump seats are comfortable with good back support. Could you please share your personal experience in case you use it on a long drive?
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Took delivery of the black TUV300 T8 yesterday from Zulaikha Motors, Chennai.
Initial experience
Though a bit late, please accept my congratulations CAPTAIN REX. I have also bitten the bullet, booked a TUV3OO - TS (manual) today morning.

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1. Found the clutch to be slightly harder and more springy and the gear more rubbery than the vehicle I test drove earlier. Hope these will bite in to be more comfortable as time and miles go past, as today I felt that the clutch was getting lighter and the gear more manageable.
I guess all new cars will exhibit this behaviour. The manual I test drove today morning had a very soft clutch and the gears were slotting perfectly. I was immediately at home with the clutch and gear as I have been driving the Innova for the last one year. My Innova's clutch was rather hard (after 68K kms). Also the gear slotting of the TUV was far better than my now sold Innova.

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2. With the seat pushed forward to my driving position found it difficult to access the fuel lid opening lever below the drivers seat. Either you push the seat backwards or open the door to gain better access to the lever.
Will keep this in mind and try it out the next time I test drive the TUV. I drive with legs fully stretched and seat pushed backward, so should not be a problem at least for me.

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The fuel cap is not attached to the body, so chances of the fuel station attender forgetting to replace the cap after fueling exists. (I lost my Maruti 800 fuel cap way back in 1998).
Point noted. Hope M&M comes up with some mechanism to attached the fuel cap with the body.

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3. Drive-ability, due to the good torque, in traffic is excellent, except for the slightly hard clutch, and managed to take a tight 'U' turn from almost standstill in 3 rd gear without feeling the engine getting strained.
Power: 84 bhp @ 3750 rpm
Torque: 230 Nm @ 1500-2250
Note: A torque of 187 Nm comes at an rpm as low as 1100 rpm.

What does this mean? TUV has not so good top end, but has enough grunt at low end, hence good driveability.

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4. Cornering lights worked great, and is quite bright.
Thanks for that info. Please let such tid-bits keep coming from you frequently

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Will try and get an ownership report out soon.
That is the need of the hour Sir. put up your ownership report asap and I would be the first one getting hooked to it as I have already committed myself to the TUV now.

I will be getting the delivery of my TUV by Diwali (or may be before that if I am lucky)

Price break-up is mentioned below:



I would like to share the experience of my 3 test drives of TUV yesterday and today, twice it was the AMT and once it was the manual.

AMT:
Slot the car is first gear (gear indicator visible on the instrument cluster). Lift your right leg off the brake pedal. People used to driving manual diesels would anticipate the car to move forward, but actually nothing happens, though the gear shift indicates "1" on the cluster. Press the throttle gently and the car begins to move. It moves with eagerness beyond 1500 rpm. Lift your leg off the throttle and give a gentle push to the AMT gear lever, the second gear engages, rpm drops and the car, which was pulling strongly seems to have lost the steam. Again it builds up momentum as the rpm crosses 1500-2000 range. This way you can keep upshifting till you are in 5th gear, 80 kmph comes @ 2000 rpm. It can potter @ 60 kmph in 5th gear (1500 rpm). The moment you hot the brake pedal it begins to downshift. It senses the brake pressure and modulation of brake pedal downshifts smoothly. If you notice a speed hump from 50 metres and you are in 5th gear, a gentle tap on brake would downshift it to 4th, again a second tap would downshift to 3 and again one more downshift to 2nd. Now you can easily cross the speed brake on 2nd gear and pull cleanly from thereon, by a gentle push on the A pedal.

Biggest negatives of AMT:
I was on an incline near the showroom gate. Car came to a standstill and the first gear was engaged. Now to prevent roll back I pressed the brake pedal. The moment I lifted my right leg off the pedal and tried to press the accelerator, the car began to roll back. If you press the A pedal aggressively, the car may move forward with a jerk. Very dangerous in choc-a-block traffic and at signals. Next time when I came to a standstill on an incline, I engaged the handbrake. This prevented the car from rolling back. Then I gently started pushing the accelerator, as the car was trying to move forward, I released the handbrake. This time it was a smooth maneuver. A hill hold assist function is a must for the AMT.

Also while putting the car in reverse in my apartment parking, I put the AMT lever to the "R" position. Lifting the foot from the brake did not make the car move backwards, I had to gently press the accelerator. While reversing any manual car, I always prefer keeping my right leg over the brake and left leg over the clutch. This way if I have to stop by pressing brake, I can do half clutch, so that the engine does not die off, but this is not a possibility in the AMT as there is no clutch pedal. May be one can try putting right foot on accelerator and the left one on the brake, this way there would be better control.

No such problems in the manual, getting off from standstill, just release the clutch, a gentle push on the "A" pedal and the car surges ahead. Getting the car in reverse, just release the clutch.

The steering is pretty good to hold and you get good control of direction. Pot holes and speed brakers are dismissed without any fuss. My wife knowingly sat on the jump seats to check them out if they were comfortable and she did not complain. Not sure if it is the high profile tyres or the suspension, but the car just glides over craters.

Noise insulation is remarkably good for this 3 potter. I was very apprehensive about the NVH levels, but the 3 test drives have just blown me away. On the outside the engine is barely audible and once the windows are rolled up, the cabin is super silent (by my standards as I am used to a noisy and seemingly crude sounding Innova diesel). The engine firewall insulation, then damping under the hood and the dual mass flywheel. Dual mass flywheel completely isolates Engine torsional vibrations. Results in elimination of drive-train rattles and low NVH. No vibrations on the clutch pedal or gear lever. Gears were also sure slotting.

Till the time I get my car delivered, I am going to get as many test drives as possible to get some more nuances of the car. Enjoy some pictures.

The test drive car in my apartment parking - Perfect fit
Next-generation Mahindra Bolero? NAMED: Mahindra TUV300!  EDIT: Now launched at Rs. 6.90 lakhs-test-drive-car-my-apartment-parking-perfect-fit.jpg

The test drive car in my apartment parking - As seen from front
Next-generation Mahindra Bolero? NAMED: Mahindra TUV300!  EDIT: Now launched at Rs. 6.90 lakhs-test-drive-car-my-apartment-parking-seen-front.jpg

The Molten Orange display car in the showroom

Next-generation Mahindra Bolero? NAMED: Mahindra TUV300!  EDIT: Now launched at Rs. 6.90 lakhs-molten-orange-display-car-showroom.jpg

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I have also bitten the bullet, booked a TUV3OO - TS (manual) today morning.

I will be getting the delivery of my TUV by Diwali (or may be before that if I am lucky)
Whoa!! Unexpected!! from a MUV to a mini- SUV. Congratulations AutoIndian!

What made you consider the TUV300?

The TUV is not a photogenic car. Looks way better, actually quite brilliant in person that what pictures suggest.

So T8 costs less than 10l on-road in Pune. Quite a steal! Looking forward to your ownership report.
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Though a bit late, please accept my congratulations CAPTAIN REX. I have also bitten the bullet, booked a TUV3OO - TS (manual) today morning.
Congrats! Where have you booked it from - Kundan, Silver Jubilee or Sahyadri?


EDIT: What happened to the Ertiga plans?

Cheers,
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Whoa!! Unexpected!! from a MUV to a mini- SUV. Congratulations AutoIndian!

What made you consider the TUV300?

The TUV is not a photogenic car. Looks way better, actually quite brilliant in person that what pictures suggest.

So T8 costs less than 10l on-road in Pune. Quite a steal! Looking forward to your ownership report.
Actually on Sunday I had gone to the Silver Jubilee showroom to check out the XUV W4. I just thought of checking the TUV. I liked its stance, the interiors, space on offer. Asked for a test drive and immediately got one of the AMT. The pull, low end torque just blew me away. The 1.5, 3 potter is quite capable of pulling this 1.6 tonner and It dismissed the pot holes like they never existed. The steering felt precise and quite chunky to hold. Today morning I had a test drive along with whole family, Dad's go ahead sealed the deal. Yes T8 on road is just under 10 lacs in Pune, that is really a steal deal.

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Congrats! Where have you booked it from - Kundan, Silver Jubilee or Sahyadri?

EDIT: What happened to the Ertiga plans?

Cheers,
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I booked it at Silver Jubilee. Apparently it seems the other two dealers dont have a display car, leave aside a TD car. I guess the Ertiga was not destined to be in my garage.
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Though a bit late, please accept my congratulations CAPTAIN REX. I have also bitten the bullet, booked a TUV3OO - TS (manual) today morning.
Hearty Congrats AutoIndian!
I am loving the looks and the road presence of the TUV.

Congrats to Captain REX too! Excellent decision and the car looks great in black. Eagerly awaiting your ownership thread as well as the official Team BHP review.
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the TUV 300 middle model is displayed at Taramani (Ascendas) . Those interested may look at it. It is a red T6 I guess.
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I booked it at Silver Jubilee. Apparently it seems the other two dealers dont have a display car, leave aside a TD car. I guess the Ertiga was not destined to be in my garage.
Congrats !
Sahyadri motors has some problem with M&M and hence they are not selling TUVs.
My experience with Kundan was different they had AMT as well manual for TD. In fact I test drove AMT thrice.
I booked white T8 AMT last Tuesday and will get it for Dussehra. At the time of booking dealer told me 2 months waiting for AMT but yesterday got call and car is allotted and I am not complaining.
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Congrats !
Sahyadri motors has some problem with M&M and hence they are not selling TUVs.
My experience with Kundan was different they had AMT as well manual for TD. In fact I test drove AMT thrice.
I booked white T8 AMT last Tuesday and will get it for Dussehra. At the time of booking dealer told me 2 months waiting for AMT but yesterday got call and car is allotted and I am not complaining.
Many congratulations to you too silverknight. Gives some assurance that a fellow TBHPian from Pune has taken the jump on the TUV "tank"wagon . Good to know that Kundan Motors too have the TUV3OO for test drive and ready delivery. You are indeed very lucky, to get your car in 9 days flat after booking. Hope I can be at least half lucky as you. Good choice, white T8 AMT. Absolute value for money. I loved the AMT after test driving it two times. There are only two drawbacks as mentioned in my earlier post, car not moving in first gear, unless you press the accelerator and car not moving when reverse gear is engaged, unless you press the accelerator. Do let me know how you plan to overcome these, otherwise the AMT is simply superb to drive and offers a lot of convenience.

For me too the dealer mentioned 1.5 to 2 months for AMT delivery. Since I wanted the car before Diwali, I went ahead with manual. He however mentioned that if an AMT of my choice becomes available before Diwali, he can allocate that to me.

Note: I am sending you my contact details in private message. Do share yours please.

Edit: Please share with us your booking experience and the break-up of onroad price.

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Congratulations AutoIndian and silverknight on your TUV.
Wishing you both peaceful and trouble free ownership experience. The TUV is absolute VFM whichever variant you pick. Pls do share your buying experience and ownership reviews.

silverknight, did you consider the Zest AMT as well? Zest is 1 lac lesser than TUV, but then TUV is an SUV and offers the flexibility of additional seats. Just wanted to know.
Cheers

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So here is my story ...

I own a Figo which I bought about 5.5 years ago and last year I was thinking about getting Bolero for myself. But leaf spring suspension and spartan interiors made me not go that way.

When Ecosport was launched I really loved it but cramped 2nd second was a deal breaker for me. So I thought I will continue using my Figo for couple of more years and then switch. But off late my left knee has started troubling me whenever I use my car for more than 20 kms in traffic, diesel clutch are hard. I tried changing the way I was engaging the clutch but didn't help and at that point I knew I have to get a automatic sooner or later.

And then in late Aug heard about the launch of TUV 300 and learnt they will have AMT.
I was actively following this thread and weighing pros and cons specific to me. And this is what I concluded
Pros:
- AMT - loved the fact with flick I can switch to manual
- Spacious, it is 5 + 2 (kids). Didn't really need a 7 seater
- Needed a crossover/SUV cause my use is semi-urban. My old Figo has seen paddy fields, sugarcane fields up close and scrapped underneath umpteen times.
- Amazing low end torque
- My parents will be happier with ingress/egress in SUV than a sedan
- Low NVH
- It is sub-4 meter car, couple of weeks I used friend's Innova without any co-passenger and thought it was too big a car if commuting alone.
- Steering is on heavy side but I would prefer it to electronic assisted one (I drove friend's Rapid for few days) and the steering has good feedback

Cons:
- Low power, but I rarely go over 100kmph. I see myself driving 100+ only on expressway but then I prefer luxury of Shivneri + local Mumbai autos.
- Missing comfort of sedan at same price point. But space, ground clearance, not having to sit down into car outweighed this aspect.
- Hill assist control will be sorely missed in this AMT. I will need to manage somehow with manual mode 1st gear and hand brake.

I visited Kundan motors, the sales rep was helpful and I was able to TD the car on main road as well as parking lot nearby with lots of holes. I decided to book the car immediately but sales rep couldn't give a good answer about tentative delivery date.

After a week or so I went to same dealer with cheque but he said delivery will be in Dec. So I thought of booking the car later and get 2016 make and registered car. Plus my friend insisted that I try his Rapid and take a call whether I really needed a SUV, which made sense.

I tried his car and came with my final decision based on points listed above. And visited the dealer last Tuesday. He guaranteed I will get the car in 2nd week of Jan or last week of Nov ,whatever I prefer. But we will avoid getting a Dec model.

I had even visited Silver Jubilee motors and they also said 3 months waiting for AMT.
So after booking the car I just forgot about it cause I assumed Jan was the earliest practical date.

And I got a call from dealer that they can deliver by Thursday. So now following it up ...

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silverknight, did you consider the Zest AMT as well? Zest is 1 lac lesser than TUV, but then TUV is an SUV and offers the flexibility of additional seats. Just wanted to know.
Cheers
Thanks Karthik !

Not Zest but I did consider Skoda Rapid. But then sedan as category didn't seem to fit my requirements.

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Congratulations AutoIndian and silverknight on your TUV.
Wishing you both peaceful and trouble free ownership experience. The TUV is absolute VFM whichever variant you pick. Pls do share your buying experience and ownership reviews.
Thank you for your wishes Karthik Chandra, desperately need those. We are taking a gamble of going for an altogether new Mahindra car for which even the TBHP official review is not out yet. I assume the TUV has undergone very rigorous testing by Mahindra and they might have sorted out all the issues before the car started to roll out from the production line. In case if there are some still left then I hope the after sales service takes good care of addressing those.

The TUV indeed offers tremendous value proposition. It has the same hydroformed chassis that is used in the new Scorpio (both have the same wheelbase of 2680mm). The top end TUV-T8 is 4.5 lakhs cheaper than the Scorpio-S10 (2WD). The Scorpio offers additional space in the jump seats and has a bigger engine, good top end. However the interiors of the TUV are far better and welcoming than the Scorpio. Obviously the lower excise duty helps TUVs case, but even then Mahindra has left a lot of value on the table and not priced this SUV exorbitantly high like the competition.

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silverknight, did you consider the Zest AMT as well? Zest is 1 lac lesser than TUV, but then TUV is an SUV and offers the flexibility of additional seats. Just wanted to know.
Cheers
I had tested the Zest AMT extensively (around 25kms on bad roads). It holds up well are that too is a real value for money. If your running is primarily going to be in the city (read good roads) and 4 or max 5 people, then the Zest makes a strong case. It has additional features like the projectors, DRLs, Harmon Kardon HUD etc. But then if you want to carry 2-3 extra people occasionally or more luggage or hit remote areas (villages, mountains, no roads), then there is no option but to go for the TUV. This "anywhere go" capability, with a rear wheel drive, robust, rugged built was the deal clincher for me.
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TUV300 emerges out as a 2nd Best selling car in its segment in the month of September 2015 selling over 4300 units, overtaking Ford Ecosport sales of 3142 units but still short of Hyundai Creta, which is truly a segment leader with sales of 7320 units.

Info source: http://www.drivespark.com/four-wheel...ne-012184.html
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Hearty congratulations to Captain Rex, AutoIndian and Silvernight!

Please update the thread regularly, so that it help other members like me who are confused and waiting over the boundary line for a good feedback before putting their money on this vehicle, thanks.
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Dear Moderators, we are into the second month after the launch of TUV3OO (If I am not wrong it was launched on 10th Sep 2015). We are yet to see the official TBHP review, neither we have any indication when it can see the light of the day. In normal circumstances I would have waited for the official review, gone through each and every line and only then booked the car. But since I am car-less and I liked the TUV3OO after the three test drives that I took along with family, I have gone ahead and taken the risk to book it.

Though I am satisfied with the NVH levels of its 3 potter heart, I have been hearing that the NVH issues are not completely sorted out. Hence it becomes all the more important for me to go through the review before making the balance payment (already locked Rs 25K as the booking amount).

At least give us an indication when the official review of TUV3OO will be published.
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