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Old 14th November 2014, 16:39   #31
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Cabbies have better standards than the common man. They need highly reliable spacious vehicles that can withstand any abuse, since they have no idea where the person who hires them would ask them to go. Most of the cabs I've seen are actually good, spacious and comfortable cars, though it may not be giving the best driving experience and features.

Innova, Indigo/Indica, Verito, Dzire Tour, Etios are all much better products compared to the Go+. I seriously doubt if they would be able to sell this contraption to cabbies either.

I remember a few M800 CNG operating in Hyderabad a few years back but soon, they stopped 800s and changed to Indica.
Among the cars you mentioned, apart from Innova rest of the cars are just 5 seaters.
Why do you think they held on to the Qualis for so long ?

7 Seats coupled with the frugal economy of Datsun go+ (It has the same engine as the logan ) I wonder why they will not want to earn better per km ?
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7 Seats coupled with the frugal economy of Datsun go+ (It has the same engine as the logan ) I wonder why they will not want to earn better per km ?
Same engine as the Logan - did you mean the Renault K9K 1.5 dCi? I don't believe Nissan/Datsun have plans of launching a diesel Go+.

I agree that the K9K would be the most likely diesel engine to power the Go+, but I don't think they're going to plonk it in, at least in the foreseeable future.

The 7-seater thing is a joke as far as the Go+ is concerned. Even a twelve-year old would be very uncomfortable sitting (or more accurately, squatting) on that shocking apology of last row "seats", let alone two adults.

Yeah, I had predicted earlier that the Go+ might turn out to be a sales success, but I have taken it back since. In the absence of credible, provable safety improvements by Datsun, I don't think this car (or its sibling) deserves to succeed at all.

One can label me a Datsun basher*, but I firmly believe the Go & Go+ (in their current state) turning out to be miserable sales flops would do Indian car buyers and the country a whole load of good in the long run. In fact, the same applies to every other market these cars may be planned for.

* - I was actually was more of a Datsun fan earlier and wanted them to succeed, since I really appreciated Carlos Ghosn's idea of making very affordable, no-nonsense cars for emerging markets. I was quite nave in thinking the proven masters of designing & building such cars (Dacia is a shining example) at Renault-Nissan wouldn't compromise to this extent - basically I expected the Datsun Go to be a Micra Active wearing a different badge. It looks like I was expecting too much.

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I don't think they can plonk in a the 1.5 diesel even it they want to- just because the small car Go platform does not have the engine bay for it. Remember reading it somewhere but don't have the link.

Should be right. It's a sub 4m car even after adding 3 rows of seats. How much space can be had in the engine bay!
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Among the cars you mentioned, apart from Innova rest of the cars are just 5 seaters.
Why do you think they held on to the Qualis for so long ?

7 Seats coupled with the frugal economy of Datsun go+ (It has the same engine as the logan ) I wonder why they will not want to earn better per km ?
Qualis is reliable and spacious. From a customer's perspective, it doesn't matter how much the running cost of the cab he hires would come to. He is only interested in how spacious and comfortable the cab is.

We are looking at the possibility of a frugal car with 7 seats doing excellent profits for the operator. However, it wouldn't work that way in real world.

Being a sub 4-m car with 3 rows, it is most likely going to be much more cramped at least on the 3rd row when compared to a proper MPV. So, no one would pay the same rate as Innova and travel in this car, if they really need to use 3 rows. Another point is the non-existent boot space. The customer will simply ignore the operator and go with someone else who can provide him a better car. We as consumers have enough choices when it comes to cab operators so that we can avoid an operator whom we are not satisfied with.

This means the cab operator cannot make huge profits from this car and would be forced to offer these at a much lower rate when compared to Innova, probably at the sedan rates. In such a situation, he is not going to earn too much profit, but can still be offering it as an alternate to 5 seaters with boot. Then it would be compared with the sedans and the comfort of a sedan is something GO+ is unlikely to match. Yes, there might be a few takers for this option. However, in the overall scheme of things, it would be difficult to maintain a huge fleet of these cars and be profitable. Operators might have 4-5 of these included in their fleet probably but I don't see it becoming a runaway success or replacing the existing options.
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This car will come and 'GO' without a whimper. The interiors are so cheap that no personal car buyer will put down 6 lakh arounds on this. NEVER. Look at that handbrake handle. Sheesh. This if launched with a Diesel, will only garner commercial buyers in limited numbers and that will further deteriorate the reputation of the brand. Sorry Datsun, cheap cars in India too have to be classy in some ways.

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It would be tough for the Go+ to capture numbers in view of the recent failure of Go in the NCAP tests. Perhaps in the rural man mover market things could be different provided prices are favorably lower.
Take a look of the interiors
source Datsun Indonesia Link http://www.datsun.co.id/id-ID/models/go-plus.aspx
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So, ACI have posted their review of the Go+
http://www.autocarindia.com/auto-rev...-391987,0.aspx

I expect it to be an even bigger flop than the GO( if that is a possibility)

This aspect of the car shocked me.
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The third row, however, is just not useable as getting in is the first hurdle. Only the backrest of the second row folds down; you have to clamber over the seat to get in, and once there, you'll find you have absolutely no space. The seat is placed on the floor, there is no space for your feet and headroom is non existent. Even children will be severely cramped here.
Why are they offering it with a third row when it is practically impossible for someone to even reach it?
IMO, this car should not be allowed in the market.
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Look were the last row occupants heads will be.
Given the placement of rear seats , they should offer a helmet or make helmets mandatory for the last row occupants.
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Datsun Go+ seen undergoing trials in India.
The petrol motor might get a bump in power and torque figures to pull this 7 seaters MPV and diesel mill will be Renault Nissan group’s tried and tested 1.5 liter oil burner.
Hope the MPV will have a stronger Shell and with more safety variants when debuting in 2015.

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http://www.autocolumn.com/2014/12/datsun-go-plus/
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Datsun Go+ seen undergoing trials in India.
The petrol motor might get a bump in power and torque figures to pull this 7 seaters MPV and diesel mill will be Renault Nissan group’s tried and tested 1.5 liter oil burner.
Hope the MPV will have a stronger Shell and with more safety variants when debuting in 2015.

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http://www.autocolumn.com/2014/12/datsun-go-plus/
The Go+ is a petrol-only model. Datsun will not even launch a LPG/CNG powered model until it feels that enough volumes will accrue. Secondly, the diesel motor has not been in the scheme of things right from the design stage of the Datsun cars for India. Contrary to earlier reports, the cars (Go & Go+) do not use the V Platform as it is, but use a low cost platform specifically designed with value engineering in mind. No differences in the shell of the Go & Go+ as far as safety is concerned. No ABS/Airbags even as an option. No plans to offer these features until customers demand it/Bharat New Vehicle Safety Assessment Program (BNVSAP) kicks into force.

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Oh man! Just see the size of that rear wheel compared to the dimensions towards the rear. Ugly would be an understatement.

And yes- no diesel mill for sure. The Go platform can't accommodate the Renault 1.5 mill as the company has clearly stated earlier in a press release.
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We have seen thin seats on many cars now. But is this the thinnest of 'em all?!

They look absolutely wafer thin!
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This car has any chance of survival with a Diesel Mill ONLY and ONLY in the commercial segment. For this to work in the commercial segment too, it needs to be priced at tops 6.5 lakhs on road. Neither has the interiors nor interior space nor the 3rd row space to seat 7 people. They should have got the Datsun Go based sedan instead as without a usable 3rd row, what's the point of it anyway, people in India rather have a 'Sedan' also called as a 'Big car' than this contraption what they call a station wagon.

With the right interiors, safety features and a little spruced up exteriors not to mention the K9K in say 85 bhp form and a price tag of 7 lakhs on road for the top version, the sedan has MUCH MUCH MUCH more higher chances of selling and creating a brand name as well as market for Datsun.

With the NCAP fiasco and now launching this, the brand name is going for a toss. Like Tata's had made a mistake with the word 'cheap' for the NANO and forever ruined the higher sales expectation of their car, DATSUN is doing the same in practicality by launching such things.

When Indian's want sasta, they run to ONLY Maruti, give them different and they'll come to you.
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Datsun will launch the GO+ MPV in India on January 15, 2015.

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Datsun has announced that pre-bookings for its upcoming GO+ MPV will commence on January 3, 2015. Interested customers can book the vehicle at any Nissan dealership across the country for a refundable amount of Rs. 11,000. The last date for accepting pre-bookings will be January 14, one day before the launch of the vehicle.

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