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Old 7th June 2014, 18:18   #31
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Let's not bring BJP into this.

In Bangalore at least amount of bribing has come down drastically because of introducing digital cameras to capture offenses,
blackberry's to record offender details and an instant receipt.

Similar things can work.

I have visited rto in blr recent times and things are quite professional, and no obvious requirement of an agent etc.
Of all the RTOs I dealt with, I found Chennai the most professional, even the agents are regulated & work gets done directly too. But yes, experiences may vary.

On Bangalore:
http://indiatransportportal.com/2012...n-indian-rtos/
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Old 7th June 2014, 18:43   #32
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In today's Times of India, there is an article which states the government is planning on monitoring car fire probes. They are going to prepare a roadmap for time bound investigations of these accidents.

It took it's time but i guess things are now going in the right direction as far as road safety is concerned
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Welcome move by the Road Transport Minister.
Please impose strict safety rules for the manufacturers also.
They should make airbags compulsory for all passenger vehicles.

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The points to be in sync with six advanced nations USA, Canada, Singapore, Japan, Germany and the UK
Good to know this. Please bring the fuel prices also in sync with USA (note to the oil minister)
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I am glad. This is absolutely necessary.
The Motor vehicles act is sadly in need of a complete revamp.
All fines are in need of a complete revamp.

For example in the Metro cities where maximum violations occur they should create huge fines - like the below:
1. Breaking Signals - Rs 2500
2. Lane Cutting without Indication - Rs 2000
3. Driving on the wrong side of the road - Rs 5000
4. Lane Indiscipline - Rs 2000
5. Over Speeding - Rs 2500 (Speed limits should certainly be re-examined and Speeding Tolerance should be increased to 10kmph above the limit)
6. Drunk Driving - Increase the fine to 5000 + DL Suspension

About time they passed a resolution and legislation about all these laws of India being periodically reviewed and re drafted. The law is a living thing and has to be dynamic.

Too long have we been humane and kind. Now is the time for some hard action.

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One simple and effective method to curb corruption in Police as well as RTO level is to introduce monthly targets for policemen and review the permits and licences issued by officers. For the first part, as far as Bangalore is concerned, corruption reduced greatly. As soon as any guy is pulled over the cop takes out his blackberry. Since offences registered against a vehicle arent cancellable in the online database, they have to pay up to clear them. No bribe will help. Only organised bribing still remains in the form of commercial vehicles getting away with daily haftas or so. Hence, if this system is advanced to the next level by introducing monthly targets policemen will become more active rather than sitting under a tree and waiting for people to drive into them so that they just have to wave them down.

Recently I saw two policemen on the bike, one was riding and the other snapping pictures of offenders. That was really needed The target can be changed every month seeing the previous months average collection by each cop. This will avoid setting over optimistic targets or very less targets.
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It is not enough to just revise the Law.
There needs to be a proper implementation.
In India, the cheapest resource is manpower.
According to wikipedia, there is 4km of roads per 1000 people. This is among the lowest road density in the world. The total road network is 4,689,842 kilometres (2,914,133 mi) in 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Road_Network
According to NHAI, the road network is 33 lakh KM.
http://www.nhai.org/roadnetwork.htm
We should have some form of monitoring over the whole length. A lot of evidence is faked and destroyed in India. I've seen a body being shifted from one side of a dual carriageway to the other by locals with cops looking on. On inquiring, was told that insurance will not pay if he was riding on the wrong side. Let his wife and kids get some money at least. My driver once hit a two-wheeler rider who was riding on the wrong side of the bridge. While I was treating him, he admitted that it was his fault. Even the cops agreed. but when charge-sheeted, mysteriously he was riding on the right side.
Every day in Chennai, I see cops egging people to drive on the wrong side to clear signals faster.
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Minor traffic offences like riding on the pavement, overloading, stopping in the middle of the road to load/unload passengers, driving wrong side as a shortcut, etc. happen everyday, but when disaster strikes, it becomes a big issue. Unfortunately out of respect for the injured/ dead, the blame is always put on the opposite party.
With country wide big brother like monitoring, we can record evidence which will give us accurate statistics and also punish the wrong doers instead of the bigger/ richer party.
Humanity and empathy have a role, but remember that law is blind.


@audioholic: Targets for law breaking is a very bad idea. Extreme example - how many rapes/ murders/ terrorist activities should be there in a month? Bangalore was hell for out station vehicles towards the end of the last financial year because of the target they had to achieve.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...eb-2014-a.html

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Any plans for scrapping the stupid law that requires you to put that yellow sticker on your right headlamp? AFAIK Gujarat was the only state which strictly implemented this.
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Any plans for scrapping the stupid law that requires you to put that yellow sticker on your right headlamp? AFAIK Gujarat was the only state which strictly implemented this.
I remember that.. we had it on our Premier Padmini in Baroda. Hilarious. Could never figure what that was about. Didnt think it was still a rule?
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A strict law that always crops up in my mind that should be a part of the new rule system: Helmets should be made compulsory for both biker and pillion everywhere,no matter the distance and if an accident takes place and the biker is not wearing a helmet at the time of the accident then complete blame goes on to the biker no matter whose fault it is(even if its a car/truck). And the insurance company of the biker will pay for any and every damage of all the parties.
How does this sound?

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Well, police reforms - traffic police, are what are needed most.
Next would be these laws. I too, like many others am sick of the sunfilm rule.
There has to be a solution, blanket ban is not the solution.

Would love to hear what Mr. Gadkari thinks about that.
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A strict law that always crops up in my mind that should be a part of the new rule system: Helmets should be made compulsory for both biker and pillion everywhere,no matter the distance and if an accident takes place and the biker is not wearing a helmet at the time of the accident then complete blame goes on to the biker no matter whose fault it is(even if its a car/truck). And the insurance company of the biker will pay for any and every damage of all the parties.
How does this sound?
First of all this CHALTHA HAI attitude of Indians must change. The same guy when he travels abroad, follows the road rules while back in his home country is hell bent on violating the rules.
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Let's see if the new minister actually goes beyond increasing the fines and drafts some policy on granting of licenses, vehicle certification norms etc. Else it's only superficial. More like the fines adjusted for inflation of the last and next few years.
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Absolute priority to pedestrians, cyclists and bus-users!

How does one ensure that through laws, fines, er...hangings and castrations? ;-)

It is about basic, expensive municipal infrastructure NOT laws.

Remember how the car-owning readers of the Times of India and the BJP murdered the BRT project in Delhi? There is a successful BRT in Ahemedabad, under Modi, it should be taken as a model via the JNNURM for ALL bigger cities. That will do a million times the good that enhanced fines and reformed laws promise.

But who'll pay? where's the money? And who will bring the lakhs of arrogant 4-wheeler drivers and owners of each of our cities to heel (no offense meant to present company!;-) )?

Much better to just 'reform' the law for the TV cameras, look like 'doers', and back to same 'chalta hai' reality the next day!
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Please, please do something about the tractor trailer laws. There are no lights, no scope for wiring to fit it and the garages which build them, can't even add reflective tapes to warn other motorist.

Its your plain luck to watch out for them concealed (abandoned as they break down often) in heavy rain, fog.
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Fines for jumping a signal can be increased but at the same time, they should split jumping a red light and stopping marginally ahead of the stop line. Currently, both of these are treated as the same offense with the stop line not being properly visible at most junctions. If they increase the fines for these offenses, they should also provide provisions in the law to ensure that the civic bodies maintain the roads to have proper markings and the signals are properly visible and not ambiguous.
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