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Old 7th July 2014, 13:55   #16
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If they implement this seriously then not a single taxi, auto-rikshaw, truck & bus in India will pass the test. We will also have taxi/auto & transport unions going on strike citing increase in cost of their services & transportation cost which will ultimately fuel inflation. Until political parties don't get out of union business or handle it maturely, nothing will change. I hope they will conduct this test seriously on state transport buses as well specially since these buses carry the most number of people
All commercial vehicles have to undergo mandatory fitness testing every year already. So all the taxis, autorickshaws, trucks and buses get checked at the RTO every year (Except for new vehicles where the fitness certificate is valid for the first two year, then checking is done annually).

Even with all the annual checks, you know what is their condition.
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All commercial vehicles have to undergo mandatory fitness testing every year already. So all the taxis, autorickshaws, trucks and buses get checked at the RTO every year
That is why I said if they conduct these 'new' tests with seriousness
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99.99999 per cent accidents happen in India because of drivers' carelessness or pig-headedness/arrogance or just plain stupidity. And nearly same per cent of accidents happen on brand new to 2/3 year old car. You will hardly come across a 10-15 years old car involved in a crash. So, in other words, it is not the car that needs fixing. It is the driver, in our country.
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This is surely a good thing to start with theoritically, but would certainly not solve the road accident cases, as the department/ govt. thinks. Practically this would surely mean another way of earning for the corrupt employees at the RTO and is sure to fail. I don't think the govt. has the required infrastucture (system and manpower) to carry out such inspection with the motive of improving the situation.

I purchased my car on 26/7/2012 and the registration was done on 22/8/2012, again I purchased an Aviator on 20/12/2013 and the registration was done on 18/02/2014. This is the sort of backlog in the RTO for the normal and routine registration jobs in the state of Chhattisgarh.
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I believe the only way to improve public roads is raising fine amount by may be 50times . The traffic cops must not be allowed to stop offending vehicles rather a picture/video link should be provided with the challan which must be sent to the registered address . This takes away the blackmailing by cops and second corruption . If this is implemented the public will automatically make sure they follow law in terms of vehicle lights working , no modifications , traffic rules , lane driving , speed limits etc .

I look forward to a day wherein a chalan for jumping redlight be 50000/- INR for Maruti 800 guy and 5,00,000/- for affluent owners .This amount /challan must be sent to vehicle owner directly with no interaction happening between police and driver at time of offence. I am sure if this happens soon people will themselves make sure to follow law.
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Behold, here is a scheme planned to increase corruption by leaps and bounds in the country (as if it was not already bad enough) and to push India even higher in the list of most corrupt countries in the world.

We already have yearly "fitness tests" for all commercial vehicles, and everyone knows how it works. Pay a few thousand rupees under the desk and take the vehicle (even if the head lamps, tail lamps etc. are not working) on the designated day to the RTO and obtain your "fitness certificate" without any qualms or hassles. They are now seeking to extend this utter farce to private vehicles too.

I can already see the existing RTO fellows and the planned RTO 2.0 fellows (the so-called public-private profiteers) rubbing their dirty paws in glee and booking flights to Switzerland, Cayman Islands, Mauritius etc. to open secret bank accounts. What democracy is this if only the ministers, elected "representatives", top police officers and bureaucrats have secret bank accounts overseas? Why deny the motor vehicle inspector and desk clerk at the local RTO the same "right"? A clerk at the RTO deserves the same "right" to ill-gotten wealth and the same "opportunity" to make dirty money as a minister, right? That would be "democratic" indeed.

Shameful! Disgusting! Horrendous! The best way to describe this planned scheme in one word is EVIL. Yes, evil is the right word.

The new government and the man at the helm must not forget that they got an overwhelming mandate only because of the intolerable levels of corruption, inflation, red-tape, ever rising taxes etc. that were stifling economic prospects for the country and were tightening the noose around the neck of the common man/woman and making life simply unbearable for him/her. "Minimum government, maximum governance" was the promise that people believed in. This should not be forgotten.

I'm sorry if I sound alarmist and harsh. But I can see where is would naturally lead to. This vile scheme must be destroyed right in the planning stage itself!
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This really is a good move by the govt if implemented in the right way. This not only creates jobs for many, but also vice versa if it is strictly followed /inspected. A proper action plan needs to be in place for checking vehicles as per the manufacturing year if at all the RTO's have the records. Notices need to be sent to all vehicle owners which are 15 + years old to have them re registered or disposed with certain waiver.

Mods can come out with an action plan & start a pledge /voting poll here & the same can be spread over social networking sites to awaken others & take this all the way up to the govt for appropriate action.
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Really bad idea that will only increase the illegitimate power of traffic policemen, agents, brokers, touts & corrupt RTO officials.

Govt should first focus on fixing the basic system to make things easier & reduce options for corrupt than implement such 'mai baap' type of governance.

Nandan Nilenkani had proposed to MORTH that the Aadhaar card type technology but used with smartcards & RFID on vehicles should be implemented for vehicles in India... this Govt should go ahead with that.

So much for 'minimum govt, maximum governance'...

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The traffic cops must not be allowed to stop offending vehicles rather a picture/video link should be provided with the challan which must be sent to the registered address
Problem is many cars are registered on ficticious addresses to take tax advantage so something like this will only make owner's happy! An alternative way would be to have yearly payment of road tax. Those who don't pay the penalty will have to pay it at the time of renewal of their licence / number plates. This is the system abroad and should be brought here. We can have RTO offices in mall's, commercial buildings, railway stations, parking lots, toll plaza's to distribute the rush. Abroad, yearly renewal's are due in the birth month of the car owner. We can follow this system here.

Instead of importing the penalty & fine system from abroad, why can't we import their simple & practical measures to make things simple & easy?

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99.99999 per cent accidents happen in India because of drivers' carelessness or pig-headedness/arrogance or just plain stupidity. And nearly same per cent of accidents happen on brand new to 2/3 year old car. You will hardly come across a 10-15 years old car involved in a crash. So, in other words, it is not the car that needs fixing. It is the driver, in our country.
Yes I agree that majority of accidents happen due to carelessness, but there are good number cases where the accident happens due to poor maintenance of the vehicles. One good example is driving with bald tyres, majority of vehicles with yellow board drive with bald ones! They should have recommendations to change the tyres after a certain period of time too. when I bought my pre-worshipped car the tyres looked like the are in good condition, but they were 8 years old

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All commercial vehicles have to undergo mandatory fitness testing every year already. So all the taxis, autorickshaws, trucks and buses get checked at the RTO every year (Except for new vehicles where the fitness certificate is valid for the first two year, then checking is done annually).

Even with all the annual checks, you know what is their condition.
Didn't know that they had to check every single year! If this is the case then there is no hope for the new law.

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UK has had an MoT for ages. Three years, and then once a year from approved agencies/garages.
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The traffic cops must not be allowed to stop offending vehicles rather a picture/video link should be provided with the challan which must be sent to the registered address. This takes away the blackmailing by cops and second corruption.
In a country that strives to find the most economical way out of any situation, an errant driver might choose to pay the cops a fraction of the fine amount to make the tape magically disappear. If it's never reported, you will never get challan'd.

Traffic cams on poles controlled from a central location, which has no direct contact with the rule breaking vehicle's owner will have a better chance of instilling discipline. They send an inland letter with a URL where you can see the photo of your vehicle violating a rule, and you can pay the fine at any Bangalore One.

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Really bad idea that will only increase the illegitimate power of traffic policemen, agents, brokers, touts & corrupt RTO officials.
Agreed. It is already clear that most of this certification happens in their office, without even looking at the commercial vehicle in question. This just increases their "customer base." A corrupt officer can make a quick buck from any vehicle if this comes into force.

We don't need more rules to increase road safety. What we need is stricter implementation of the existing rules.
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This is not a good idea as we don’t have the necessary infrastructure to support such a scheme of checking vehicle health on an annual basis. If such thing is mandated then it will be a very unpopular move as it is going to be a big pain to certify vehicles for normal citizens. I believe most of the privately owned vehicles are well taken care due to a sense of belongingness. Most of the government vehicles and private cabs who run locally are the real culprits, generally long distance transport vehicles are maintained well due to financial impact of breakdown on highways.

I believe the PUC centers should be connected to centralized data base and which will capture the vehicle VIN , registration number and the emission/health results on a real time basis. Frequent audits of the PUC’s to maintain quality of equipment will deter the malpractices and equipment tampering.

Maintaining an online database will itself be a major mindset change and deterrent for faking vehicle health reports. I understand that infrastructure will concern but we can leverage mobile internet technology for covering large /remote parts of this country.

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There goes another asinine law. Like always, it will be personal car owners who will be stopped and harassed at every intersection. While the RTC buses, rickety Govt. vehicles, beat-up quarry trucks, battered cabs and rusty auto-rickshaws will continue to belch tons of black smoke and soot in your face with impunity without a thing happening to them. Grrreat! Why doesn't our Govt. leave us alone and let things be where they are rather than taking them to new lows?
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